Thursday, March 13, 2014

The FIRST evangelist was a WOMAN

The structure of this Bible study is a little different.  It represents a participatory process and a dialogue between Soumini and Corinne.  The passage in John chapter 4 is a dialogue between Jesus and the Samaritan woman, and we continue in a dialogic mode in our interpretation of this narrative, which has several layers of meaning.  Soumini has prepared the basic interpretation of the text, and Corinne looks into the context and several other poss­ible interpreta­tions of the Samaritan woman herself, and of symbols in the text.  Encourage members to participate in the dialogue, as it relates to their contemporary context.

 Significance of the Passage:

    The traditional reading of the narrative, which puts empha­sis on the Samaritan woman as a "sinful woman," perhaps a prosti­tute, or at least a sexually loose woman, distracts us from seeing several of its significant features:
      1) this is the longest dia­logue which Jesus has with anyone in all four gospels;
    2) Jesus reveals himself as Messiah for the first time to this woman;
    3) here Jesus crosses boundaries and breaks barriers of  race/ caste, culture/ ethnicity, religion/ faith, and challenges gender stereotypes.
     4) the Samaritan woman herself emerges as a real person.



  1. +Sonja Grinstead
    Hi Sonja, The FIRST evangelist was a WOMAN

    That's not true, Tony: sisters in JESUS are allowed to preach to the lost, sisters in JESUS and children.

    Hans Steijnhagen

    +TONY COSTANZO The FIRST evangelist was a WOMAN

    JESUS be with us!

  3. +kbsmb Great! And then you know that JESUS allows you to preach to UNBELIEVERS, CHILDREN and FELLOW FEMALE BELIEVERS, but not to a congregation of mixed (male/female) believers.

  4. +chondram WHAT NONSENSE! This 'teaching' is NOT excellent but STUPID and DUMB!
    WoMEN are absolutely FREE to proclaim the gospel to unbelievers, children and fellow feMALE believers, but NOT to a congregation of mixed female and male believers.
    Because God says so and JESUS is God!

  5. +John S
    OMG, you reallly have a twisted mind....
    You think from the FLESH!

    Sons of God, says NOTHING about gender!
    Only about the gender of the WORD Son.
    A female Saint will retain her sexual identity, but she will not be called a 'daughter of God', but a Son of God.
    All angels are called Sons of God, meaning that they are subordinate to God and His servants.
    They are each others servants too.

    You could serve me by stopping to be someone who knows things better.

    Now try to imagine the following: suppose a substantial number of MUSLIMS hear the gospel and convert into being followers of JESUS.
    And I mean both male and female ex-Muslims.

    Suppose they manage to escape this DEATH-CULT (Of Roman Catholic origin, because the Vatican created Islam) and suppose they gather together on a regular basis.

    They read their Bibles and they are being instructed from it and by the indwelling Holy Spirit (=JESUS in spiritual capacity) and they learn to organize their gatherings.

    Male believers, who are gifted with the ability to preach and who are living their lives as a good example to others and who have learned from JESUS personally how to SERVE, start leading this assembly, and they are being assisted by their wives, who give them good advice, if needed, when they are at home, or outside of the context of the congregation.

    All goes well until a female believer addresses the congregation, telling them she also has the right to preach and teach, according to YOUR way of thinking.

    These ex-MUSLIMS look at her and think "in the time we were still Muslims we would have KILLED her!'

    But they have become followers of JESUS and so one of them says: "Dear Sister in our Lord JESUS Christ, WHO has given you the right to be a preacher and teacher before this assembly of God? NO ONE, but the DEVIL!" "Now will you please be SILENT and SERVE God-the Lord JESUS during this service, and listen to what the Holy Spirit has to say!"

    11 A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. 12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15 But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.
    1 Timothy 2:11

    The woman starts to become HYSTERICAL and she shouts: "I'm EQUAL to men, so you can't deny me the right to preach and teach in front of a congregation!"

    The male believers tell her: "listen; in the old days we would have STONED you to DEATH! But now we follow our Lord and Saviour JESUS and we ask you AGAIN to be SILENT or LEAVE this Holy gathering".

  6. She refuses to listen and starts YELLING that NO MAN has the right to silence her.

    Then some STRONG BROTHERS approach her and tell her to be silent or leave.
    She feels a bit intimidated, but she continues to shout that she has the right to preach and teach.
    Then the brothers grab her and and without hurting her they remove her body outside of the congregation, leaving one brother behind to make sure she will not enter again and disrupt the service.

    The MALE elders start to pray for her and they ask the whole congregation to join them in prayer, and they ask the Father in JESUS' name to make her clear she was being lead by the DEVIL and NOT by the Holy Spirit, and they address her HUSBAND that he must see to it that this will NEVER happen again, or he will also be confronted with what God says about HIS order within the assemblies of God.

    You see?

    It doesn't WORK when there are REAL MEN and not a bunch of homosexuals who have become 'sissies'.

    Why do you think God-the Lord JESUS made a male lion much stronger and heavier than a lioness?

    In order to accept a lioness as the leader of the pack?

    Among HYENA'S the FEMALES are in charge, and lions HATE hyena's and whenever they get the chance they KILL them!

    Whenever hyena's get the chance to isolate a (weak) lion, they will kill him or her too!

    This is a FALLEN world and God has made the RULES in order to teach His adversary a lesson, and all the other fallen angels too, and He shows His good and obedient angels WHY this is necessary.

    God is a God of ORDER.

    Satan always tries to change things into a state of DISORDER!

    You are on Satan's side on this issue, and I ask you to REPENT.

    You'll get NO CHANCE within a congregation of REAL MEN to start a rebellion!!

    They will cast you OUT, together with your supporters of female wannabe preachers and teachers.

    Let them proclaim the gospel to UNBELIEVERS, CHILDREN and fellow female believers, and any female believer who thinks this is a 'low job' must become ASHAMED because this is a VERY important assignment and I know that there are more female evangelists than male evangelists, which is a GOOD thing!

    The first evangelist was a WOMAN:

    I hope I've made myself clear in English, because I'm Dutch.

    May JESUS show you that I'm right regarding this issue.

  7. +John S
    Your 'jesus' says: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Is he drunk or stoned or crazy?

    We do not agree on this, that's clear.

    All people are meant to be like the angels, and angels are all SONS of God, or morning stars.
    One special morning star became God's adversary=Satan.
    Female Saints will be like the angels and become Sons of God, just like the male Saints.
    They retain their unique bodily identity, which is part of everyone's personality.
    But there won't be female Saints in heaven with paint (make up) on their faces, or with all kinds of jewelry, earrings etc, or with dyed hair and other fake attributes, and the same goes for (certain kinds of) men.

    But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
    1 Corinthians 11:3 KJV

    It says EVERY MAN and NOT 'MAN'(kind).

    But you know something?

    I don't believe you're a man, but a woman with a fake identity.
    Or you're a transgender or someone with Klinefelter syndrome.

    You don't come across as a REAL man.

    'Lord JESUS have mercy!"

  8. +John S

    Why is it so hard for you to understand that woMEN are a different kind of MEN?

    All people are meant to be like the angels and angels are SONS of God!

    There is no sexuality anymore in heaven and on the New Earth.

    But if I meet my wife as a SON of God, SHE will still look like I know her here on earth, but she won't be my wife anymore, but a fellow SON of God and she and I will be MUCH more beautiful, and everyone else too.

    I love woMEN as if I had created them myself.

    They're all a bit crazy, but that's what I like about them, but sometimes they're driving me NUTS.

    Men too!

    People in general!




  9. +John S DO YOU LOVE JESUS CHRIST???????????????????

    And if yes, JESUS wants you to love ME!
    Hans S
    8:09 PM

    +John S
    I never said that women will turn into men in heaven.

    I say that BOTH MALE and feMALE Saints will be called SONS of God.

    There are no 'daughters of God'.

  10. +John S
    So you love JESUS!
    That's GREAT!

    That's what it's all about!
    My PERSONAL teacher is JESUS through the Holy Spirit=JESUS in spiritual capacity, but thanks for TRYing to teach me something from YOUR perspective.

    My answer is: yes, I understand 1 Tim 2:12 and especially in my own language Dutch.

    Again: because the first TRANSGRESSOR was EVE and because she is a WOMAN, female believers in JESUS Christ have no assignment, nor the right to preach to a congregation of male and female believers.

    Female believers in JESUS have EVERY right to preach to unbelievers, children and fellow female believers.

    If female believers want to preach and teach, they can write BOOKS!

    The whole point is that 70% of human language is BODY TALK, and God gave women A LOT OF BODY TALK.

    So also from this perspective it's not a good idea to allow female preachers.

    When a man looks at a pretty female preacher, he's NOT interested in what she says, unless he's BLIND!

    HA ha!

  11. +John S 16 To the woman he said, “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth. In pain you will bring forth children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”
    16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

    Genesis 3:16

    This is my answer.

    "so you're in error for not being taught to interpret the scriptures"

    Good for you!

    Definitions of transgression
    an act that goes against a law, rule, or code of conduct; an offense.
    I'll be keeping an eye out for further transgressions
    synonyms: offense, crime, sin, wrong, wrongdoing, misdemeanor, impropriety, infraction, misdeed, lawbreaking, error, lapse, peccadillo, fault, trespass; infringement, breach, contravention, violation, defiance, disobedience, nonobservance

    A transgression is a CRIME!

    Eve was the first CRIMINAL, and Satan was laughing.

    Did you know that Adam and Eve NEVER had sex before the Fall?

    And do you know why?

    Because they were much 'too' happy!

    They had better things to do than something ANIMAL like sex.

    I mean, think of it: why should someone insert his body part into someone else's body, and why should someone want to have someone else's body part inserted into her body?

    And I'm talking about the penis and the vagina.

    Just ask children who aren't yet sexually awakened, and they will agree.

    Or they will look at you and they'll think you've become insane.

    Before the Fall, Adam and Eve were like super intelligent CHILDREN with adult bodies.

    So in this sense the Fall was functional, because without it we wouldn't exist, because only AFTER the Fall Adam and Eve had a MOTIVE to procreate, because having sex is a remembrance to nakedness and Paradise, and then they discovered sex for the first time.

    But the problem with sex is that it's making the FLESH PROUD, because it's so very attractive.

    There wouldn't be a BILLION dollar porn industry if I wasn't speaking the truth.

    This industry wouldn't exist without all the women that work for it.

    Of course it's being run by criminal men, but all those women have the ability to say NO!

    JESUS was a NORMAL man, but without sin and He NEVER had sex with anyone and not even with Himself through masturbation.

    That says something about sex, doesn't it?

    'Sex is a DEVIL', but most people just LOVE it!

    Because women are created with sensual body characteristics, they aren't suited to lead a congregation of male and female believers.

    Unless they grow a beard and a mustache, and speak with a LOWER voice, and are dressed like men....HA HA!

    JESUS took full responsibility for His OWN creation, while He was murdered by His OWN inventions.

    Evil is within the FLESH.

    DEAD people don't do anything good, but they also don't do anything bad.

    Satan has no power when people are DEAD, and I mean dead toward SIN.

    JESUS was 100% DEAD with regard to SIN.

    Yet, He was/is by no means a boring person!

    He also created all kinds of CRAZY animals!

    They're funny because they act so very silly.

    But there's also MUCH WISDOM to be found withing 'the animal kingdom'.

    What Does The Bible Say About Animals? A Christian Study

    Read more:

  12. +John S
    This WHOLE existence is about SEX-PROCREATION!
    It's God's answer to DEATH!

    The CORE of every human being is his/her BRAIN, but God=JESUS gave us BODIES which can PROCREATE.
    Brains don't procreate.
    So there are male and female bodies, and also among plants there are female and male entities.
    A flower is a sexual organ of a plant.
    Since women have been created with more sexually tantalizing external characteristics than men (toward men) it's NOT WISE to have females as preachers, but apart from that it's not what God wants.
    But will women ever listen?
    The first woman didn't listen, so I have no illusion that women will ever least in THIS dimension.
    But the same goes for MEN.

    All people are sweet when they're asleep.

    "She shall be saved in childbearing.....doesn't this sound like its relating to Genises3:16 as well?"

    It's Genesis, but oh well...

    Women who can't have children (for whatever reason) and who have surrendered to JESUS, will be saved.

    Again: we are meant to be like the angels!

    Are you a man?

    Your Google+ page says you're male:

    I'm not so sure about that....

  13. +John S
    I never said that Eve seduced Adam.
    Her crime was in the ACT:

    6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Genesis 3

    Adam's crime was that he accepted the fruit from Eve and ate from it.

    "At a job, a woman can be a manager, so what? She is seducing her employees as being the head of the working place? Not at all. Same for preachers, I dont lust after female preachers."

    Why should a woman be a manager over men?
    And why should a woman want to be in a position of authority over men?

    Because Satan knows that he can thereby disrupt God's order!

    When God chooses a people as His chosen people, Satan tries everything in his power to destroy this plan.

    When God says that women may preach to children, unbelievers and fellow female believers, but not to a congregation of male and female believers, Satan will find women who are willing to disrupt God's ORDER.

    The first women most men see are their mothers.

    The problem with mothers is, that if they are adherents of false religions, they are also the first to teach their children these false religions.

    Satan knows this very well!

    On the other hand: when God fearing women have children, and when they are normally married to a husband, they will teach their children from the word of God, in close cooperation with their God given husbands.

    Every God fearing man is called to be the head of the family and to be an example to their wives and their children.

    The head of every God fearing family man is JESUS Christ.

    Women can never be fathers and men can never be mothers.

    God is BOTH: a FATHER and a MOTHER*, but the Father comes first, because JESUS says; 'I and the Father are one', and HE (not she) is GOD!

    *11 As an eagle stirreth up HER nest, fluttereth over HER young, spreadeth abroad HER wings, taketh them, beareth them on HER wings: 12 So the LORD alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.
    Deuteronomy 32 KJV

    No real male follower of JESUS would want to call himself a 'bishop':

    Now do me a favor and tell me whether you really are a man.


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