maandag 21 november 2016

Pre Wrath Rapture?



Published on Aug 22, 2015
Missionary Evangelist Brother Robert Breaker looks at the modern teaching of the "Pre-Wrath Rapture" in light of the scriptures, comparing it with the teaching of the Pre-tribulation rapture.


Excellent teaching and every believer in JESUS should know this, but also what I've pointed out about the right translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 concerning the RAPTURE.

6:09 WRONG: APOSTASIA is Greek for DEPARTURE or DEPARTING and this word has NOTHING to do with the ENGLISH word apostasy.
This is the right translation:

2 Thessalonians 2:3 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition.

This is the WRONG translation:

2 Thessalonians 2:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition

This translation is also correct in this respect:

2 Thessalonians 2:3 World English Bible (WEB)
3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction

Because people idolize the MASONIC King James Version 1611 http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/07/king-james-bible-1611-is-masonic.html , they don't want to know about the BETTER Geneva Bible 1599 https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/11/geneva-bible-1599.html#more

The DEPARTURE or A DEPARTING is the pre-Jacob's Trouble-RAPTURE



Robert Breaker also talks a lot about 'the church' while he should be talking about the BODY OF CHRIST.

This is VERY IMPORTANT!

WORDS are IMAGES: the word 'church' associates (in the minds of many people) with the IMAGE of a CHURCH BUILDING.

The term BODY OF CHRIST can ONLY generate the IMAGE of the ACTUAL BODY of CHRIST JESUS and He Himself is THE HEAD!

We are MEMBERS of the BODY of JESUS CHRIST.

That sounds TOTALLY different than 'we are members of the church'.

Many people also don't know where the word 'church' is deriving from:

The word CHURCH derives from the word CIRCLE or CIRCUS! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/09/the-word-church-derives-from-word.html

It's a ROMAN CATHOLIC WORD!

But because its well known and shorter than the term 'the Body of Christ, many people (with a Christian-religious background) tend to stick to the word 'church'.

Not so when we use the correct word 'assembly' for a local meeting of JESUS-worshipers, or 'the Body of Christ' for the JESUS-worshipers who live all over the world.

In this respect I like the World English Bible better than the Geneva Bible which uses both the words 'church' and 'assembly' https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?qs_version=GNV&quicksearch=assembly&startnumber=53

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?qs_version=GNV&quicksearch=church&startnumber=57

while the WEB uses only the word 'assembly': https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?qs_version=WEB&quicksearch=assembly&startnumber=119

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=church&qs_version=WEB












Because many believers think the Body of Christ started at Pentecost, the result is the following, in the interest of the Roman Catholic DEATH CULT church:

7 opmerkingen:


  1. +Zone Television Media
    This is the RIGHT translation:

    Matthew 5:48 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
    48 Ye shall therefore be perfect, as your Father which is in heaven, is perfect.

    Ye SHALL therefore BE perfect.

    Follow the RIGHT gospel of Paul on behalf of JESUS: Jesus vs Paul - a VERY IMPORTANT message! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/07/jesus-vs-paul-very-important-message.html
    Zone Television Media
    Yesterday 12:43 AM




    +Hans S the Geneva bible is not my bible I study KJV and Strongs exhaustive concordance with the original Greek and Hebrew text and (some times) I refer to other translations 
    Hans S
    Yesterday 2:48 AM




    +Zone Television Media
    I'm here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/Y9moJtVMyJa

    ===

    Zone Television Media
    Yesterday 12:10 AM




    +Hans S I'm not nor I have I ever been Catholic ...
    and no it is not Catholic doctrine.

    Catholic doctrine states that all people are "sinners" and that all you have to do is go and confess you sins to a priest and you are absolved .. (this is what most catholic/Christians believe) (this gives people a license to go out and sin more)

    Sin is only forgiven as it is forsaken.

    "Be ye therefore perfect even as you father which is in heaven is perfect"

    It's a call to action.

    I'd encourage you to watch my documentary
    https://youtu.be/DfTx_8iZ3KA

    BeantwoordenVerwijderen
  2. +Guillerm Arment
    You're a troll with a face profile picture and you're a MORON!
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeorj1Vl5RhS0b8OMH4CPmw
    And most of all: you're lost without JESUS Christ.

    ===

    Frank Gordon
    Sep 4, 2016




    +herbbearingseed ... You are clueless !! Go to ... doctrine (DOT) org ... for the truth of what the bible says !!
    Hans S
    5:53 AM




    The King James Version 1611 is MASONIC!
    Read the Geneva Bible 1599.

    6:09 WRONG: APOSTASIA is Greek for DEPARTURE or DEPARTING and this word has NOTHING to do with the ENGLISH word apostasy.
    This is the right translation:

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
    3
    Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
    except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be
    disclosed, even the son of perdition.

    This is the WRONG translation:

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 King James Version (KJV)
    3
    Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
    except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed,
    the son of perdition

    This translation is also correct in this respect:

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 World English Bible (WEB)
    3
    Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the
    departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of
    destruction

    Because people idolize the MASONIC King James Version 1611, they don't want to know about the BETTER Geneva Bible 1599

    The DEPARTURE or A DEPARTING is the pre-Jacob's Trouble-RAPTURE
    Guillerm Arment
    4:36 PM




    Hans S hahaha nice try, the pre wrath rapture is no base in one VERSUS, and changing the word APOSTASY is like the witness of j changing things in the Bible.. this is so Sad..

    BeantwoordenVerwijderen
  3. +Sam Sandilla
    And in case all believers in JESUS would know this, then they would realize that the Time Of Jacob's Trouble can never refer to the members of the Body of Christ
    but to the Jews and the future believers in JESUS during that time of great tribulation: Pre Wrath Rapture? http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/11/pre-wrath-rapture.html

    ===

    Mary Britzman commented on a video on YouTube.
    Shared publicly - Dec 14, 2015

    Not one Post trib can ever answer this question for me. They just say well don't worry about the future. Satan has wanted to do nothing but to rid the jews from the earth now he is trying to deceived the church to believe that they have replaced the Jews. No the Jew are still God's chosen people. Just like a pastor said the other day there will be apostasy in the last days and this is the apostasy of all. Good vid thanks for sharing.
    Post trib rapture is a satanic deception
    Hans S's profile photoSam Sandilla's profile photo
    Hide comments
    THERAPTURECOMES
    Dec 14, 2015




    +Mary Britzman I am being told that agroup of people that have refused the mark and have refused to believe upon Jesus are the people that are going into the 1000 year rule.

    How anyone can believe that is beyond me
    Mary Britzman
    Dec 15, 2015+
    1
    0
    1

    +THERAPTURECOMES MY take is a little different I believe the people that refuse the mark, live and find Jesus will be the people that will re-populate the earth for the 1000 reign. God Bless 
    THERAPTURECOMES
    Dec 15, 2015+
    1
    2
    1

    +Mary Britzman Again, you and others miss this key point. At the time of Jesus return there will be only two groups 1) those that have taken the mark and those that have not.

    No one is stupid enough to say at this point in future history that would go to their deaths if they do not believe.

    If they do not believe they will take the mark because no one is going to die over something they do not believe in.

    At His return all who believe will EITHER go into the 1000 years OR be resurrected / raptured

    GET IT
    Hans S
    Dec 16, 2015




    +Mary Britzman I'm calling the pre-tribulation-rapture, the pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-rapture.
    The Jewish people NEVER CEASED to be God's chosen people! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2014/04/the-jewish-people-never-ceased-to-be.html
    Gospel of GRACE http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/search/label/Gospel%20of%20GRACE
    Mysterious Body of Christ http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/search/label/Mysterious%20Body%20of%20Christ
    The Lord JESUS is with us!
    Sam Sandilla
    10:39 AM+
    1
    0
    1


    BeantwoordenVerwijderen
    Reacties
    1. apostasy could be translated ( disappear) the Greek noun apostasia is only used twice in the New Testament. 2 Thessalonians 2:3, it occurs in Acts 21:21 where, speaking of Paul, it is said, " that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake (apostasia)Moses." The word is a Greek compound of apo " from" and istemi " stand." Thus, it has the core meaning of " away from" or " departure." The Liddell and Scott Greek Lexicon defines apostasia first as " defection, revolt;" then secondly as " departure, disappearance." verb may mean to remove spatially.here the verb is used fifteen times in the New Testament. Of these fifteen, only three have anything to do with a departure from the faith (Luke 8;13; 1 Tim. 4:1; Heb 3:12). The word is used for departing from iniquity (2 Tim. 2:19), from ungodly men(1 Tim. 6:5), from the temple (Luke 2:27), from the body (2 Cor. 12:8), and from persons (Acts 12:10; Luke 4:13).2
      the catholic church later on changed it to mean "revolt " it as "departing from the faith because they was a feuding with the protestants when translating the bible from the Lain Vulgate. the King James people left it as "departing from the faith". the first trans. fits perfectly i believe with 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as disappearance just before antichrist is about to come on the scene. and it's clear he cannot come until the we are gone first and that the Holy Spirit is holding him back. people have always been apostasy from the faith (those that thought they were Christians but just play acted )and thee antichrist didn't appear. this is for a specific time in all history never to happen again.
      Sam Sandilla
      10:46 AM+
      1
      0
      1

      yes .an non believers wouldn't have the strength to resist antichrist anyhow. he will want to eat and support his family buy /sell so on. if it's fairly easy to accept the Lord now__ it's going to be almost impossible then to with all the disasters going on and the pressures they will be under will be unbearable . the cost for discipleship then will be either beheading by death or possibly imprisonment. i think the former more so when those that will __will resist him.

      Verwijderen
  4. Reacties
    1. My response: The Body of Christ will be gone after Revelation 3. The Body of Christ has NOTHING to do with the opening of the Seals.

      ===

      God's Wrath Is When!?
      Jagd Tiger1 day ago
      http://endtimesforecaster.blogspot.com/2016/11/gods-wrath-is-when.html
      1
      Donna Diggzzz
      Donna Diggzzz1 day ago
      Wow ! Just simply incredible "how close" we are ! I am so very excited........YEE-HAW

      Verwijderen
    2. PS: satanic Google(+) (and Blogger is also of Google) is threatening me that I'm not allowed to share on my site what has been said elsewhere IN PUBLIC on THEIR sites, like Google+ and YouTube and by doing so they are trying to KILL my freedom of speech and my freedom of expression.

      I consider EVERYTHING that's been said in PUBLIC free domain, otherwise people shouldn't share it on the WORLD WIDE WEB, but Google and other organizations are busy trying to make the ENTIRE INTERNET CLOSED DOMAIN so that they can RULE over EVERY INDIVIDUAL and keep them in check...on behalf of the DEVIL and the VATICAN and the POPE!

      Verwijderen

Zie: HTML-tags in reacties toepassen en open met deze link een nieuw tabblad of nieuwe pagina om de aanwijzingen te kunnen raadplegen.