dinsdag 12 mei 2015

THOU SHALT NOT MASTURBATE! (or you will BURN in hell!)

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  1. +husky394xp Masturbation is NOT a sin! Saying it's a sin, is ROMAN CATHOLIC TORTURE!
    I know someone who has COMMITTED SUICIDE because of this SATANIC NONSENSE!
    He HANGED himself as a believer in JESUS!
    And Satan was LAUGHING!
    If masturbation is a sin, than God=JESUS is a SATANIC CRIMINAL for turning children into adults with a SEX DRIVE!
    But NOT God=JESUS is a SATANIC CRIMINAL, but SATAN, because, he knows our weaknesses and he wants to turn our sexual urge into something UGLY.
    Did JESUS masturbate?
    No, because He is/was God, manifested in the flesh, and He didn't give Himself the assignment to procreate.
    But He was the owner of genitals, because He's the creator of SEXUALITY.
    Fornication is a sin=transgression of God's commandments.
    LUST is Not a sin!
    Without LUST my dad wouldn't have had the urge to conceive ME and I wouldn't have EXISTED!
  2. +Thomas Remmers
    Where does it say in the Bible THOU SHALT NOT MASTURBATE?
    I know SATAN likes to say this so that people not only want to masturbate, but to go further and FORNICATE!

    Masturbation is NATURAL!
    Fornication is NOT natural!
    Fornication is a CRIME in God's eyes!
    Masturbation is a bodily need, just like HUNGER and THIRST.
    But when people are really HUNGRY and THIRSTY, the FIRST thing they don't need is MASTURBATION and the urge to have sex.
    This is what happened in the Nazi concentration camps.
  3. +Thomas Remmers Is JESUS your Lord and Savior?
    You talk a lot about the Bible, but do you have a personal relationship with Him?


    Do you defecate and urinate?

    Of course you (and I) do, but you (and I) don't do it in public.

    Children are being TAUGHT that masturbation is a sin by RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITES!








Hans S
6:39 AM
+FervorForFaith One can even be a masturbator when married, if one uses the body of the spouse as a means to get sexual satisfaction.
So, then it's a form of masturbation too, when the sexual act isn't done out of MUTUAL love and respect.

What you're saying is: people I have masturbated because I couldn't control myself.
Then I became a believer in JESUS-the Lord God, who is the creator of everything, including sexuality, and then I discovered it's a sin.
Then you started to find a wife, and you believe God gave you a wife, and I congratulate you with that, because that's only NATURAL.

But now you're telling others it's a sin to masturbate, while you have done it yourself, and TURN IT INTO A LAW!

Did God-JESUS gave you the orders to turn it into a law?

I don't think so!

During the time the Bible was written, there was no such thing as photography and film/(digital) video, but people themselves have not changed over time.

The mind itself is a 'movie maker'.

Of course it's not WISE to be a porn addict and to masturbate like crazy!

Turning a natural urge into CRIMINAL act according to the judgement of oneself is one thing, but telling others they're criminals by being a masturbator is something else.

Masturbation is NOT a sexual act with someone else, but with ONESELF.

Every human body needs food and drink and sleep and more, and this body is also telling the mind 'I want to have sex!'.

Now, the point is in what way we're dealing with this PROBLEM, which God-JESUS has created, because it wasn't the devil who has created it!

Satan didn't curse this world and Satan didn't turn potential IMMORTAL beings into creatures who are slowly DYING.

When Adam and Eve were in Paradise they were SO HAPPY and FULFILLED, that they did NOT NEED sex!

The longing to have sex is the longing to be in Paradise again, because Adam and Eve were NAKED and WITHOUT SHAME to one another and toward God, who happens to be JESUS.

AFTER the Fall of Adam and Eve, and after they were driven out of Paradise by God, the need to be INTIMATE arose and only then they discovered sexuality for the first time.

In other words: God USED the fall of Adam and Eve in order to make them PROCREATE.

They weren't procreating in Paradise!

They had better things to do, like ENJOYING everything which God had made, and the circumstances in Paradise were MUCH, MUCH better than even on the best current place on earth.

Besides: Adam and Eve were physically adults, but in their souls and minds they were like super intelligent CHILDREN.

Sexuality and procreation is God's answer to DEATH!

Without DEATH there is NO REASON for procreation through sexuality!

Does the fall of Adam and Eve and their disobedience to God (by listening to Satan) have anything to do with sex?

Of course not!

But God used it in order to make them procreate and not only them, but ALL of NATURE!

Since then we have the laws of DEATH and RENEWAL through procreation, and plants and animals also serve as FOOD for other animals and also for us humans.

What does this have to do with the issue of masturbation?

I believe it's CRUEL and TORTURE to tell others (like adolescents, who have the strongest sex drive of all people) it's a SIN=a CRIME to masturbate, and especially in case one has been a masturbator him/herself!

The more you FORBID it, the more it becomes a FORBIDDEN FRUIT!

And not all people are so lucky and blessed like you (and me) to have found a partner, a spouse!

In fact it makes me ANGRY when SINNERS tell other SINNERS: 'hey, you are a DIRTY SINNER, because I have been a DIRTY SINNER myself, but now I'm not a dirty sinner anymore, because JESUS=God gave me a BODY with which I can SATISFY myself (for the time being)'.

The pure human is a MIND, a BRAIN, a SPIRIT within a physical body, which resembles the body of ANIMALS!

Physically there's NO difference between animals and humans.

I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are BEASTS.

Ecclesiastes 3

It all comes down to LEARN to control our own ANIMAL-LIKE body!

This is something we started to learn from when we were born into this world/dimension.

BUT DON'T TELL OTHERS THAT THE URGE TO BE WANTING TO HAVE SEX IS A SIN!

That's CRUELTY and TORTURE!

And very ROMAN CATHOLIC=SATANIC!

I'm Dutch, so my English may have been inadequate, but I'm not responsible for the confusion of tongues, but God, though man was the cause of it, because of their disobedience to God, who wanted them to spread all over the world when our ancestors lived in Babel, in the time after the Flood.



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  1. +tristanhnl A follower of JESUS is always in contact with God the Father through the Holy Spirit, who is JESUS in spiritual capacity.
    He is our BEST COUNSELOR!
    Masturbation and the urge to have sex is something between the creature and his/her MANUFACTURER=CREATOR=GOD=JESUS!

    I also have to defecate and to urinate, but I'm not talking about it all the time on the internet and in public.;-))

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  2. +tristanhnl
    Are you a follower of JESUS or a follower of fellow sinners/mortals?
    DARE to talk EVERYTHING over with God, aka JESUS.


    6 In all your ways acknowledge him,
    And he will direct your paths.
    6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
    Proverbs 3:6
    http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Prov+3%3A6&id14=1&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

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  3. +tristanhnl
    Why should you listen to me?
    I'm only someone who has been saved and filled with the Holy Spirit, who is JESUS in spiritual capacity.

    Read your Bible: there's NOTHING in it AGAINST ZELFBEVREDIGING, which is Dutch for 'self gratifying' or 'self satisfying'.

    When I put 'zelfbevrediging' into Google translate, it's being translated into self-abuse??????????

    So there you have it: the ENGLISH culture is CONDEMNATORY toward sexuality!

    I'm Dutch and I'm an ex-atheist.

    All atheists consider Christians' to be the most hypocritical people in history.

    When I used to be an atheist I NEVER wanted to have anything to do with 'Christians' and 'Christianity'.

    And Satan was laughing, because I also didn't want to have anything to do with JESUS....

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  4. Wat een lekkere gekke wijven...

    Maar zonder JEZUS gaan ze wel naar de hel.

    Dat weer wel....

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  5. +fueler747 Adam was the FIRST human being, and for some time he was the ONLY man on earth!
    But he was NEVER ALONE, because God=JESUS was with him.
    The problem started after the creation of Eve.
    Then Adam had to CHOOSE between God and a WOMAN......
    Now, I'm not saying that Eve was the problem. I'm saying that Adam had to choose between a human of flesh and blood and God Himself.

    JESUS is my BEST FRIEND. He knows EVERYTHING about me and He can read my mind, and yet He loves me! And I love Him!
    JESUS be with us, brother!
    He's coming!

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  6. +Thomas Remmers
    Have a nice wet dream!
    But now you've only talked about male sexuality/masturbation.
    What do you know about female sexuality/masturbation?


    It's very interesting.
    There are a lot of videos about this topic on YouTube and lots of info about it on the internet.

    Now, YOU are going to tell ALL people who aren't married (one man and one woman) that masturbation is a sin.

    So, not only the believers in JESUS.

    Have a lot of fun!

    This is the NEW LAW: ONLY believers in JESUS who are married in a Biblical sense are entitled to have sexuality.

    All the others (that's the overwhelming majority) aren't allowed to have sex or to masturbate!

    Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
    http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Mt+21%3A31&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

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  7. +Ari Lennox Then do it in PUBLIC when it's as normal as rubbing one's NOSE.

    THOU SHALT NOT MASTURBATE! (or you will BURN in hell!) http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/05/thou-shalt-not-masturbate-or-you-will.html

    Why do like to show your tattooed body to the public? https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VjpQIt7oWRo/Udl5pKEd97I/AAAAAAAAAFA/W0GoPJH7JCU/w453-h813-no/photo%2B%25281%2529.JPG

    Do you like the idea that boys and men masturbate when they see you like that?

    ''Lord JESUS, you've made Ari quite pretty, and what are your thoughts about her presentation of herself and her body to the world?

    Thanks for the answers.
    I love you."

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  8. +R. Jerome Harris JESUS is the Word of God and He is God, whether we like it or not.

    The Bible is so 'unimportant' that when JESUS saved me He spoke the following: 'Hans, there are two things you can do: commit suicide, or start reading the Bible'.

    The point is that I'm an ex-atheist and an ex-adherent of the theory of evolution, and I had never read the Bible.

    JESUS is a JEW and He is God, hence God is a JEW, whether people like it or not.
    Most people don't like it, and that's why they HATE the Jews, and in most cases they don't even know WHY they HATE the Jews, but that's because they are driven by Satan (the adversary: the fallen angel Lucifer, or Morning Star), who KNOWS that God is JESUS and a JEW, and that He's coming back to HIS country Israel and HIS Capitol Jerusalem to take away the world power from Satan, the Antichrist and the False Prophet.

    I believe they are the POPE and OBAMA: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/02/pope-francis-luciferian-number-13.html

    It's FOOLISHNESS to think it's sufficient to know (about) JESUS by reading the gospels, because JESUS is EVERYWHERE in the Bible, because it's HIS BOOK, HIS PROGRAM, HIS 'PLAY'. JESUS is within the WHOLE Bible. Yes, also in the passages that are about the devil, because God is JESUS created this PERSON, this ANGEL, and NOT as the devil, but as a SERVANT.

    All angels and all people are meant to be God's SERVANTS and each others SERVANTS, and not through force and fear, but out free will and out of LOVE! "Black folk (my people)" All people are RELATED to each other and WE all derive from Noah and his wife and his three sons and their wives: EIGHT PEOPLE! Before that they derived from Adam and Eve.

    Were Adam and Eve PALE (there are no 'white' people)? Were they DEEP BROWN (there are no 'black' people? NO: they were IN BETWEEN! VERY SIMPLE! God is JESUS is the creator of ALL varieties among the human RACE, because there is ONLY ONE human race.

    Don't call yourself 'black': your skin is BROWN and your hair is BLACK...at least it used to be black, and now you are bald.

    There are PALE or LIGHT PINKISH people with BLACK hair too. My mother fits this description, but her hair is now GREY. But as we know, it's possible that people with a pale skin can get a tanned skin due to ultraviolet (UV) radiation from sunlight or from artificial sources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_tanning

    The average color of BLOOD of all people is RED. The average color of excrement of ALL people is BROWN, but there are variations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_feces

    You talk a lot about 'Christianity', but it's all about JESUS! 'Christianity' is man made RELIGION and the worst CULT is the Roman Catholic CULT, which has NOTHING to do with the real JESUS the Jew from Bethlehem and Nazareth, Israel.

    The real god of the Roman Catholic CULT is the SUN-god, symbolized by a CROSS! JESUS was CRUCIFIED on the SATANIC symbol of His ADVERSARY=SATAN. Adolf Hitler was a ROMAN CATHOLIC and he used the SUN-god SWASTIKA as his symbol, which derives from BABYLON.

    He was 100% acting on behalf of the VATICAN and the JESUIT PRIEST, Joseph Stalin too. They were BOTH financed by (Vatican controlled) AMERICA!.

    If you want to know more, then visit my site: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl

    PS: this is about masturbation. My opinion: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/05/thou-shalt-not-masturbate-or-you-will.html

    Hans, from the Netherlands

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  9. HELP! I have a CRAZY ANIMAL between my legs!

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  10. My name is DICK van Dyke...ha ha!

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  11. +Connie Feijen
    What you call demonic is just the FLESH, and people have to learn to control their ANIMAL instincts, and not only concerning sexuality, but also concerning other 'works of the flesh':


    Galatians 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV)
    19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
    20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
    21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

    But this is also true: Thank God for the creation of ANIMALS http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/03/thank-god-for-creation-of-animals.html

    Something else: Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/07/israels-kingdom-gospel-and-our-grace.html

    Groeten van Hans, uit Nederland!
    Greetings from Hans, from the Netherlands!

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  12. Men kan beter over je fiets lullen dan over je lul fietsen....of zoiets....

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  13. +CrazyIvan1988
    Then use it as an opportunity to tell them about JESUS!

    Satan hates JESUS and perverts too.
    I'm not condemning you, but I encourage you to be bold for JESUS, in case He's really the one who has saved you from going to (HIS) hell.

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  14. +einc70
    Your name is not einc70.

    Hans S
    8:01 PM




    +einc70 Something else:
    There are almost no people who tell what they do with their nose all the time, but when it comes to our genitals there are loads of people who feel the urge to talk about these body parts, or who like to condemn others who do something they like with their own genitals.
    Most of the time it's coming from people who have a love/hate relationship with their genitals, which they didn't have when they were small children.

    So they have LEARNED to have a love/hate relationship with genitals.

    Is JESUS Christ your Savior and are you saved?

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  15. +CrazyIvan1988 No, you're SUGGESTING I've called JESUS stupid, because you like to DICTATE what others do or say, because you have a GOD-COMPLEX, like ALL PEOPLE since Adam and Eve, and that's why God in the capacity of JESUS had to die such a ROTTEN DEATH in order to be PUNISHED, while being INNOCENT, so that anyone who believes in this DEED of ULTIMATE PASSION by the SON=God, manifested in the flesh, JESUS Christ, would NOT perish, but have EVERLASTING LIFE.

    ENJOY your temple when EXCREMENT is coming out of your rear end and when it smells like hell.

    Ecclesiastes 3:18 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    I considered in mine heart the state of the children of men, that God had purged them: yet to see too, they are in themselves as beasts.

    Ecclesiastes 3:18 World English Bible (WEB)

    18 I said in my heart, “As for the sons of men, God tests them, so that they may see that they themselves are like animals.

    1 Corinthians 6:19 World English Bible (WEB)
    19 Or don’t you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have from God? You are not your own,

    1 Corinthians 6:19 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
    19 Know ye not, that your body is the temple of the holy Ghost, which is in you, whom ye have of God? and ye are not your own.

    This is ONLY meant concerning FORNICATION.

    MASTURBATION is NOT FORNICATION!

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  16. +CrazyIvan1988 THOU SHALT NOT MASTURBATE! (or you will BURN in hell!) http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/05/thou-shalt-not-masturbate-or-you-will.html?showComment=1447185841193

    If my erection is filthy and if the sperm coming out of it is filthy, then God=JESUS is Himself a PERVERT, because He has created it, and JESUS was the owner of a penis Himself!

    Of course we know that we can do TWO things with a penis and a vagina: urinate or have sexual intercourse.

    But these body parts seem to lead a life on their own, and we must learn to control them.

    My penis is just as 'filthy' as my NOSE or my MOUTH......NOT!

    We can choose to stimulate our sexual organs, or we can choose to IGNORE them.

    Who is the creator of LUST?

    God or the devil?

    I know FOR SURE it's GOD and JESUS is God!

    Without lust no sexuality and no procreation and the end of humanity!

    Now God wants us to learn to control ourselves, but first we have to know how the 'machine' works.

    There's NOTHING wrong with masturbation!

    Being ADDICTED to it is!

    When people are hungry they don't think of sex.

    Adam and Eve discovered sexuality AFTER the Fall.

    Before that they were just too HAPPY and comparable to grown up and very intelligent CHILDREN.

    After the Fall Adam had to WORK in order to get food and shelter etc. and Eve too, and under much harsher circumstances than in Paradise.

    But suppose they would have discovered sexuality while they were still in Paradise?

    They would have only thought about sex and not of God anymore, because God knows everything about the POWER of sexuality!

    The FACT that they had not yet discovered sexuality was that Eve had NOT yet been PREGNANT!

    Her first pregnancy was AFTER the Fall.

    Sexuality is a REMINDER of Paradise: two people (a MAN and a WOMAN) who love each other are naked like Adam and Eve, but within PRIVATE circumstances, so that no other than God can see them.

    And when the woman gets pregnant they ACCEPT it in love, because they KNOW that sexuality was created for this purpose, and also to strengthen the pair bond, and we see this too in nature among certain animals.

    So I say: masturbation is a TRY OUT without the 'real thing'.

    My first experience was when I was 9 years old, and I was waking up from a sexual dream.

    Now would you say to a BOY of 9 'hey, you FILTHY, DIRTY SINNER...what did you do with yourself?'.

    If a parent or an older brother or sister would do that this would be the REAL SIN!

    Then you're giving a YOUNG ADOLESCENT the ASSOCIATION 'masturbation and sex in general is BAD and EVIL!'

    Satan loves to do that!

    He created a church full of sexual frustrated people who have a completely WRONG concept about sexuality: the Roman Catholic CULT.

    And this system generates PERVERTS.

    But JESUS = GOD NEVER created something BAD.

    it's the JEALOUS fallen ANGEL Satan who tries to make sexuality filthy and corrupt, and unfortunately with 'great success'.

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  17. +CrazyIvan1988
    CONGRATULATIONS! Now you are a BETTER PERSON than all those ANIMAL and FILTHY MASTURBATORS!


    And you don't JESUS to HELP you in EVERYTHING, because you can REDEEM YOURSELF!

    FANTASTIC!

    And that's why you call yourself CRAZY IVAN 1988.

    I'm Hans, from the Netherlands, 55, and DEAD WITHOUT JESUS CHRIST!

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    1. And you don't JESUS=And you don't need JESUS

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  18. +CrazyIvan1988
    Why do you ask me whether I'm insane, CRAZY Ivan 1988?


    Only JESUS CHRIST is NORMAL! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/09/only-jesus-christ-is-normal.html

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  19. +Linzie Rosa People who are hungry or BUSY doing constructive things aren't interested in sex. I agree that people who masturbate make their bodies 'hungry for more', but the same goes for LEGAL sex within marriage. The BODY likes it and is asking for more, unless the experience was bad. So in all cases it a question to learn to control oneself, but in principle I believe that masturbation is NOT a sin. The urge to want to have sex is something which God has created, so wise people talk it over with Him and ask Him what to do. I'm pretty sure Satan wants people to condemn themselves and others because of something he as a fallen angel doesn't have: the ability to procreate and have sex. Satan is VERY JEALOUS at us humans! That's why he loves to corrupt this special gift and that's why he wants to turn people into WILD ANIMALS. People who condemn masturbation are those who have masturbated themselves a lot. They are like ex-smokers. The worst anti-smokers are ex walking chimneys. My advise: share EVERYTHING with God-the Lord JESUS, because He's the creator/designer of our bodies.

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    1. So in all cases it a question=So in all cases it's a question

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  20. +einc70
    There are 2 ways to look at masturbation: it's a problem.
    It's no problem.

    My fist masturbation happened WITHOUT an ejaculation when I was a BOY of 9 years old while I was WAKING UP.

    It was GREAT! ;-))

    In case it's a problem, then sex is a problem and then God-the Lord JESUS is to BLAME, because He created it.

    In case it's not a problem....then what are we talking about?

    We all change from CHILDREN into ADULTS and we don't ASK for it, so it's God's RESPONSIBILITY, because He gave us a SEX DRIVE.

    When I was a child (so before my sexual awakening at 9) I was NOT interested in SEX, but God FORCED me to become interested in SEX, because He turned a CHILD into an ADOLESCENT and an ADULT.

    I HAD NO CHOICE but to accept that I had become a person with a SEX DRIVE.

    Thank you very much God-the Lord JESUS!

    But what's the USE of having a SEX DRIVE at the age of 9 or even younger?????

    Are we then STUPID ANIMALS?????

    The answer is.......YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    God can ONLY save ANIMALS and NOT fallen angels and people who are just as PROUD and INSANE as SATAN.

    Thank God for the creation of ANIMALS
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/03/thank-god-for-creation-of-animals.html

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    BEN “The Stoner” Drowned
    Mar 9, 2016




    I love to masturbate :)
    Samuel The Gamer
    Apr 16, 2016




    +einc70 is hentai pronodraphy?
    Dalton Wilds
    May 15, 2016




    +einc70 So give us the commandment that you claim Mark is swaying around...
    Hans S
    May 15, 2016




    +BEN Drowned
    If you mean it then you're at least honest.

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    1. lazzzyboy
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      I understand your point but we need to realize something, something that we don't realize is a major factor, the fact that it doesn't speak of masturbation in The Bible. This is important because Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, and The Almighty God are extremely wise. Wiser than us. And we look for Guidance in The Word Of God, The Bible. I feel like we are making assumptions that incorrect. How do we know when the verse in The Bible, which states that making love is only between A Man And His Wife. But how do we know and Jesus and God have an exception for masturbation? For all we know, masturbation might just be a normal activity to do, it may also be the Devel's trap to bring us away from the Lord and God. But the thing is like I said, it isn't mentioned in the Bible. And maybe if it isn't, perhaps it isn't an important subject. God would have personally made it certain for us know that it is a sin, like how murdering, lying, rape are ALL mentioned in The Bible. If masturbation was a sin, and speaking that also, masturbation is a task which can be done any second of any day, and if it was a sin. I am sure God would have specifically said or at least mentioned, if it is a sin or not, considering how easy it is to do. And that this is not new, masturbation is a simple task which stimulates the glands and is probably very easily discovered during puberty, which when our sex drives are high. And we are aroused very easily, especially for males. Since getting boners, it's more of a noticeable, physical reaction of the body. And it's only a matter of time when the person discovers masturbation.
      einc70
      Yesterday 6:53 PM




      +lazzzyboy​ I think Jesus in saying that,

      "28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.," (Matt 5)

      So arousing oneself is not natural but generated by our thoughts whether in doing it with someone or by ourselves (solitary pleasures). Is still a sin for Jesus. Entertaining our thoughts whether by watching a woman passing by or looking at a porn magazine in toilets in order to rise curiosity OR to have thing in mind, seek sexual pleasuring are no difference. At least my understanding of this verse by Jesus. It all start with a thought and what you want to do with it.

      Am I understanding this right? 

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    2. +einc70
      JESUS knows my way of thinking and He has no problems with it.

      I'm an ex-atheist without a NEUROTIC Christian-religious background.

      I don't have to back up anything, because you didn't create me and you didn't die for me on the cross and you don't love me, so who do you think you are?
      The inquisition?

      I'm GLAD that JESUS was SLAUGHTERED in my place as the LAMB (= and ANIMAL) of God!

      Thank you JESUS!

      JESUS is God and the inventor of SEX and PROCREATION, and when I was a child I thought that 'adults' are INSANE because they seem to need a thing called 'sex'.

      So, since I'm an adult myself with a sex drive, I'm insane too, according my own logic of when I was a child, and only children will enter the Kingdom of Heaven and not people with erections and overheated vaginas.

      There's nothing holy about sex: it's a 'crazy little thing called love'.

      Salomon knew all about it, because he had 1000 wives, and the first men had NO CHOICE but to impregnate their sisters!

      Later it became a SIN.

      And people LOVE to CONDEMN other people, because they think they are god themselves.

      And JESUS?

      Matthew 21:28-31 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
      28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons, and came to the elder, and said, Son, go and work today in my vineyard.
      29 But he answered, and said, I will not: yet afterward he repented himself, and went.
      30 Then came he to the second, and said likewise. And he answered, and said, I will, Sir: yet he went not.
      31 Whether of them twain did the will of the father? They said unto him, The first. Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, that the Publicans and the harlots* go before you into the kingdom of God.

      *WHORES

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      +Hans S​​​​ so you're saying that God "forced" you to have a sex drive? Are you sure it's God or your hormones? Yeah it's great solitary pleasure. When you say God "forced" you to, you have to back up with a scripture because I've never that from the Bible? God condones chastity, sexual intercourse within the bond of marriage? But with yourself? You sound like you believe that God is a premature teen hunting for sex? 

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    3. +einc70
      Did I say that harlots or whore mongers will go to heaven?

      Do you know who'll go to heaven?


      Those who have acknowledged that they deserve to rot in hell forever, and that JESUS is the ONLY way to redemption.

      Do you love JESUS?

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      einc70
      3:48 AM




      +Hans S you're talking about "lust" of the flesh. Matt 5:28 is clear on lustful thoughts that drives one to sexual sin.

      Matt 31: 28-31 it talks about sinners that "repented" of their ways that would be saved. Not whores "harlots" WILL go to heaven. That to justify "lust" is an ok thing.

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    4. +einc70 JESUS means 'I AM SALVATION'.
      God's name is 'I AM'.

      JESUS is God in he capacity of Savior.
      If you know Him, you know God the Father.
      I know Him because He's my Father and my best friend, my creator and my Savior.
      I know who the president of the US is, but I've never met him.
      I know who the creator of everything is, and He spoke to me, and He called my name:

      'Hans, there are two things you can do: commit suicide or start reading the Bible', He said.

      And a little over 3 years before that He said exactly the same, because I was a hard nut to crack, being a former atheist and a former believer in evolution, who had never read the Bible.

      He knows everything about me, and yet He loves me.

      Get to know this God: He's JESUS Christ.

      He's far more important than the POTUS or all the world leaders combined.

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      einc70
      4:47 AM




      +Hans S​ I'm a believer if that's what you mean. "Love" Jesus? No I've never met him. I know who he is and what's he's done for us as Savior and Redeemer, have approved all he said as wise and true. If you mean by "love" as some type of infatuation thing like some born again Christians claim. Nope. But a firm believer. Have I not referred from the NT?

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  21. +Smash Boy
    And you've said this while you are LYING about your true identity: that's a SIN!

    Are you ASHAMED to be associated with the NAME of JESUS Christ?

    There's NOTHING being said in the Bible about masturbation, so it should be everybody's OWN business and a matter between saved sinners and God-the Lord JESUS.
    Smash Boy
    5:40 AM




    +Hans S

    "And you've said this while you are LYING about your true identity: that's a SIN!"

    Ivan already went through with this and I think it's tiresome to deal with an extreme fundamentalist like you to even go to the extremes to say that customizing a username in a technological medium who I hardly personally interact with people are deserving of my true name. On the other hand, I do happen to have an account that has my true name. This account I primarily use it on YouTube, Discord, GitHub and Vector. Places I'm not obligated to reveal my true name.

    "Are you ASHAMED to be associated with the NAME of JESUS Christ?"

    What kind of pathetically illiterate question is that? Of course not. How is that even correlated to my username? A pseudonym in the Internet is not entailed to how I carry and honor the name of Christ. It doesn't matter what name I have, I'm the same person who honors Christ. There's no need for needless drama.

    "There's NOTHING being said in the Bible about masturbation.."

    The argument from silence is not cogent and thus, fallacious. You'll need a better argument than "the Bible does not say X." The Bible doesn't say anything about watching porn. Are we to say we can watch porn? The Bible doesn't say about Christians using technology or practicing martial arts, are we to say we shouldn't do those things? Once you think about it, your argument 'the Bible does not say X' is illogical.

    "...so it should be everybody's OWN business and a matter between a saved sinners and God-the Lord JESUS."

    This argument from ritualistic privation is also fallacious and for the record it is not something even taught in the Bible not encouraged. The society of the Bible was not privatistic but collectivist and agonistic. This means the group and the collective were emphasized. We are defined by our group leader or family as a whole. So what you are saying is if you want to associate yourself with Christ by affirming that masturbation is OK because the Scriptures do not explicitly say; you got another thing coming, son. Sorry, your arguments are not cogent. The same God who established the sexual ethical standards in the OT is the same God who taught at the Mount Sermon and they are very clear about this issue and we are to maintain self control when single. Period. It's not a matter of 'to each his/her own', it's a matter of spiritual maturity and self control. And that is a topic a community has a right and even duty to know and evaluate. 
    CrazyIvan1988
    6:45 AM




    +MERTIE123 Good luck finding a husband who wants a wife who is already lusting after other men.
    Hans S
    9:59 AM




    +Smash Boy
    Man, what an attitude!
    Now, go preach to JESUS about this: the one who changes children into adults.
    The one who changes adults (especially females after the menopause) into old people who in many cases don't fancy sexuality anymore.
    The one who created sexuality and procreation.
    Maybe He can learn something from you! ;))

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      Smash Boy
      11:32 AM




      +Hans S Perhaps if you can save the red herrings maybe we can get back on discussion. In the meantime, you are not arguing cogently.
      MERTIE123
      7:39 PM




      +CrazyIvan1988 there is no getting around the fact that He specifically said "if a man looketh upon a woman." I mean, it gets no more direct than that.
      MERTIE123
      7:39 PM




      +CrazyIvan1988 that should be easy.
      MERTIE123
      7:42 PM




      +Smash Boy explain to me how masturbating in marriage is ok, aren't you still touching yourself? To me that's even worse. You have your spouse there so it seems kind of perverted to touch yourself when you don't have to, that's your spouses' job.

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