dinsdag 17 juni 2014

Eternal torment or annihilation?



"Hell is annihilation and not eternal punishment"

"Man has no conscious existence apart from the body after he dies"

False teachers of annihilation: Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, Seventh-day Adventists, Herbert W. Armstrong/plain truth magazine.



Annihilationists argue that if you burn some paper, it is eternally destroyed and that is how we should view hell. Lets check it out in the Bible!

Annihilation is a member of "Domino Theology" family of doctrines
(Refute one element & refute the whole system!)

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UNIVERSALISM is WRONG!

 

 

 

Atheists are INSANE

 

 

 

SATAN IS IN FULL CONTROL OF YOU! 2

 

 

 

A sickly jealous morning star

 

 

 

Cleansed By Fire - Alice Cooper

 

 

 

Hell No 

 

 

 

Pictures of Hell 

 

 

 

Alverzoening is KOLDER!

 

 

 

Alverzoening is één grote aanklacht tegen God

 

 

 

Alverzoening of een kleine schare?

 

 

 

Zal satan worden vergeven?

 

 


satan is een ALVERZOENER 

 

 

 

Alverzoeners gaan niet mee met de opname

 

 

13 opmerkingen:

  1. 3:40 The eternal LAKE OF FIRE is a BIBLICAL DOCTRINE, and denying this, is just as BAD as FORNICATION!
    Eternal torment or annihilation? http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2014/06/eternal-torment-or-annihilation.html

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  2. +Dell Liberette Jehovah's Witnesses EXPOSED! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Jehovah%20Witnesses/jw.htm

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  3. +matrixlone WISE UP: Eternal torment or annihilation? http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2014/06/eternal-torment-or-annihilation.html

    +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife Hi Princess! ;-))

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  4. +matrixlone
    Death is a FORCE, created by God-the Lord JESUS in order to make a SEPARATION between His HOLINESS and this UNHOLY dimension.


    EVERY person, every animal and ALL that exists in THIS dimension between heaven (God's realm) and hell=the the LAKE of FIRE=the 2nd death, exists in this DEATH-dimension and is doomed to decay and die.

    It's through GRACE that God=JESUS saves the unborn and little children, but even the unborn are conceived under the power of DEATH, and that's due to God's OWN CURSE after the Fall of Adam and Eve.

    There was only ONE person who wasn't conceived under the power of death and that's of course the Lord JESUS Christ, who was conceived through the Holy Spirit on behalf of God the Father, with whom the SON is ONE!

    The first death is this existence, from conception till the physical death, and in the hereafter, in the REALM of the DEAD, and the second death is the eternal SEPARATION from God-the Lord JESUS in the lake of fire.

    Born again believers in JESUS Christ still exist in a slowly dying body, but their spirits have become ETERNALLY SAVED, and they won't go to the realm of the dead, after they (have) die(d) but to a place called 'Paradise', where they exist until the resurrection of the dead and the pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-RAPTURE.

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  5. Make a CLEAR distinction between the REALM of the DEAD = SHEOL or HADES, and HELL= the LAKE of FIRE = the 2nd DEATH = the OUTER DARKNESS.

    NO ONE has been in the LAKE of FIRE, which is FAR WORSE than the realm of the DEAD!
    http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&q=hell&step=20&qall=0&qids=ffffffffffffffffffffff7f&idq=8&id14=1&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en&q1=1

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  6. +Lucan Stone Eternal torment or annihilation? http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2014/06/eternal-torment-or-annihilation.html
    Hans S
    11:08 PM




    +grich05 Eternal torment or annihilation? http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2014/06/eternal-torment-or-annihilation.html

    We are all meant to be like the angels.
    Fallen angels can't be saved because they are supernatural beings, so JESUS didn't die for them but for humans and animals, in the capacity of an innocent 'animal' Himself as the Lamb of God' in a spiritual sense.

    When people have become like the angels, after this temporary existence between heaven and hell, they are in the same position as the FALLEN angels OR as REDEEMED former creatures of flesh and blood, thanks to God's MERCY through JESUS.

    The argument that no one asked for their existence isn't valid, because what did you know when you were an EMBRYO?

    An embryo or unborn baby which dies will be judged accordingly, and this judgement will be very mildly and this goes for little children too.

    All people, so also the unborn, are the product of sinners, due to our ancestors Adam and Eve, so NO ONE is innocent.

    But God-the Lord JESUS will very lenient toward the unborn and little children.

    From the moment a child is starting to think for him or herself, it will be judged accordingly.

    JESUS loves ALL little children, including the unborn, because judging them will be EASY, and I believe they will all be SAVED, so also the MILLIONS of unborn babies and little children that perished during the Flood, because it wasn't their fault that their wicked parents didn't want to be saved by getting aboard Noah's Ark.

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    grich05
    Dec 12, 2015




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    1. +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
      So if good gave humans free will, free will to choose to love him or not. Why would the two choices be love me and live forever or don't and be eternally tortured forever!? That's not a real choice if you really think about it! Especially when nobody asked to be born. Also if God has to be perfect or he is not God. He is perfect in every way. So God is perfectly just, or his Justice is perfect! So somebody who lives a life of sin literally existed and sinned for a extremely small amount of time relative to ETERNITY! So the perfect justice for that is eternal torment huh? That doesn't make any sense! It's a deception straight from Satan himself. It makes God seem sadistic to people with common sense and they turn away from him. Hell is real and people will pay for their sins accordingly. No more no less. Do you actually believe that Gandhi who was not a christian will suffer the same as Satan or Hitler!? They will pay the price for their individual sins or suffer in the lake of fire for the time it takes to burn that sin out of existence and then they will die the second death. How could the universe be free of sin and evil if hell still exist forever? Doesn't make any sense. Keep in mind nobody has a clue how long it takes to burn away sin. Those who are to suffer in the lake of fire could be burning for a long time depending on the severity of their sins. But one thing is for sure it definitely is not forever. That's just ridiculous. If you can't see that eternal hell is a deception to turn people away from God please pray and ask our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to show you the truth. I love you and God Bless
      Adam B
      Mar 26, 2016




      But you say Everlasting destruction, couldn't you just replace the word destruction with annihilation and prove our point?
      Lucan Stone (Your Black Protoman)
      8:20 PM




      "Everlasting punishment is never-ending punishment... Not a punishment that ceases to exist.."

      You just bought the last copy left of one of your favorite books. Someone who feels like you did them wrong for some reason comes up while you're receiving the book, takes it from you, drives away with it, and runs it into a shredder so it can never be read. In other words, the last copy you just bought of that book you wanted to preserve ceases to exist. Does that mean this person didn't just take your book and destroy it forever, or does it in fact mean the exact opposite?

      So when God burns the wicked to death until they become nothing but ash and declares sin and death defeated permanently, that doesn't mean the punishment ceases to exist; that means the condition/result of the punishment is that the wicked cease to exist.

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    2. +Michael Hurwitz
      You're a false teacher because the lake of fire is ETERNAL and those who will be cast in this ETERNAL DETENTION CENTER will BURN FOREVER
      , but with SUPERNATURAL FLAMES and the damned will also have SUPERNATURAL bodies, like Satan and the fallen angels, but also the damned humans.
      It's a SATANIC LIE that angels and people will cease to exist.
      That's an idea which is in the interest of Satan.
      Too bad for him: he will suffer forever and the other damned too.

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      Michael Hurwitz
      Yesterday 1:03 AM
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      Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with everlasting fire and are whose ashes are to be held as an example for those who would live ungodly
      It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
      Yesterday 2:09 PM




      +Michael Hurwitz Amen
      Lucan Stone (Your Black Protoman)
      Yesterday 2:41 PM
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      +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
      So…are Sodom and Gomorrah still burning today?
      It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
      Yesterday 11:11 PM




      +Lucan Stone No. The inside of the earth is still burning.
      Michael Hurwitz
      Yesterday 11:37 PM




      +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife You missed my point; the same eternal fire which reduced S&G to ash to set forth an example for those who live ungodly clearly shows that the false doctrine of eternal torment has been misrepresented. It's a lie from Satan. The Bible is explicitly clear that immortality is found only through Jesus Christ. God is not going to immortalize sin. Malachi 4:1-3 could not be anymore clear. And when Jesus states "...but fear him who can destroy both body and soul in hell," He means what he says. John 3:16 likewise means what it says, likewise "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through our Lord Jesus Christ" means what it says. Immortality is only found through Jesus Christ. The wicked will not be immortalized and memorialized when we're gathered in the New Jerusalem. When God says pain and suffering will be no more, and are gone forever, He means it. God is omnipresent, so if he'll is eternal then suffering still exits. Study up
      Michael Hurwitz
      Yesterday 11:37 PM




      +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife You missed my point; the same eternal fire which reduced S&G to ash to set forth an example for those who live ungodly clearly shows that the false doctrine of eternal torment has been misrepresented. It's a lie from Satan. The Bible is explicitly clear that immortality is found only through Jesus Christ. God is not going to immortalize sin. Malachi 4:1-3 could not be anymore clear. And when Jesus states "...but fear him who can destroy both body and soul in hell," He means what he says. John 3:16 likewise means what it says, likewise "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through our Lord Jesus Christ" means what it says. Immortality is only found through Jesus Christ. The wicked will not be immortalized and memorialized when we're gathered in the New Jerusalem. When God says pain and suffering will be no more, and are gone forever, He means it. God is omnipresent, so if he'll is eternal then suffering still exits. Study up
      Michael Hurwitz
      Yesterday 11:37 PM




      +Lucan Stone (Your Black Protoman) You got what I was saying

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    3. +Lucan Stone
      God=JESUS is the inventor of DEATH and death means SEPARATION from God.

      Adam and Eve became spiritually DEAD=separated from God after their disobedience.
      You don't know God, otherwise you would have known that God isn't able to DESTROY spiritual beings after He has created them, and after they have rebelled against Him.
      He can only cast them into a special 'detention center' called the lake of fire.
      You're focused on this physical realm.
      There is a spiritual realm, and it all belongs to God,

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      JESUS!

      Are you sure you won't burn in hell, aka the lake of fire?
      Hans S
      4:09 AM




      +Michael Hurwitz
      You can always 'study up' in the lake of fire, but then it's too late for you to repent and surrender to the REAL JESUS Christ.

      God = JESUS can DESTROY both body and soul, but He can't make a SPIRIT non-existent again.

      So He needed a TRASH CAN: the LAKE of FIRE!

      Bub bye!

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      Lucan Stone (Your Black Protoman)
      2:10 AM
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      +Hans S
      "It's a SATANIC LIE that angels and people will cease to exist."

      God told Adam and Eve that if they ate from the forbidden tree of knowledge in the Garden of Eden, "You will surely burn in hell."

      Oh wait, that's not it. Actually, it's "You will surely DIE."

      You know who told Eve that no, she wouldn't die if she ate from the tree, in order to tempt her into doing so and ensuring the world would be broken?

      Think about that for a second.
      Michael Hurwitz
      3:16 AM




      +Hans S Sorry, the idea of the immortal soul is a lie from Satan. You have it backwards. The Bible is explicitly clear that immortality is only found through Jesus Christ. It was Satan who told Eve "Surely you will not die," and it was God who guarded the tree of life specifically so that man would not gain immortality. But Jesus says in Revelation 2:7 "He who has an ear let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the paradise of God." And I'm not a teacher, I'm a student of the Bible who has thoroughly studied this subject and it is made very clear that immortality is only found in Jesus Christ. For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ." John 3:16 read with fresh perspective makes this clear. "...but fear him who can destroy both body and soul in hell." JC means what he says. You've been deceived, not I. Study up
      Michael Hurwitz
      3:25 AM




      +Hans S And sorry about the confusing scripture quotes, I have a minuscule character limit so am trying to get in as many as possible. For the few which seem to support eternal torment, there are a hundred times as many which make the fate of the wicked being destroyed very clear. Malachi 4:1-3 Ezekiel 18:4 Rom 6:23 Rom 2:7 Matt 10:28 John 3:16 Psalm 37:20 Thessalonians 2:8 Matt 7:13-14 2Peter 3:7 Ezekiel 33:11 John 15:6 and on and on and on. It is very very clear. Eternal torment is a lie from Satan and you should pray for discernment

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