maandag 3 oktober 2016

Flat Earth: Exposing the Jesuit Agenda!



Published on Mar 6, 2016
http://www.worldslastchance.com - The Earth is flat.

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A globe earth is unproven pseudo-science but is believed worldwide. It is a huge lie that has taken on a life of it’s own, being passed from generation to generation. Anyone who dares question it is mocked and ridiculed. Vladimir Lenin reportedly observed: “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.”


Brock Henderson
FUCK OFF YOU FLAT EARTH MORONS! I AM SICK OF SEEING FLAT EARTH SHIT EVERYWHERE ON YOUTUBE SPREADING AT AN EXPONENTIAL RATE BY THE MOST UNINTELLIGENT RETARDED INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MANAGED TO CONVINCE THEMSELVES THAT THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY FLAT AND HAVE CONVINCED THEMSELVES THAT THEY ARE UNCOVERING SOME KIND OF TRUTH. I THINK THE MOST AMUSING PART IS THE WAY YOU MORONS THINK YOU ARE USING SIMPLE SCIENCE AND EXPERIMENTATION AS EVIDENCE THAT APPARENTLY PROVES THE IDIOTIC "THEORY" OF FLAT EARTH. BUT WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IS 99% OF YOU QUACKJOBS HAVE AMAZINGLY DEVOTED YOURSELVES TO THIS RETARDED BELIEF AFTER WATCHING A COUPLE OF YOUTUBE VIDEOS AND READING SOME VERY UNSCIENTIFIC ARGUMENT THAT SOME OTHER MORON HAS FORMED AND THEN PROBABLY THOUGHT TO YOURSELVES WHILST WATCHING THIS CRAP AND READING THIS CRAP "HEY COME TO THINK OF IT, WHEN I'M OUTSIDE THE WORLD AROUND ME DOES LOOK PRETTY FLAT" AND FROM THAT MOMENT ON WITHOUT ANY FURTHER INQUIRY YOU IDIOTS TAKE A BLIND LEAP OF FAITH AND ATTACH YOURSELVES TO THE CONCEPT AS A FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU WATCHED A FEW VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE AND BECAUSE THE WORLD DOES LOOK FLAT FROM A HUMAN WHEN I WALK OUTSIDE. I AM UTTERLY AMAZED AT HOW VERY VERY MENTALLY ILL AND ABSOLUTELY INSANE YOU ALL MUST BE. HOW FUCKING EASY DID A COUPLE OF VERY SIMPLE YOUTUBE VIDEOS CONVINCE YOU TO THROW AWAY YOUR ENTIRE BELIEF SYSTEM WITHOUT QUESTIONING ANYTHING. HOW GULLIBLE ARE YOU. IT IS MORE SO A RELIGION THAN ANYTHING, IT DEFINITELY ISN'T SCIENTIFIC, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW SCIENCE IF IT SLAPPED YOU IN THE FACE - CLEARLY! IN FACT I HAVE SEEN YOU IDIOTS CHERRY PICK THEORIES OF SCIENCE TO THEN USE IN WHAT YOU ALL THINK IS AN EXPERIMENT, BUT THEN YOU ONLY CERTAIN PRINCIPLES OF A GIVEN THEORY THAT YOU LIKE AND THROW AWAY THE REST IN ORDER FOR YOUR SO CALLED EXPERIMENTS TO WORK. YOU ARE LITERALLY DESIGNING THEORIES OF SCIENCE TO SUIT THE DESIRED OUTCOME YOUR SEEKING FROM THE EXPERIMENT. WHICH IS TOTALLY BACKWARDS. YOU PEOPLE ARE SERIOUSLY STUPID. THERE REALLY ISN'T WORDS TO DESCRIBE HOW STUPID YOU ARE AND HOW YOU MUST BE ALL OVERLOOKING THE SAME PRINCIPLES OF SCIENTIFIC ENQUIRY BECAUSE YOUR MAIN ARGUMENTS THAT YOU USE SUCH AS THE RATE OF CURVATURE AND THE FLIGHT PATHS, DON'T ACTUALLY GIVE YOU A FLAT EARTH IF YOU ASSESS PROPERLY INSTEAD OF ASSESSING THEM AND INTERPRETING THEM IN A WAY THAT BEST SUITS YOU AND YOUR AGENDA I WILL HAPPILY DEBATE ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN TRAPPED OR PLAGUED BY THIS NONSENSICAL DISEASE OF THE MIND THAT IS THE FLAT EARTH THEORY. I WILL DO SO IN A CALM AND MATURE, AND CIVIL MANNER AND I BET YOU WILL BE BACK TO NORMAL AFTER, BECAUSE I AM CONFIDENT I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU HAVE MANAGED TO ARRIVE AT IDEA THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT, I HAVE READ A LOT OF THE CONTENT AND WATCHED A LOT OF THE SO CALLED DOCUMENTARIES ABOUT A HYPOTHETICAL FLAT EARTH AND I AM PRETTY SURE I KNOW WHERE YOU ALL HAVE GONE WRONG, AND I AM CONFIDENT THAT I KNOW VERY IMPORTANT FACTORS THAT YOU AREN'T TAKING INTO ACCOUNT. I ADMIT, WHEN I FIRST STUMBLED ACROSS A FLAT EARTH DOCUMENTARY AND WATCHED IT, AFTER I HAD SOME SERIOUS DOUBTS ABOUT THE EARTH AND THE WORLD AROUND US AND WAS INTRIGUED BY THE IDEA THAT THE EARTH COULD ACTUALLY BE FLAT, BUT AFTER ASSESSING ALL THE DATA PROPERLY I WAS EVEN MORE CONFIDENT THAT EARTH IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN A GLOBE AND NOT A DOME RIDING ON THE BACK OF A TURTLE IN OUTER SPACE. BUT I AM HAPPY TO DEBATE THIS ON ANY PLATFORM AT ANYTIME, BECAUSE THIS KIND OF THINKING WILL ONLY HOLD HUMANITY BACK. MANKIND IS AT A CRUCIAL AND VERY FRAGILE POINT RIGHT NOW, AND HAVING A BUNCH OF IDIOTS THAT ARE SAD THAT BECAUSE THEY FOUND OUT THEIR GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN LYING TO THEM SO ARE NOW OPEN TO THE IDEA THAT ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ABOUT LIFE AND EXISTENCE ITSELF MUST BE A LIE TO THEREFOR THE WORLD IS FLAT. I THINK THEREFOR I AM.
Hans S
Brock Henderson Said: "FUCK OFF YOU FLAT EARTH MORONS!", and subsequently he said: "I WILL HAPPILY DEBATE ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN TRAPPED OR PLAGUED BY THIS NONSENSICAL DISEASE OF THE MIND THAT IS THE FLAT EARTH THEORY."
 Are you getting NERVOUS, SATAN?

Stephan Vayda
First video tying the Jesuits and the globe earth deception and it is awesome thank you! Praise Yah!
Dave Klebt
hmmm. a "christian" order, devoted to christ, conspires to destroy christianity?
Eric Green
The devil's greatest trick is deceit, the Jesuits are using Jesus's name in the work of the devil. I believe they that deceive and try to trick people away from true salvation in Jesus have a very nasty fate in store for them! God bless!!
Dave Klebt
+Eric Green nah, the second to last person one should trust is a used car salesperson, and the least trustworthy is anyone who claims they know the mind of god. whether someone ends up in hell is not up to you, fortunately... whether hell actually exists cannot be proven. so why worry about it? at a certain point it becomes obvious that belief fails us in understanding reality. it is just as likely that your belief is the result of deceit, and that which you are worshiping is hiding the the opposite of what you think it is. anyhow, if there was/is a jesus he/she/it is a sign that points to god and not god itself. why worship a sign along the way?
Eric Green
+Dave Klebt I don't "trust" in any man aside from Jesus and really don't worry or think much on hell as I believe I'm saved by the blood (not literal as the Catholic believe) of Jesus! ~The lake of fire is also called the “second death” (Rev. 20:14; 21:8). In the Bible, death always speaks of separation, not cessation of existence. The idea behind death is not annihilation but rather the concept of eternal separation from God. Physical death is the first, where a person suffers because he is separated from his loved ones. The second death is the separation of a person from God. So I believe. YHWH bless you!!
Dave Klebt
oh, Revelations! that was not the words of "jesus." It may help to read only those words by this jesus dude and leave these other man-made inclusions where they belong - as speculative fiction. If god created all of this universe, then there is no way to have separation, this is impossible. if all is created by god and it is all of god, it is all god. you are free to believe, as any of the other 6 + billion people on this little round ball, along with all those the came before that believed in a 1000+ other ways to worship their conception of deity.
Hans S
Stephan Vayda Revelation 19:6 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
6 And I heard like a voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of strong thunderings, saying, Hallelujah: for the Lord that God that Almighty one hath reigned. HALLELU YAH
PRAISE YAH= I AM (that I AM)
JESUS-YESHUA is I AM Salvation




Scientific EVIDENCE of a Flat Earth

 

 

 

Jesuits Erasing our Flat Earth - Documentary

 

 

 

The Satanic Power Tree


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  1. +Brock Henderson
    You were much smarter when you were an embryo....poor wretch


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    Brock Henderson
    10:25 AM




    Yes, you caught me. I admire your intelligence and investigative abilities. How did you guess it. I'm Satan and I'm getting nervous. This is exactly the primitive superstitious nonsense I'm talking about. Next you people will be trying to burn people at the stake and screaming witchcraft.

    Tell me, does a globular earth make you nervous, peasant?

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    1. +Brock Henderson
      People with a GOD-COMPLEX always think that others are crazy.


      Btw: it's 'you're' and not 'your' as in 'your just completely crazy'

      And English isn't even my first language but Dutch..

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      Brock Henderson
      10:32 AM




      OK so your just completely crazy.

      Does Satan ever talk back?

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    2. +Brock Henderson
      It's not just a few videos on YouTube that made me believe we've been LIED TO by so called 'scientists'
      and 'authorities': it has been a LONG PROCESS of having discovered BIG FAT LIES by so called 'scientists' and 'authorities' who are making MONEY out of telling LIES and teaching FAIRY TALES to school children and students, and the public in general through the Vatican controlled mass media, so that the ROMAN EMPIRE = the VATICAN, can continue it's DEMONIC rule over IGNORANT and BRAINWASHED people.

      What this SATANIC Vatican can't use is people who are willing to believe in the Biblical TRUTH, and who are no longer willing to listen to LIARS and CON ARTISTS like the people of NASA, who are being controlled by the satanic JESUITS.

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      Brock Henderson
      4:19 PM




      I mean, can any of you even grasp just how dangerous it is, that a few videos on Youtube managed to shatter one of your fundamental beliefs, one that serves as part of the foundation that enables you to build a reality about life in general. These almost instinctual knowings are considered common sense in the 21st century, people in modern times rarely bring into question something as important as that, it would be similar to questioning the colour of the sky or whether you're an extra-terrestrial hiding in a human form.

      To think that someone could let go of that kind of belief because of a few Youtube videos, and then allow it to be replaced with something that has no evidence to support, and very poor and bias experimentation carried out in the least scientific ways possible, without controlled environments and most importantly without an advanced understanding of the scientific principles and theories that are attempted to be used to construct and explain the experiment and any findings. How gullible does one have to be to let this happen to them without any proper enquiry.

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    3. +Brock Henderson
      Your problem is that you're LACKING what I've got: a relationship with the smartest scientist in history; God almighty in the person of JESUS.

      And JESUS and I are TOGETHER in this.
      Just recently He decided that I was ready to take another leap in faith, and so I was able to LEAVE the wrong concept of a ball-shaped earth behind me, and accept the BIBLICAL truth of a round, flat earth.
      The Earth is FLAT ~The planes help to prove the plane
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNVgzk3tbl0

      I wouldn't be surprised if you are a Jesuit or a CIA-trained person who is being sent to try to put doubts into the hearts and minds of adherents of the round and flat earth TRUTH.

      Yes, there are good and descent scientists like the MANY THOUSANDS who REJECT the 'climate change' LIES of their (Vatican controlled) colleagues.

      PS: it wasn't a YouTube video that persuaded me to take the flat earth concept seriously, but a fellow believer in JESUS, THROUGH her video.
      It's about PEOPLE and NOT about the 'vehicle' like a video-sharing site.

      Now I know that you don't like this development and that's why the EVIL government recently handed over the internet control to a FOREIGN organization, which will eventually BAN flat earth videos and other TRUTH videos in the near future.

      And when this will happen you can smile again....

      You're lost without JESUS Christ!

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      Brock Henderson
      Yesterday 8:19 PM




      Well if you don't believe that Youtube videos were the reason to why you believe this, then ask yourself a hypothetical question - "If Youtube never had Flat Earth videos and you continued your life exactly the same up until now, would you have ever come across the theory of Flat Earth?".
      If you answer the question with something like "oh but I would have discovered it another way if Youtube didn't have them" then you are in denial.

      I am not disputing most of the points you make. I don't dispute that Governments have lied, I don't dispute that Nasa lies and acts in ways I even consider odd. I don't dispute that the education systems have spoon fed us nonsense and mostly just indoctrinated children to accept the status quo. I don't dispute that corporate and political corruption is the biggest cause of wealth disparity. I would even go as far to agree that the Catholic Church could be categorised by a religious person or theological stand point as 'Satanic'.

      What I do dispute however is that Nasa only lies, and Scientists in general lie and shouldn't be trusted. Sure there are small groups of scientists that manipulate data or lie to serve a financial interest, but generally scientists are genuine in their enquiries and formulating their results. If scientific deception was as bad as you claim, there would be a considerable amount of outcry from the general public. People generally aren't stupid and a large portion of people are scientifically minded and can generally fact check most of what is written in scientific literature.

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    4. To suggest that the entire scientific establishment and 95% of the layman scientific population are all complete liars and behind a conspiracy of this magnitude is ABSURD and certainly not rational. It would take millions of people to be in on it, a conspiracy of this scale is not possible by human standards. People have a hard enough time successfully keeping a secret from friends and family, let alone millions of people I mean it is just outrageous to think such a thing could be possible, even if you believe 'Satan' or some other demon or God is part of it..

      As for all your religious jargon about Jesuits and Satan and a so called biblical truth, well therein lies the problem of why you will struggle to understand anyone that will argue the contrary to a Flat Earth. You don't have the capacity to think critically and step outside the parameters of your current beliefs to asses the situation rationally. You claim that Satan and the Catholic Church and the Jesuits are to blame for certain things, but you have no proof at all that this could be taking place. All you have is very irrational speculations and conjecture upon conjecture made up of logical fallacies, none of which anyone should form beliefs on.

      Can you seriously not step back for a moment to see how everything you believe about the so called is 'Flat Earth' is irrational and illogical in so many different ways?

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    5. inptn
      11:49 AM
      Scientistic atheists have no problem claiming that religious orders basically controlled the world
      in past history and that science was shut down through their control but if you try to claim that science is now the one controlling the world and feeding everyone lies they act like it's impossible. Your hypocrisy is so obvious to anyone with half a brain.

      Hans S
      11:54 AM




      +inptn
      word!

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  2. Barrack Obama (Barry Davis Soetoro) Exposed - by Eric Jon Phelps
    ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl
    Barrack Obama (Barry Davis Soetoro) Exposed - by Eric Jon Phelps Published on May 4, 2014 The fact is Zbign...
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    he's the creepiest
    Hans S
    8:36 PM




    +Ellen Jirasek
    After the Pope! https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Oy52yJ_glAk/V_IDy2yVSWI/AAAAAAAAmgo/fRMpCWKTuVQ2ppxgoi1-njwXpTWSlvijQCEw/s1600/Flat%2BEarth%253B%2BExposing%2Bthe%2BJesuit%2BAgenda%2521%2B5.png

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    1. +Ellen Jirasek
      Really?
      https://www.google.nl/search?q=%27give+a+fly+a+chance%27+flyswatter&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=OqzyV9bGB4PZ-wG_irTYBg

      Well sometimes I catch an annoying fly with a glass and a piece of paper, like in this example: http://pad3.whstatic.com/images/thumb/0/05/Catch-a-Fly-Step-7-Version-2.jpg/aid688393-728px-Catch-a-Fly-Step-7-Version-2.jpg and I put it outside let it free.

      More ideas: http://www.wikihow.com/Catch-Flies

      Barry Davis (Obama) is just a lost person and he's younger than me, and unfortunately he's NOT on our and JESUS' side, but on Satan's side.

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      +Hans S
      did you know that Barack Obama invented the 'give a fly a chance' flyswatter?!

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  3. +Dave Klebt
    God is the inventor of the human brain and of the human intellect and not the Jesuits or Satan.

    If I'm able to convince a fellow human of their lostness without JESUS which will lead to a real surrender to Him, then I'm really doing something substantial.
    You don't want to be saved, so I'll go to the next person.

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    Dave Klebt
    3:40 AM




    +Hans S Belief has nothing to do with science... God may exist, and god may not exist. if god does exist, i am certain you do not understand whatever is in the mind of god.

    Meanwhile back on the spinning spherical earth, where we have not evidence of god, following fantastical notions of conspiracy, lead one to more delusions.

    why not just focus on something this that is more meaningful, like having some shoes, or doing something helpful for you neighbor?

    if the Jesuits assisted in fostering the scientific method, that appears to be a good thing. your computer and internet resulted from this... enjoy the fruits of science my friend.

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  4. +TheLance3185
    God's existence is a FACT.
    So you're talking nonsense.

    Get rid of your god-complex and get saved by JESUS, because He is GOD.

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    TheLance3185
    10:32 AM




    Hans S. Humans created deities. We need not be saved except from ourselves.

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  5. Dear God-deniers, atheists,
    the earth is flat and you are lost without the creator, JESUS Christ.

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    1. +Luis Gutierrez
      Let the God-deniers debate with God-the Lord JESUS.

      I'm a flat earther since October 1, 2016 and before that I already believed in the Biblical Geo-centric model since 2013, and before that I was just as deceived as many others and I used to believe in the wrong Heliocentric model before and after my surrender to JESUS in January 1984.
      I used to be a God/deity-denier and only God=JESUS was able to convince me.
      But he used creationists to make me DOUBT.
      So I'm telling the unbelievers the truth and pray that they will doubt their evolution RELIGION.

      Be blessed and the Lord JESUS is with us!
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      Hans S
      +Luis Gutierrez The JESUITS are behind all the lies: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/10/flat-earth-exposing-jesuit-agenda-are.htmlk

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    2. +Luis Gutierrez
      Yes, and the goal is Lucifer worship
      : http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/04/the-satanic-power-tree.html

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  6. +Dethas1991
    What's your real name?


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    Hans S
    Jan 22, 2017




    MomoTheBellyDancer
    You're a loser because you want to win a debate and it's not about wining or losing but about the truth.
    The earth is flat with a dome.
    That's a fact.
    God exists.
    That's a fact.
    I don't feel the need or the obligation to explain it to anyone and especially not to people who deny it.
    I became a believer in God because the theory of evolution was based on lies.
    I became a believer in a stationary earth and the geocentric model because the heliocentric model is based on lies, because there is no solar system.
    I became a believer in the flat earth because NASA is a Vatican controlled organization which propagates the globe earth lie and they are being controlled by Luciferians called the JESUITS.
    Everything within our perceptible dimension exists and takes place within a DOME.
    This dome is supernatural in origin and so it doesn't need to be explained, because God is the creator of it.
    God exists and His name is JESUS and He doesn't need to be explained, because He's reality.
    God deniers deny His existence and also His creation, including the flat earth with a dome.
    It's NO use trying to convince God-deniers flat earth-deniers.
    Faith is a GIFT of God:

    Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

    You don't own this gift so you can only LIE.

    You're lost without JESUS Christ.
    Get to know Him and SEE the truth.
    Dethas1991
    6:28 PM




    +Hans S https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact - read it and then edit your last comment :)

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    1. +Dethas1991
      Because I'm Hans from the Netherlands, 57 years old/young
      , and I don't like to be told what I'm supposed to do by anonymous persons.

      Something else: are you saved by JESUS?

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      Dethas1991
      7:07 PM




      +Hans S it's Patric, why do you ask?

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    2. +Dethas1991
      God exists, that's a FACT.

      The earth is flat with a dome: that's a FACT.
      We're lost without JESUS Christ: that's a FACT.

      You talk about age.
      I only said that I'm 57 to point out that I'm not BRAINLESS, because you want to LECTURE me about what is FACTUAL.

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      Dethas1991
      7:19 PM




      +Hans S i only wanted to point out that you don't know what "fact "is, so your statements are just false. And you can learn things at any age, so your age is irrelevant here.

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    3. +MomoTheBellyDancer
      No then you prove that you are on the devil's side and a LIAR.

      And that you're gonna BURN in HELL unless you'll surrender to your own creator JESUS!

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      MomoTheBellyDancer
      9:26 AM




      +Hans S
      I don't have to prove the obvious and what's factual."

      If you can't prove it, then it's obviously not factual.

      "DISPROVE the existence of the God of the Bible."

      You claim this god exists, so you have the burden of proof, not me.

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  7. +dan lo
    Of course this can't stop the Vatican-Jesuit controlled NWO because the belief system it represents derives from Babylon
    and in Babylon everybody knew the the earth is circular and flat.
    Only JESUS Christ will and can stop the devil and his satanic NWO.

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    dan lo
    3:49 PM




    i doult this will stop the nwo its going to happen look up agenda 2030

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  8. +Dave Klebt
    JESUS is GOD, manifested in the flesh:


    1 Timothy 3:16 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
    16 And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness, which is, God is manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of Angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, and received up in glory.

    IS JESUS "GOD?" - In 5 Minutes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa-dzR943po

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    First video tying the Jesuits and the globe earth deception and it is awesome thank you! Praise Yah!
    Flat Earth: Exposing the Jesuit Agenda!
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    hmmm. a "christian" order, devoted to christ, conspires to destroy christianity?
    Eric Green
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    The devil's greatest trick is deceit, the Jesuits are using Jesus's name in the work of the devil. I believe they that deceive and try to trick people away from true salvation in Jesus have a very nasty fate in store for them! God bless!!
    Dave Klebt
    Sep 4, 2016




    +Eric Green nah, the second to last person one should trust is a used car salesperson, and the least trustworthy is anyone who claims they know the mind of god. whether someone ends up in hell is not up to you, fortunately...

    whether hell actually exists cannot be proven. so why worry about it?

    at a certain point it becomes obvious that belief fails us in understanding reality.

    it is just as likely that your belief is the result of deceit, and that which you are worshiping is hiding the the opposite of what you think it is.

    anyhow, if there was/is a jesus he/she/it is a sign that points to god and not god itself. why worship a sign along the way?
    Eric Green
    Sep 4, 2016




    +Dave Klebt I don't "trust" in any man aside from Jesus and really don't worry or think much on hell as I believe I'm saved by the blood (not literal as the Catholic believe) of Jesus! ~The lake of fire is also called the “second death” (Rev. 20:14; 21:8). In the Bible, death always speaks of separation, not cessation of existence.
    The idea behind death is not annihilation but rather the concept of eternal separation from God. Physical death is the first, where a person suffers because he is separated from his loved ones. The second death is the separation of a person from God. So I believe.
    YHWH bless you!!
    Dave Klebt
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    oh, Revelations! that was not the words of "jesus." It may help to read only those words by this jesus dude and leave these other man-made inclusions where they belong - as speculative fiction.

    If god created all of this universe, then there is no way to have separation, this is impossible. if all is created by god and it is all of god, it is all god.

    you are free to believe, as any of the other 6 + billion people on this little round ball, along with all those the came before that believed in a 1000+ other ways to worship their conception of deity.
    Hans S
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    Stephan Vayda
    Revelation 19:6 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
    6 And I heard like
    a voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as
    the voice of strong thunderings, saying, Hallelujah: for the Lord that
    God that Almighty one hath reigned.
    HALLELU YAH
    PRAISE YAH= I AM (that I AM)
    JESUS-YESHUA is I AM Salvation
    Peter Lee
    Oct 3, 2016




    second time you are too happy, for spurious reasons.....found your hobby, have you?¿
    Dave Klebt
    Nov 3, 2016




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    1. +Hans S you ate a bad mushroom and had an hallucination.
      Hans S
      Nov 3, 2016




      +Dave Klebt
      and you ate your own shit and had a brain implosion
      Dave Klebt
      Nov 4, 2016




      +Hans S once again, you let your fantasy get the better of you.
      Hans S
      Nov 4, 2016




      +Dave Klebt
      You said something stupid and I gave a stupid response..that's all.
      But did you actually watch the video 'Flat Earth: Exposing the Jesuit Agenda!'?
      Dave Klebt
      Nov 4, 2016




      i just followed your logic. yes, of course i watched 'Flat Earth: Exposing the Jesuit Agenda!'. it is filled with what is referred to as "ostensible reasoning." this is when you accept what "seems to be" as actual reality. typically the cynic will refer this as bovine scatology, and the more reasonable will point out the obvious lack of of a cohesive argument that can be demonstrated with "actual" evidence. unfortunately, none of these flat earth philosophies actually can produce any actual evidence.

      we are all waiting on FE'er to produce - even the smallest - iota of proof.
      Hans S
      Nov 4, 2016




      +Dave Klebt
      You just don't want to believe in the God of the Bible, even if someone would provide the best possible proof.
      Dave Klebt
      Nov 20, 2016




      +Hans S Belief has nothing to do with science... God may exist, and god may not exist. if god does exist, i am certain you do not understand whatever is in the mind of god.

      Meanwhile back on the spinning spherical earth, where we have not evidence of god, following fantastical notions of conspiracy, lead one to more delusions.

      why not just focus on something this that is more meaningful, like having some shoes, or doing something helpful for you neighbor?

      if the Jesuits assisted in fostering the scientific method, that appears to be a good thing. your computer and internet resulted from this... enjoy the fruits of science my friend.
      Hans S
      Nov 20, 2016




      +Dave Klebt
      God is the inventor of the human brain and of the human intellect and not the Jesuits or Satan.
      If I'm able to convince a fellow human of their lostness without JESUS which will lead to a real surrender to Him, then I'm really doing something substantial.
      You don't want to be saved, so I'll go to the next person.
      Dave Klebt
      Nov 21, 2016




      In order to accept your conjecture, one would have to accept a belief in god. We do know that the Jesuits are an order that worships that same god you think invented the human brain.

      As far as the concept of satan goes, we know that the bible states he is the deceiver, so as far as we know you could be deceived not by the Jesuits but by whatever goof ball tele-evangelists or fundamentalist preacher you are listening to.. Or even perhaps you, yourself, are that deceiving fundamentalist hiding in the light... You say you want to save someone, perhaps save me, but really you easily could be the opposite of what you claim to be.

      Here is what we have learned so far - there are two type of person that should never be trusted, first is a used car salesman, and second someone that claim they know what god is telling them.

      There are ways to reach people, and it is through acts of kindness, humility, and assistance with simple things. If you expect someone to listen to your rhetoric, and accept your elocution, then you will need more skill than you are demonstrating here.

      Save yourself, and be kind and gentle to the non-believers...
      TheLance3185
      Jan 20, 2017




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    2. Hans S. Humans created deities. We need not be saved except from ourselves.
      Hans S
      Jan 20, 2017




      +TheLance3185
      God's existence is a FACT.
      So you're talking nonsense.
      Get rid of your god-complex and get saved by JESUS, because He is GOD.
      Dave Klebt
      Jan 20, 2017




      +Hans S jesus is a sign post the points to god... why worship a sign post?
      Hans S
      Jan 20, 2017




      +Dave Klebt
      JESUS is GOD: the beginning and the end
      Dave Klebt
      Jan 21, 2017




      maybe, but we are here in the middle. the beginning and end are so dang remotely far as to be non-existent...
      Winston Churchill
      Mar 3, 2017




      Jesus is not God. That is a doctrine of evil men that came out of the 4th century. God is only one, not a trinity. See Deuteronomy 18:18 and 6:4.
      Moongold7
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      Sorry, but that is definitely what God's Word, the Holy Bible says! I think I'd rather believe God of all Creation rather than you, just one speck of that Creation!

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  9. +Philippe Rockholt Always the JESUITS!
    This is interesting: University of Hidden History - Eric Jon Phelps - Jesuits 101 #3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSpS-ZRqOxg
    I've already listened to part 1 & 2.
    Yes, you're right about 'space' beyond this flat earth system with a firmament and with a lot underneath. http://robschannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/HebrewConceptEarth.jpg
    The Bible is the best starting point for science, though it's not a science book.

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    I have that link. Great website
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    Check this out.
    Photo https://plus.google.com/photos/photo/118071688780157607868/6422279899223336546?icm=true
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    The author of the article speaks as he believes space actually exist, but we just haven't been able to get there. To me that is nonsense. Once you establish that the earth is flat, all space science is out of the window into the garbage. You cannot possibly have a flat geocentric model floating into space. Another medium such as water would make sense as it is often described in the Scriptures.

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