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Rejecting 'I AM SALVATION' is SELF DESTRUCTION!




Satan is a LIAR!
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  • TripMaster Monkey's profile photo
    "Satan" doesn't exist any more than your "Jesus" does.
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  • Adliad Adliad's profile photo
    And so are you by believing in fairy tales
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  • NYCvictor's profile photo
    What character in the bible willingly takes credit for mass slaughter including the drowning of many millions of people, bashing babies against rocks, and the rape and enslavement of young virgins? Ya' can't point fingers at Mr. Satan!
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  • Ellif D'Wulfe's profile photo
    Taken from the "blog" that +Hans S links to:

    "But who controls this MONSTER?


    GOD, aka JESUS!!

    God is the hand and Satan is the shadow and God determines where the shadow of the hand may go...

    You'd better be on God's side or you will PERISH!"

    So hes not arguing that Satan is a liar, but more than his God is a like a mafia crime boss running a protection racket


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  • Hans S's profile photo
    +Ellif D'Wulfe You don't get it: whether Satan=adversary likes it or not, he's still a SERVANT, and though God=JESUS doesn't agree with Satan's thoughts and deeds, He's still using him for His purpose.

    And meanwhile you don't see that Satan is using YOU!!!!!!!!
    You're a useful idiot to him.
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  • Ellif D'Wulfe's profile photo
    +Hans S "You don't get it: whether Satan=adversary likes it or not, he's still a SERVANT,"
    I think it's you that doesn't get it, because pointing out your God is like a crime boss running a protection racket hinges on Satan being a servant.

    "and though God=JESUS doesn't agree with Satan's thoughts and deeds,"
    And the crime boss doesn't like the actions of those ruffians and vandals who will smash in shop windows, steal or set fire to your home. But they're serving his purpose because you do what he wants so you suffer an "accident" at their hands.

    "And meanwhile you don't see that Satan is using YOU!!!!!!!!
    You're a useful idiot to him."
    Because it's easier (and lazy) for yo to just argue someone's of satan (despite previously arguing satan is your God's servant and under his control) than actually refute what they say.
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  • David Eriol Hickman's profile photo
    ''Satan'' is a lie.

    fixed for accuracy
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  • Joe Gross's profile photo
    Let's think about this for a moment.

    God made everything and controls everything by the standards written in the bible.
    God made Satan so therefore controls his actions.
    Your inference is that Satan is a liar.
    So by logical deduction Satan can only be a liar because god makes him lie.

    So therefore god is a liar
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  • S Mackay's profile photo
    Satan killed less people than your God in the Bible, you worship the bad guy ­čśé­čśé
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  • Hans S's profile photo
    +Joe Gross So God created you as a LIAR?
    Have you ever heard of FREE WILL, atheist?

    Satan=adversary was created as a GOOD ANGEL!

    But he CHOSE to go AGAINST his maker, and fallen angels can only make ONE mistake and then they're LOST forever because JESUS = God didn't shed His BLOOD for fallen angels.

    A sickly jealous morning star http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/09/a-sickly-jealous-morning-star.html
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  • Hans S's profile photo
    +S Mackay Satan isn't allowed to kill even ONE human being or else he will BURN IMMEDIATELY FOREVER.

    When God ENDS people's existence in THIS dimension between heaven and hell, it's a JUDGMENT.

    Atheist HATE God because they don't like to be JUDGED by their OWN maker.

    Yet God has already turned them into MORTALS, which is a DEATH SENTENCE!











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  • S Mackay's profile photo
    +Hans S their makers are their parents not your genocidal God.
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  • Joe Gross's profile photo
    +Hans S you're reply is incorrect.
    The free will covenant only pertains to humans so it's irrelevant in this.
    Also the timeline stated in the bible has thar happening well after "the fall", so again it's not applicable.

    But the bible plainly states that god is omnipotent and controls all.
    But as you've pointed out, he couldn't control Satan and other angels.

    Which means god isn't omnipotent and all powerful.

    So +Hans S​ what's the truth?
    Is god all powerful and in control of his creation or not?
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  • NYCvictor's profile photo
    "Satan=adversary was created as a GOOD ANGEL!"

    So you're saying "God," claimed to know everything everybody in heaven and earth will do or say, got suckered by one of his creations.
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  • Hans S's profile photo
    +NYCvictor Of course God knows EVERYTHING in ADVANCE, why else do you think the Bible has been written on behalf of Him and why else do we already now how it all will end?

    Just go to the last book of the Bible!
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    +Hans S
    So you admit the supposedly all knowing "God" got punked by 'Satan.'

    What a chump.
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  • Joe Gross's profile photo
    +NYCvictor that's a salient point.
    If god is the most powerful being, how did Satan go against gods will?

    Did god allow it?
    Did god not know?
    Or is Satan more powerful than god?

    So +Hans S​, which is it?
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    +NYCvictor Of course not, PUNK!
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  • Hans S's profile photo
    +Joe Gross The SIMPLE answer is: God allowed it, because He doesn't want to be served and loved by entities who PRETEND to love Him.
    The consequence is that His FULL WRATH is upon those entities, so this goes for you too.

    God will TORTURE you FOREVER in His SUPERNATURAL lake of fire in which you will be cast with a SUPERNATURAL BODY that can sense PAIN.

    Why?

    Because ALL people are meant to be LIKE the angels, which are SUPERNATURAL BEINGS with SUPERNATURAL BODIES.

    There's ONLY ONE way to escape this HORRIFIC FATE and that's to surrender to JESUS: God manifested in the flesh/human capacity.

    He was TORTURED and MURDERED in (y)our place so that we could be forgiven and He shed His ATONING BLOOD for us.

    Rejecting this offer of UNDESERVED eternal GRACE is worse than committing SUICIDE.

    The name JESUS means 'I AM SALVATION'.

    Rejecting 'I AM SALVATION' is SELF DESTRUCTION!

    Atheists are just as EVIL as SUICIDE BOMBERS!

    But ALL people are EVIL who reject God's offer of GRACE!

    They DESERVE to ROT in HELL!

    They are like DEMONS!

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  1. +Joe Gross
    incorrect. (You are INCORRECT)

    The entire premise of Genisis is hinged on the fealty of gods creation.
    (It's GeNEsis, but okay..God has the RIGHT to check whether His human creatures are OBEDIENT or not, and the circumstances were PERFECT and the first two humans had not yet SINNED, and they were WITHOUT sin)
    Angels were expected and designed to be his slaves and serve him in an unquestionable fashion.
    (Angels are supernatural SERVANTS with a FREE WILL!)
    Adam and Eve were forbidden knowledge in order to keep them complacent to him.
    (Adam and Eve did NOT have to know the knowledge of GOOD and EVIL in order to remain HAPPY FOREVER)

    Every single instance up to the eating of the apple was designed with the utmost fealty in mind.
    (God's relationship with His creations is based on LOVE and not on FEALTY: those who LOVE God=JESUS, are willing to OBEY Him and to SERVE Him and each other)
    And you have yet to answer a single question I've put forth.
    Is god omnipotent?
    (YES!)
    Can he be omnipotent if Satan stood against him?
    (YES!)
    If so, does that make Satan the more powerful entity because he stood against god omnipotence?
    (No: because God knew in ADVANCE that a creature like the former angel Morning Star/Light Bearer=LUCIFER COULD rebel against Him and because of this He created EARTH and the ANIMALS after the creation of the ANGELS, and BEFORE the creation of the first two HUMANS: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/09/a-sickly-jealous-morning-star.html )

    If god is all knowing and all poweful, why did he not see both Satans rebellion or Eves temptation and negate it in the first place?
    (It had to happen that way because it's about a WAR between GOOD and EVIL!)

    Instead of rhetoric, just answer these simple questions.
    Abuse of cap lock is optional
    (I answer the way I want on my OWN thread)

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    1. +Jesus Christ God=JESUS Christ in human capacity will TORTURE FOREVER demonic entities who DARE to call themselves 'Jesus Christ'.

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      +Hans S Will God punish masturbators?
      You have gone TOO FAR and there is NO HOPE for you, SATAN=adversary!

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    2. I have blocked the entity who dared to call him/her/itself 'Jesus Christ'

      This entity will BURN in HELL FOREVER!

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    3. +Michael o'donnell No, you're not Satan=adversary, but you ARE AN adversary of God-the Lord JESUS!
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      Hans S
      +Pretty Fly I know atheists don't have the FEAR of God, which is the BEGINNING of WISDOM, so I pray that God will strike this fear into their hearts.
      That's the ONLY way for atheists, because they've shut their hearts to their own creator who LOVES them and who wants to SAVE them and whose name is JESUS!
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      Hans S
      +Pretty Fly You're NOT able to read the Bible, because it's a CODED BOOK and it can only be decoded by the Holy Spirit.
      So anything you say about the Bible is LUNACY!

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    4. +Pretty Fly Moron!
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      Hans S
      +American Atheist Idiot!

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    5. +American Atheist MAFKETEL, DWAAS!
      Je KONT is niet eens van JEZELF!
      Weirdo, FOOL!
      Your ASS isn't even of YOURSELF!
      Or: you don't even OWN your ASS

      but GOD=JESUS!

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    6. +Pretty Fly You may call me an imbecile, but I'm a SAVED imbecile and you're an UNSAVED imbecile, and you'll BURN in hell unless you surrender to JESUS and turn AWAY from the JESUIT-concocted LIES in your head, making you a PSEUDO-CATHOLIC, whether you like it or not.

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    7. +American Atheist God is threatening you with eternal FIRE in case you refuse to BELIEVE that JESUS shed His BLOOD for the atonement of your SINS!

      And JESUS happens to be GOD!

      You will be among Adolf Hitler and other disgusting criminals in hell and NOT because of your CRIMES against God, but because of your UNBELIEF, because there is NO REASON NOT to believe in His existence and that He did everything possible in order to be able to SAVE you from His eternal wrath.

      Yet you LOVE to BELIEVE in LIES, concocted by the JESUITS, the inventors of
      the big bang
      evolution and the globe earth and solar system LIES

      There's NO difference between you and a lying MUSLIM or a LYING Roman Catholic or a LYING Hindu!

      And stop promoting BIG PHARMA on my thread!
      Or do you work for these POISONERS?

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    8. +David Eriol Hickman God is my FATHER!
      His name is JESUS!

      JESUS in Isaiah 9:6 is Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting FATHER, The prince of peace. http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/07/jesus-in-isaiah-96-is-wonderful.html

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    9. +David Eriol Hickman I've checked out your Google+ page and this may be interesting to you:

      Communism: Another creation of the Jesuit Order. This is the testimony of an Ex-Jesuit Priest https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/03/communism-another-creation-of-jesuit.html

      Joseph 'Stalin' the JESUIT PRIEST, was worse than Adolf Hitler! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/05/joseph-stalin-jesuit-priest-was-worse.html

      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/search/label/Communism

      Once upon a time in the early 7th century... https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/06/once-upon-time-in-early-7th-century.html

      And I saw you like heavy metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZlQuc7cu_w

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB6MVQ77WHk

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    10. +David Eriol Hickman I don't care, as long as I'm not going to BURN in hell, which won't happen, thanks to JESUS!
      An what about you, self-made god of your own universe?
      What do you know?
      Everything you believe in was concocted by the JESUITS, who are (and that's a FACT) very WELL LEARNED MEN, but not to the glory of the God of the Bible but to the glory of His ADVERSARY, 'Mr. EVIL', aka SATAN, aka LUCIFER.

      Underneath The Vatican is Lucifer, Medusa, Isis, Pagan Gods & Idols https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/09/underneath-vatican-is-lucifer-medusa.html

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    11. +David Eriol Hickman And NO WISDOM!

      Psalm 111:10
      The beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord: all they that observe them, have good understanding: his praise endureth forever.

      Proverbs 1:7
      The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

      Proverbs 9:10
      The beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord, and the knowledge of holy things, is understanding.

      You're like a little boy who tells his big and strong father 'who do you think you are....my dad?'

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  2. +MrSitemaster2 Of course I'm not going to provide proof, because you're
    A) too LAZY to search for answers on your own
    B) totally unwilling to let go of your NAZI-NASA delusions
    Atheists are a crazy bunch of pseudo-CATHOLICS!
    The pedophile Pope is on your side!

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    1. +Irving Ramirez The human eye is an exquisitely complicated organ. It acts like a camera to collect and focus light and convert it into an electrical signal that the brain translates into images. But instead of photographic film, it has a highly specialized retina that detects light and processes the signals using dozens of different kinds of neurons. So intricate is the eye that its origin has long been a cause c├ęl├Ębre among creationists and intelligent design proponents, who hold it up as a prime example of what they term irreducible complexity—a system that cannot function in the absence of any of its components and that therefore cannot have evolved naturally from a more primitive form. Indeed, Charles Darwin himself acknowledged in On the Origin of Species—the 1859 book detailing his theory of evolution by natural selection—that it might seem absurd to think the eye formed by natural selection. He nonetheless firmly believed that the eye did evolve in that way, despite a lack of evidence for intermediate forms at the time.

      And evolutionists still don't have evidence, no matter what they come up with.
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      +Tom Savage But WHY did they want to have a child?
      What's the use?
      Where they HUNGRY and did they want to eat it?
      Some ANIMALS do eat their own offspring, you know...
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      +Hans S +DAVID BLACHLY Even if you could prove the eye is not the result of billions of years of evolution(you have not done this). How does this prove your God did it? You must provide positive proof it was your God that created eyes not negative proof that evolution didn't.
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      +Hans S "Evolutionists still don't have evidence"
      I beg to differ
      youtube.com - Richard Dawkins demonstrates the evolution of the eye
      Photo
      Richard Dawkins demonstrates the evolution of the eye
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      DAVID BLACHLY
      +1
      +Ramsi to No one, GOD is Eternal!!!
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      Henry Ambrose
      +Hans S Also natural selection creates a want for sexual reproduction, for one.
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      +DAVID BLACHLY In which case why argue the need for a creator? If creation is not necessary for existence, why do you use existence to argue creation?
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      +Tom Vardin But he didn't give us an eye we could see him with, yet he allowed us to see the likes of +Hans S.
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      +Hans S lol. you're really clutching here. it's irrelevant why they wanted to have a child.

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    2. i answered your original question of "why you exist" and have no interest in going down an infinite regression of answering "why" questions or teaching you biology.


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      Atheïst_PROUD 2 B from The Netherlands
      +1
      if stupidity would hurt.......
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      Charles Steptoe
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      +DAVID BLACHLY Prove your god is real.
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      +Hans S

      "Some ANIMALS do eat their own offspring, you know..."

      If only your parents had thought ahead...
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      Haven't gotten any response for my comments. I believe this post is finished.
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      +Martin Knowles 'You must provide positive proof it was your God that created eyes not negative proof that evolution didn't"

      You wouldn't even believe in God if He would give eyes back to a person who was born without it.

      Because then you would say He did it through the power of the DEVIL.

      Atheists rather believe in SATAN than in JESUS.

      And that's why I'm here, because I turn you all into SATANISTS!

      And when you've become satanists you'll have no leg to stand on and then you MUST admit that God exists.

      But of course you'll LIE about it and keep DENYING it.

      So then you MUST believe you are GOD YOURSELF!

      And then you'll become a MISERABLE FAILURE, because you are NOT God!

      And then you can go running to JESUS.

      All atheists WILL BECOME believers in God-the Lord JESUS!

      He ALLOWS Satan to do the DIRTY JOB through the satanic VATICAN and the POPE of ROME=the ANTICHRIST!
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      +Hans S You're really getting desperate now, aren't you?

      Atheists don't believe in Satan any more than they believe in any god.
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      +Hans S Spoiler Alert: Atheists don't believe in the devil, either, genius...
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      +Henry Ambrose And where did this 'natural selection' come from, provided it really happened that way?
      WHAT or WHO had put the INFORMATION into DEAD MATTER?
      An EXPLOSION and BILLIONS of YEARS of STUPID COINCIDENCE?
      Atheists believe in MAGIC!

      Something else: I'm Dutch and I try to communicate in English: where did LANGUAGE come from, and why do ONLY humans use WRITTEN language.
      Or do you perhaps know an APE who can type and who's somewhere on the internet?
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      DAVID BLACHLY
      +Charles Steptoe How About you prove pond scum became man!
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      Hans S
      +Ken Harcombe God created a 'spiritual eye' in every human being.

      Ecclesiastes 3:11 World English Bible (WEB)

      11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in their hearts, yet so that man can’t find out the work that God has done from the beginning even to the end.


      Romans 1:20-21 World English Bible (WEB)

      20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse. 21 Because, knowing God, they didn’t glorify him as God, neither gave thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened.

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    3. Atheist suffer from UNBELIEF due to the power of SATAN!

      They're PUPPETS of the DEVIL!
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      C-137 Rick
      +1
      Humans aren't special
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      +1
      "And where did this 'natural selection' come from"

      i was once told there is no such thing as a dumb question. i have to disagree.
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      +Hans S Wow... Okay I'll answer those but I'm telling you now that they aren't difficult questions.

      Natural selection didn't come from anything; it's the logical result of a set of premises:
      1- Organisms reproduce
      2- Characteristics are passed down to an organism's offspring when they reproduce
      3- Organisms that are better at surviving and reproducing have more offspring and pass on their characteristics to more.
      4- Sometimes a genetic mutation will occur when DNA does not replicate exactly.

      Abiogenesis is not evolution, once again. Discrediting it does not prove any deity, but if you want information, there is plenty of it online. Atheists do not believe in magic. Once again, atheists don't necessarily believe anything.

      Written language is a result of a number of things:
      - The advanced human brain
      - Human ability to use and create tools
      - Hands that are good at precise movements and holding things, which is partly because of the development of thumbs.

      Please stop capitalising random words. It really doesn't enhance what you're trying to say; it makes you seem impulsive, overemotional and, frankly, stupid.
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      +DAVID BLACHLY Already been done, many times before (in much better big-boy words.)

      Now prove your god exists.
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      +DAVID BLACHLY Prove your god is real.
      (why do you want me to prove something about pond scum?)
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      Hans S
      +Tom Savage You're too stupid to answer my question.
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      +Hans S That's ad hominem and not true.

      You're acting like a child. Crying "why" at every possible point and acting like you're the reasonable one in this situation.
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      +Henry Ambrose MIND YOUR OWN business because this my STYLE.
      You don't answer the question WHY dead matter would organize itself in such a way that it resulted in what we call LIFE.
      It's no use to talk about what possibly happened after that, when we don't know WHY so called DEAD MATTER have the ability to develop into life forms and CONSCIOUSNESS and REASONING.

      And all out of NOTHING!

      That's why I say that atheists believe in MAGIC.

      And WHY are there MUCH more theists than atheists?

      From an evolutionary standpoint this is NOT LOGICAL!
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      +C-137 Rick If that's the case then I can kill you and cook you and eat you as if you're a PIG.
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      +Hans S Evolution is different to abiogenesis. Do your own research for once; there are many possible ways that deoxyribonucleic acid could develop on an early Earth.
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      +Hans S​​ you obviously do not know enough biology never mind evolutionary science. Once again, the human eye did not come about in an instant of creation. It is the result of many modifications that started with simple light sensitive pigments. Daphnia photokinesis is a good example of a simple organism with light sensitive pigments that allow to detect light and move accordingly.

      The human eye is not the most effective eye. Why a creator created a defective eye as the pinnacle of his creation. Nerves in the retina are inverted in a ridiculous non efficient way. They come to the front of the retina reducing light sensitivity and visual acuity. As I said, the octopus eye is more efficient and so is the horse. In both cases the nerves go to the back of the eye without affecting light sensitivity and visual acuity.
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      +Hans S​ By the way the human eye doesn't have pixels. The eye has about 7 million cones to detect colors and about 120 million rods to detect light intensity. Other animals have a lot more. Why are humans so limited? I guess the creator didn't give humans the best possible eye. Bwahaha
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      +Irving Ramirez Indeed. I said this in my original comment, which I also posted on the original post. Glad to see they're dealing with their confirmation bias being shattered maturely. Come join in the fun!

      https://plus.google.com/106982040678415156624/posts/cZ7fziiZVxz
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      Staaahp! Christian logic sucks.
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      Atheïst_PROUD 2 B from The Netherlands
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      And Hans S is a fellow country man of mine....I apologize for the few iscientific illiterates our educational system seem to produce now and again....think that old book with all these fictional stories have something to do with it......they say ToE is too strange to believe, but talking snakes, walking on water, coming back to life after three days dead, pregnancy without sex or insemination, turning water into wine while there's no evidence for all of that is reasonable, even factual to them......what a screwed up way of thinking those people have....UNBELIEVABLE STUPID IF YOU ASK ME!!!! Their way of thinking, not them per s├ę.....
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      Dragon Of Valachia
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      "Can you tell me why you exist?" because my mother and father had sex. If you did not know yet that is how humans are made.
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    5. Dragon Of Valachia
      +Hans S " If that's the case then I can kill you and cook you and eat you as if you're a PIG." - yeah if you are a fucking psychopath who can't empathize with other living beings and their suffering.
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      Charles Steptoe
      +DAVID BLACHLY Prove your god is real.
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      Charles Steptoe
      +Hans S Prove your god is real.
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      Hans S
      +Dragon Of Valachia I thought you believe you're an animal?
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      Hans S
      +Charles Steptoe Prove my God isn't real.
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      +Hans S your question is nonsensical. it just reveals that you have no understanding of the topics that you are commenting on.
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      +Hans S . Hitler was a Catholic. Owned and Pwned.
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      Hans S
      +Tom Savage I already told you you're too stupid to answer my question.
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      +TheLance3185 Yes, Hitler was a Catholic and a pawn of the Vatican and the Jesuits.
      What's your point?
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      At least artificial cameras don't have wires in front of some of the photoreceptive pixels, thereby blocking their vision. Human eyes have that exact problem.
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      +Hans S​​ said, "+Charles Steptoe Prove my God isn't real."

      For the millionth time, that's not how the burden of proof works. The person who must give the proof is the person who makes the claim, not the person who rejects it.

      As a skeptic, I am under no obligation to prove that your god doesn't exist. Even so, I am feeling up to the challenge anyway.

      You've made it very clear that "your god" is the one defined in the bible. The bible defines God with multiple qualities that logically cannot be true at the same time.

      For example, the bible claims that God is all knowing, but the bible contradicts its own claim when it describes Adam and Eve hiding from God in the bushes, and temporarily succeeding.

      And that's just the tip of the iceberg. An extensive list of biblical contradictions can be found here: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/number.html

      I know I said I was feeling up to "the challenge," but there really was no challenge in the first place.
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      +Addicted to Not Smoking Of course God knew they were hiding and where they were hiding, but He was making them aware of their criminal behavior.
      I do the same with atheists because they know there are no real pictures of earth as a globe from space, and yet they keep lying about it as if they're all getting paid by Nazi-NASA or other 'space' agencies.
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      +Hans S Prove your god is real.
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      +Hans S you're too stupid to understand why your question is irrelevant.
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      +Tom Savage anything else, professor?
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      +Hans S Prove your god is real.
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      +Hans S nah. you pretty much shoot yourself in the foot every time you post a comment. i don't need to add anything else.
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      +Tom/Kate Fedrick "the eye is not even well designed"

      Are you going to tell me that the human brain is not well designed either?
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      +News Wars Alex Jones It isn't really. The brain is hugely susceptible to logical fallcies and actively promotes cognitive biases. The brain is also inverted horizontally so all nerves must switch sides before being active

      And with regard to the eye the optical centre of the brain is at the back - the furthest and most latency inducing place it could have been
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      +News Wars Alex Jones
      Alex Jones is Bill Hicks: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/06/entire-federal-martial-law-plan-exposed.html

      And whether you like it or not the earth is FLAT and ROUND with a firmament, and exactly according to the BIBLE.

      The GLOBE EARTH LIE was concocted by the JESUITS and endorsed by the EVIL Vatican: Heliocentrism is SATANISM on behalf of the VATICAN! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/heliocentrism-is-satanism.html

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    7. +Atheïst_PROUD 2 B from The Netherlands No he didn't.
      He's now CIA- 'Alex Jones'.
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      +Dragon Of Valachia IMBECILE! I was responding to +News Wars Alex Jones concerning this CIA-clown 'Alex Jones' who is Bill Hicks, after he 'died' in 1994.

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    8. +Atheïst_PROUD 2 B from The Netherlands Je snapt er helemaal niets van, want JEZUS is het leven, en de weg en de waarheid.
      Jouw 'wetenschap' is afkomstig van de Jezuïeten die verantwoordelijk zijn voor de leugen van de 'big bang' (de oerknal), de zonnestelsel-leugen, de leugen van een universum en van evolutie.
      De aarde is plat en rond met rondom een ijswal, wat Antarctica is.
      En waar heeft atheïsme o.a. toe geleid?
      Tot massamoord!
      Waar jij en je collega-atheïsten gelovigen in JEZUS Christus van beschuldigen is het werk van de satanische Roomse kerk, die een maffiaorganisatie is en de dekmantel voor het Romeinse rijk.
      Als jij een auto bezit dan is die van de Paus want de blauwe Mariavlag met de krans van 12 sterren staat erop, wat het symbool is van de EU, maar feitelijk van het Vaticaan, en het symboliseert het VIERDE RIJK.
      http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/the-cia-revealed-as-gestapo-of-vaticans.html

      De Paus is de vermomde Romeinse keizer en hij bezit AL het geld!
      Geld is MACHT en spoedig zullen ALLE transacties elektronisch zijn en zal contact geld worden afgeschaft en dan kan het merkteken van het beest (de Paus=de Antichrist) worden ingevoerd en daarzonder kan niet worden verkocht of gekocht, en een ieder die dat merkteken zal aannemen zal voor eeuwig verloren gaan.

      Openbaring 13 NBG51
      16 En het maakt, dat aan allen, de kleinen en de groten, de rijken en de armen, de vrijen en de slaven, een merkteken gegeven wordt op hun rechterhand of op hun voorhoofd, 17[en] dat niemand kan kopen of verkopen, dan wie het merkteken, de naam van het beest, of het getal van zijn naam heeft.
      18Hier is de wijsheid: wie verstand heeft, berekene het getal van het beest, want het is een getal van een mens, en zijn getal is zeshonderd zesenzestig.

      De Paus is de 'Vicar of Christ' en in het Latijn is die naam Vicarius Filii Dei, en een berekening van die naam levert het getal 666 op.

      Ik maak me daar echter geen zorgen om want de leden van 'het Lichaam van Christus' worden voordien naar de hemel ge├źvacueerd.

      En ondertussen zijn jouw zonden niet vergeven en ben je op weg naar de hel.
      Dat interesseert je geen bal, want je ontkent het bestaan van God=JEZUS en de duivel en van hemel en hel, omdat je in die leugens gelooft van de duivel en ZIJN Jezuïeten.

      Je bent dus volledig kansloos tenzij je gaat geloven in de enige die je redden kan van eeuwige verdoemenis, want elk mens is sterfelijk en kan ieder moment dood gaan, of na een bepaalde tijd te hebben geleefd, wat op de eeuwigheid niets voorstelt, en wat dan?

      Zijn dan je zonden=overtredingen tegen God=JEZUS vergeven?
      Heb je dan je vertrouwen gesteld op het bloed van JEZUS dat in jouw en mijn plaats werd vergoten aan het kruis?

      Want alleen het geloof in het verzoenende bloed van JEZUS, en dat Hij is opgestaan uit de dood, kan een mens redden.

      Mijn verantwoordelijk aan God=JEZUS is om dat aan mensen zoals jij te vertellen, en niet om 'zieltjes te winnen', want redden kan alleen God=JEZUS, en ook niet om eigen redding veilig te stellen, want die heb ik al door genade ontvangen, maar omdat jij een medemens bent die geschapen is voor de eeuwigheid en opdat jij mogelijk niet verloren zal gaan.

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    9. Waarom zijn er ex-atheïsten die in JEZUS=God en de schepping en de Bijbel zijn gaan geloven?

      Omdat atheïsme hun geen bevredigend antwoord gaf op de belangrijkste levensvragen: waarom leef ik en wat is er na de dood?

      Van nature zoekt een mens God niet, maar het is God zelf die mensen beweegt om in Hem te gaan geloven en om JEZUS te gaan ontdekken als God die mens werd en die van ons houdt.

      Via mij is die God aan jouw gepresenteerd en je kan er niet omheen dat die kans je is gegeven om daarover na te denken.
      Grijp die kans en denk goed na over waar je werkelijk in gelooft en of dat waar is.

      Is het werkelijk waar dat een oerknal en miljarden jaren van evolutie deze gedachtewisseling kon opleveren via de uitvindingen de computer en het internet, en alle voorgaande uitvindingen die computers en het internet hebben mogelijk gemaakt?

      Kan uit tijd en toeval werkelijk zoiets ontstaan?

      Dan geloof je meer dan ik!

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    10. +Tom Savage Alex Jones is Bill Hicks https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Alex+Jones+is+Bill+Hicks
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      'Obama' is Hitler's grandson: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/nazi-america-truth-about-so-called.html

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    11. +Atheïst_PROUD 2 B from The Netherlands You're a dangerous psychopath yourself!
      And you're also a coward who hides behind a fake identity.
      Of course you rather believe CIA 'Alex Jones' than those who have debunked him, being Bill Hicks.
      Pride goes before a fall....

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    12. +Atheïst_PROUD 2 B from The Netherlands Die laatste vraag laat zien dat je er barst van snapt.
      Ik heb niets met 'kerken' te maken of met het 'Christendom', maar met JEZUS en de Bijbel!
      En waarin ik geloof heeft ook niets te maken met de wereld beter maken, want hoe kan de wereld verbeteren indien de overgrote meerderheid van satan is?
      Dat is water naar de zee dragen.
      Het gaat om iedere individuele mensenziel en mijn ziel is gered.
      Jouw ziel (nog) niet, maar dat kan veranderen indien je nog eens goed mijn eerdere bijdrage leest, en vooral als je begint te lezen in de Bijbel.
      Dat is wat JEZUS tegen me zei toen Hij in mijn leven kwam: dat ik de Bijbel moest gaan leven.
      Het alternatief was de dood.
      Omdat ik zelf een atheïst ben geweest, dus iemand die NIET in het bestaan van god(en) en het bovennatuurlijke gelooft, weet ik wat je MIST!
      Dat spoor leidde dood!
      Eens toen ik nadacht over het mogelijke bestaan van zwarte gaten in het heelal (waar ik toen nog in geloofde) en ik een boek daarover las, waarin op heldere wijze (natuur- en scheikundig) werd uitgelegd hoe in een vermeend zwart gat alles verdwijnt inclusief het licht, en dat energie overblijft, toen dacht ik voor het eerst 'dit lijkt wel MAGIE!'.
      En toen kwam EVEN de gedachte in me op: 'zou er dan toch een God bestaan?', maar dat zette ik snel van me af, want ik was nog te zeer in de macht van de tegenstander die LIEGT over het bestaan van God en zelfs over zijn eigen bestaan, want Satan wil helemaal niet dat mensen weten dat hij bestaat.
      Hij verschuilt zich liever achter allerlei vermommingen en RELIGIES.
      Islam is daar ├ę├ęn van, en Rooms Katholicisme, wat heidendom is en veelgoderij, met een pseudo-Christelijke vernislaag.
      Islam was overigens uitgevonden door het Vaticaan!
      Omdat het Rooms Katholicisme de grootste zogenaamde christelijke stroming is, denken velen dat dit representatief voor het geloof in JEZUS is, maar de JEZUS van de ware Bijbel (de Rooms katholieken hebben hun eigen foute 'bijbel') heeft NIETS met de 'jezus' van de Roomse KERK te maken.
      Het Engelse woord voor kerk is church en dat woord is afgeleid van CIRCUS, en precies op de plek waar keizer Nero vele ware gelovigen in JEZUS liet afslachten op de meest gruwelijke wijzen, in zo'n CIRCUS/CIRKEL/STADION/ARENA, staat nu de zogenaamde Sint Pieter basiliek
      de Roomse kerk is de ware kerk van Satan!

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    13. +News Wars Alex Jones They call it the Shroud of Turin because the Roman Catholic death cult had STOLEN it!
      I believe in the authenticity of the shroud: ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.be - Ezekiel38Rapture

      We don't need the shroud to get saved but only the gospel of grace by Paul on behalf of JESUS:

      The Gospel that SAVES!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      But God=JESUS can use it in order to make honest unsaved sinners curious about Him, and the same goes for the Ark of Noah: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/10/the-ark-of-noah.html
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      +Atheïst_PROUD 2 B from The Netherlands The fact of the matter is that the earth is FLAT and ROUND with a FIRMAMENT/DOME and this means the END of nonsense like the JESUIT concocted 'big BANG' lie and the JESUIT concocted evolution LIE, and the JESUIT concocted HELIOCENTRISM LIE.
      So goodbye 'solar system' and goodbye 'Milky Way' and other 'galaxies', because they don't exist.

      Heliocentrism is SATANISM on behalf of the VATICAN! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/heliocentrism-is-satanism.html

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    14. +News Wars Alex Jones Why do you use the name of Alex Jones in your username, because 'Alex Jones' is the imposter Bill Hicks who works for the CIA*, and the CIA is serving the satanic Vatican?
      *Catholics In Action

      And why do you attack fellow believers in JESUS who are convinced the earth is flat and round with a firmament?

      "I am a flat Earth Destroyer a true Christian follower .
      Repent and ask for forgiveness if you want to be saved! Believing in a flat Earth will not save you.
      These people are Freemasons Satan worshipers deceivers..."
      https://plus.google.com/101002929629430483452/posts/ZF2EmE3n21D

      "Flat Earthers = fake Christians = liars and deceivers.

      You should make your main priority to tell people how to be saved."
      https://plus.google.com/101002929629430483452/posts/7c4EXemEGiE

      And then this:

      "I'm not a believer through faith but I am a believer through massive amount of Visual Evidence such as these."
      https://plus.google.com/101002929629430483452/posts/TnHGm66XzMM

      So if you were BLIND you wouldn't have been a believer?

      Romans 10:17 Geneva Bible 1599
      Then faith is by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

      2 Corinthians 5:7 Geneva Bible 1599
      (For we walk by faith, and not by sight.)

      Are you saved by grace through faith alone in the atoning blood of JESUS Christ?

      Galatians 2:16 Geneva Bible 1599
      Know that a man is not justified by the works of the Law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we, I say, have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the Law, because that by the works of the Law, no flesh shall be justified.

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

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    15. +News Wars Alex Jones I already posted this: Alex Jones is Bill Hicks https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Alex+Jones+is+Bill+Hicks

      The flat earth truth is not about salvation, but it is VERY IMPORTANT, because the Vatican NWO need the GLOBE earth lie in order to convince people about an 'alien invasion from space' so that they can unite the world.
      They mean DEMONS=fallen angels, and this lie won't work to those who KNOW the earth is flat and round with a firmament.
      NASA was founded by NAZIS and the US is now NAZI-America!
      The EU is NAZI-Europe.

      The CIA revealed as the Gestapo of the Vatican’s Fourth Reich https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/the-cia-revealed-as-gestapo-of-vaticans.html

      Bible identifies the Catholic Church as the synagogue of Satan https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/bible-identifies-catholic-church-as.html

      The Pope is the Antichrist and the POTUS is his main pawn and of Lucifer the devil.
      All evil roads lead to the Vatican and this is

      The Gospel that SAVES!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!
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      +Charles Steptoe Prove the earth is a globe and show me a real picture of it from space, and not a CGI, or other manipulated picture.

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    16. +News Wars Alex Jones i believe you are CIA yourself, or a Jesuit, because you said you're not a Catholic, which is suspicious, and because you call BORN AGAIN and SAVED by GRACE through FAITH ALONE in JESUS-believers who are 100% convinced the earth is FLAT and ROUND with a dome, SATANISTS!
      So this means you call me a SATANIST.

      This is the real Alex Jones (see picture below):
      https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/r3Y4jBCR0DBvQLsD15Dwj04Qr2dgWQdrUoOJ7xq8g54tXZGEjHtw3pif7mqd44mwKr9lb6qHuw=w260-h146-p
      He was probably murdered by the CIA.
      You don't show your face and you're hiding behind a fake identity.
      True followers of JESUS are prepared to die for their faith, and cowards are dishonest.

      It's a well established FACT (YEARS ago) that Bill Hicks didn't die, but was turned into 'Alex Jones', and when Bill PLAYS the role of Alex Jones he alters his voice, because he's a good IMITATOR.
      I've heard the real voice of Bill Hicks and also when he was off guard, playing his role of Alex, and Bill's voice is quite different.
      And they can do wonders through plastic surgery.
      The only problem was/is that Bill was older than Alex when he started to play his role as CONTROLLED OPPOSITION.

      So, 'Mr. Georgios', why do you defend such a CRIMINAL, and why do you defend the CIA?

      And why do you call people who are convinced of the BIBLICAL flat earth truth, satanists?

      You talk about GRACE, but you're not born again at all!
      JESUITS and CIA operatives are trained to INFILTRATE in all kinds of groups of believers in JESUS in order to betray them and to persecute them.

      But you know what?

      I even give you a chance, because JESUS died for ALL people, so also for untrustworthy people like you, and are you saved by GRACE through FAITH ALONE in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS Christ, according to the ONLY gospel that saves?

      The Gospel that SAVES!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!
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      +News Wars Alex Jones And something else:

      "+Atheïst_PROUD 2 B from The Netherlands yeah because an Atheist said so , bwahahahahahaha..."

      I know your STYLE (bwahahahahahaha), and I know a fellow believer in Jesus who claims NOT to be a Catholic, but who has CATHOLIC and PENTECOSTALfriends, and who talks like you and who's a real AMERICAN, and this person's specialty is trying to 'save' atheists, but in reality this person loves to call them morons and idiots, and this person calls all flat earthers SATANISTS!

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    17. +Charles Steptoe I don't have to prove the obvious, and if you don't want to believe in the existence of God, than that's your choice and there are 7½ BILLION others who might be interested to get saved, because that's what it's all about and NOT the debate atheist vs theist.
      Many others are theists too, but are they saved and born again by grace through faith in the blood of JESUS?
      Many aren't and I AM.
      That's not an accomplishment by myself, because ALL people deserve to ROT in hell, so this goes for me too, but JESUS saved me and He can save you too...if HE WANTS to!

      Because if He doesn't see anything worthwhile in your soul and mind and heart, He WON'T give you the ability to BELIEVE and you'll stay in SPIRITUAL DARKNESS, contemplating the effects of the CURSE, because that's what atheists and unbelievers do, and they see an IMPERFECT world, and that's CORRECT, but that's due to the CURSE!

      And you know why God=JESUS cursed this world after the Fall of Adam and Eve?
      1) To teach them a (hard) lesson and their offspring (that's US!), while providing a WAY OUT: FAITH in His BLOOD SACRIFICE on the cross.

      2)To ANNOY His enemy, Satan, who had achieved to turn Adam and Eve and their offspring (that's US!) into his ALLIES, but he wasn't able to take hold of Paradise and God=JESUS took it AWAY from earth and instead He gave Satan a CURSED and IMPERFECT world to rule over!

      And that's why the supernatural, fallen angel, Lucifer, aka Satan the devil, needs HUMAN TECHNOLOGY in order to DECEIVE and to establish TOTAL CONTROL, though he can give humans secret knowledge of how to build things like UFOS, but they have to pay a high prize and that's BLOOD SACRIFICES.
      LOTS OF THEM!
      Baby BLOOD,
      Blood of CHILDREN,
      Spilled BLOOD on the battlefield and through (man made) disasters.
      MURDERED unborn children,
      Spilled BLOOD through assassinations and MURDER and accidents (Satan LOVES BLOODY and GORY car/train, airplane accidents!).
      Spilled BLOOD through SUICIDES.
      The spilled BLOOD of believers in JESUS and of JEWS, but Satan likes the spilled BLOOD of ALL PEOPLE, no matter what religion they have.
      Satan HATES us ALL, because we were given a chance to get SAVED, but he CANNOT be saved, because he's an ANGEL=a supernatural being and JESUS didn't die for (fallen) angels.
      So he's going to BURN in HELL=the lake of SUPERNATURAL fire, and his fellow fallen angels too, and every human being who didn't or doesn't want to believe in God's GOODNESS and LOVE and MERCY through His ALTER EGO, JESUS Christ.

      And this fact is making Satan VERY ANGRY!
      His revenge is the ANNIHILATION of most of humanity, and if they DIE without having been saved, they'll join him in the lake of fire/hell, but he doesn't want to see us all killed, because he NEEDS a certain amount of people in order to have something to rule over.

      You believe in the earth as a GLOBE, but you can't prove it and you don't have even ONE REAL picture of earth as a globe from space.

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    18. +Charles Steptoe The earth is flat and round with a dome, and atheists need the globe earth lie in order to believe in the other lies, like the big bang lie, the heliocentrism lie, the solar system lie, the evolution lie etc.

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    19. +News Wars Alex Jones Okay, but why are you so against the flat earth truth, because JESUS didn't create a globe earth?

      And do you realize how important the flat earth truth is?

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      I'm Hans from the Netherlands and what's your first name?

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      +Hans S​ I'm trying talking in different styles ,even trying to meet them on their own platform by using their language, But realized that I was wrong. Jesus Christ would never speak this way.
      I repented my ways and the struggle I have with my pride...
      I don't speak like this no more.
      But I simply block the ones who I see that they're not here to learn but just to argue.

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    20. +News Wars Alex Jones ALL 'space agencies' lie about their 'space programs', so also the Russians, the Chinese etc.

      And WHY do they lie about it?

      Because they all cooperate with the Vatican=the Roman Empire, and the Jesuits, who MURDER anyone who's standing in their way, so also presidents and monarchs.

      It's a mafia-organization and their true god is Lucifer.

      NASA was founded by Nazis on behalf of the Vatican and Nazi-Germany did NOT lose the war, but it transformed into Nazi-America.
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/the-cia-revealed-as-gestapo-of-vaticans.html

      What is the lie?

      They need to globe earth lie, so they can push their agenda of FEAR-MONGERING concerning the future 'invasion by aliens' so that they can UNITE the world.

      This LIE doesn't work if people believe in the flat earth truth, because a flat and round earth with a firmament could have ONLY been brought forth by a CREATOR!

      They also need the globe earth lie in order to make people believe in the big bang and evolution lies.

      Read this:

      "I quested far and wide, and everywhere I came face to face with a dishonesty, a misleading practice, I never had thought possible. None, but none among the fanciful assertions of the believers in Galileo's sun-centered astronomical gospel has ever been proven. It is after Eve's seduction in the Garden of Eden the most monstrous deception ever foisted on mankind. The procedure for bringing it about has been an old, but effective one...proclaim a lie again, and again, and then in due course all people will believe you."

      Source: http://www.biblicalscholarship.net/profiles.htm

      You say you just don't believe the Bible is clearly speaking of a flat Earth.

      Read this: The Biblical Flat Earth: The Teaching From Scripture http://www.philipstallings.com/2015/06/the-biblical-flat-earth-teaching-from.html

      The Vatican NWO also lies about the existence of 'nuclear weapons', because they don't exist! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/01/nuclear-weapons-dont-exist.html

      It really takes TIME to investigate, so I hope you'll take your time before you respond.

      You said: 'Even if I'm wrong and you convinced me that it is flat, I will still putting my full Focus I'm telling people to repent'

      How can you tell LOST people to repent?

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    21. Most of the time they don't know what believers in JESUS are talking about, when they say 'REPENT!'

      Repentance won't save anyone, but FAITH in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS will, according to this:

      The Gospel that SAVES!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      We're SAVED by GRACE through FAITH ALONE in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS, so by TRUSTING in what JESUS has DONE for us, and NOT in what we DO or have DONE.

      Good deeds are great, but they won't save us.

      ONLY faith in the BLOOD of JESUS can save us, according to 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, and that His shed blood was necessary due to our sins!

      And we have to believe that JESUS is God, manifested in the flesh.

      1 Timothy 3:16 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
      And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness, which is, God is manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of Angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, and received up in glory.

      Isaiah 9:6 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
      6 For unto us a child is born, and unto us a Son is given: and the government is upon his shoulder, and he shall call his name, Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The prince of peace.

      Isaiah 53:5 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
      5 But he was wounded for our transgressions: he was broken for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and with his stripes are we healed.

      My name is Hans, what is your first name?

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    22. Hanss 3 september 2017 om 19:13

      +Atheïst_PROUD 2 B from The Netherlands Die laatste vraag laat zien dat je er barst van snapt=+Atheïst_PROUD 2 B from The Netherlands Die laatste vraag laat zien dat je er geen barst van snapt

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    23. +Neoicon Mint Evolution never happened.
      And YOU are the problem and NOT GOD=JESUS!
      Have you ever heard of the CURSE?

      You're observing an IMPERFECT world and from there you conclude that God is also IMPERFECT.

      No, YOU and ALL people are IMPERFECT, due to the CURSE=a CHASTISEMENT from God due to (y)our SIN!

      Atheists are like criminals who tell the judge that it's their parents fault that they've committed a crime.

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    24. +Neoicon Mint Evolution is not possible, and I already knew this, years ago, when I was still an atheist.
      This world is legally ruled by SATAN due to the rebellion of the first two humans, Adam and Eve, so VERY SATANIC things happen all over the world and also in nature.
      God allows this to happen as a CHASTISEMENT so that people will repent=change their mind and attitude and start to believe in Him, and that through His ALTER EGO, JESUS, there's a way out of this MESS!

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      +Hans S , I know the flaw is caused by evolution and it works.. but you believe merging the eating and breathing tube into one to cause death by choking is intelligent, perfect and loving

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  4. +Dragon Of Valachia So you even have procreated, creating more God-deniers?
    I've been a super atheist, of the worst and most cynical kind, and I can tell you that your silly life has absolutely no purpose if you don't have a relationship with your manufacturer.
    I can even see it from Satan's point of view: and you're nothing but a useful PUPPET and you're going to burn with him.
    Why?
    Because you even think you're a good person, while you're a satanic God-denier, who doesn't give a DAMN about God's intentions for you.
    And WHAT are those intentions?
    Does He see you as a GUINEA PIG or does He want to DESTROY you, after having had some FUN with you and your wife and your offspring?

    He wants to SAVE you and your wife and children!

    Save you from what?

    Eternal DAMNATION, because ALL humans are meant to be like the angels and all HUMAN relationships will VANISH in the hereafter, and then it will be a matter whether or not you have BELIEVED in the fact that God had become a HUMAN in the form of JESUS in order to be PUNISHED in (y)our place on the cross, and to shed His INNOCENT BLOOD, and to rise from the dead, so that you and I and everyone could and can be FORGIVEN in case we BELIEVE it was necessary, due to our SINS=transgressions against God.

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    1. +Dragon Of Valachia You're just an average killer and many Nazis had families and children, and they still exist, and especially in the USA:
      NAZI-America: Adolf Hitler was alive and well in the U.S. in 1997! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/nazi-america-adolf-hitler-was-alive-and.html
      I call you a killer, because hate equals murder, and you'd like to see all people like me MURDERED.

      I don't give a damn whether you believe I've been an atheist.
      Good luck with your God-complex.
      NAZI-America: Adolf Hitler was alive and well in the U.S. in 1997!
      NAZI-America: Adolf Hitler was alive and well in the U.S. in 1997!
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      +John Smith I've read your entire bull crap.
      "For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory)"

      Okay wise guy, show me a real picture of earth as a globe from space, and you may burn me alive if you can.

      You clearly don't know anything about the Vatican and the Jesuits and they LIE about everything.

      So when they say the earth is flat, they mean the earth is a globe.

      And when they say the earth is a globe, they KNOW the earth is flat and round with a firmament/dome.

      If I were a JESUIT I would smile at you, thinking 'what an IDIOT, he's BELIEVING everything we Jesuits have concocted'.

      And then this:

      Factoid of the day. Back in the 1500's, Copernicus requested to the Jesuits and his fellow astronomers to release his theory on the cosmos and the globe model only after his he was dead and buried. Now think about what I just said...

      Here's what history says about the push of the "Globe" Model.

      A completed, published copy of his book was placed in Copernicus’ hands just hours before his death on May 24, 1543.

      It is important to note that Copernicus’ theory of a heliocentric universe was well known to the upper levels of the Catholic Church in his lifetime. Copernicus requested to publish his theories after his death, it was at the persistent entreaties of high-ranking church officials that he finally agreed to publish his manuscripts and many of the Jesuits were anxious to release the new material, although many were also against the model. Furthermore, it was not the Catholics who initially rejected his views, but Martin Luther, Philip Melancthon and other Protestant leaders. Catholics themselves admit: “Opposition was first raised against the Copernican system by Protestant theologians for Biblical reasons.”

      Question: why would Roman Catholic leaders persistently pressure Copernicus to publicize his theories of a heliocentric universe, theories for which they condemned Galileo less than 100 years later?

      The answer is complicated, but reveals the motivation for what became a vast Jesuit conspiracy and for them to make a confirmation with the lacking experimentation and technology was a stretch to say the least: it was necessary to change the public conception from an accurate understanding of the shape of the earth to a false belief so people would be more susceptible to the final delusion of an “alien” invasion.

      Taken from.. (REF)
      11 See Unholy Trinity: The Vatican, The Nazis, & The Swiss Banks and Hitler & The Vatican.

      12 Mit Gott und den Faschisten, Hans E. G├╝nther Verlag, https://www.deschner.info.

      13 www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/nazi-technology/

      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/heliocentrism-is-satanism.html#more

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  5. +kyzercube _ This is my thread, idiot.
    The NAZI origins of NASA https://www.sott.net/article/257398-The-NAZI-origins-of-NASA

    And what is a NAZI?

    http://web.archive.org/web/20100210054259/http://www.one-evil.org:80/entities_organizations/evil_org_nazi_ss.htm

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    1. 9 Nazi Scientists Who Helped Build The American Space Program

      http://www.businessinsider.com/nazi-scientists-space-program-2014-2?international=true&r=US&IR=T

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    2. +nathan mckenzie God didn't deform you eyes, but everything that goes wrong in this world is due to the Fall of our ancestors Adam and Eve and the ensuing curse on His own creation by God, who happens to be JESUS.
      JESUS could even make people see again who were born without eyes, so this means that He created NEW functional eyes in the eye sockets of the healed person!

      I don't think your Californian doctor can do that.

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    3. +kyzercube _ You only have 'me, myself and I' = SATAN!
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      +nathan mckenzie What's your point?
      i know: you love to accuse God, you don't believe in.

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    4. +nathan mckenzie ALL people suffer from a GOD-COMPLEX since the Fall of Adam and Eve!
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/09/get-rid-of-your-stupid-god-complex.html

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    5. +nathan mckenzie The big bang and evolution never happened

      https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p20wdrZ2Fz0/WZBPdFMAQtI/AAAAAAAASng/2neZrINJvb89W8r712tyj0fHAoi3XaeDQCJoC/w530-h504-p/5c6ec796ee845ea3fc7002cfa8686e3f--political-problems-existence-of-god.jpg

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  6. +jeff andi The big bang and evolution never happened, so you're talking nonsense.

    The earth is flat and round, with a firmament and God=JESUS is the creator.

    Accept it or reject it and be willfully ignorant.
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    +Hans S please post pictures of the edge of the flat Earth.
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    +Hans S Are you sure they never happened? The evidence says otherwise but I'd be more than happy to see your deconstruction of the models of Cosmology and Biology.

    You call it nonsense because you lack the knowledge of the subjects you speak of. Willful ignorance seems to be your forte since you repeatedly attempt to make baseless assertions to justify baseless assertions.

    Truth can be shown, wether we accept it or not. As for accepting Jesus=God, that really has nothing to do with flat earth as there are many Christians that don't subscribe to your lunacy.

    Do you wish for me to provide links to dissertations by Christian organizations that thoroughly break down and debunk your interpretation of the biblical flat earth?
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    +mondaye03 Post a real picture of the earth as a globe from space.
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    +jeff andi I've got nothing to do with Christian organizations that go against the flat earth truth.
    I've got everything to do with JESUS, who's the creator of the flat and round earth with a firmament and everything, and He didn't use MAGIC like the 'big bang' and 'evolution' and billions of years of coincidence in order to do so.
    You believe in magic and I believe in a creator who can turn you into an angelic being, which is going to happen to all humans, and then it will be the question WHERE you'll spend eternity.
    There are two options: heaven and hell.

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    1. +mondaye03 No honest flat earther will claim they have a reliable picture of the edge:

      The earth is surrounded on all sides by an ice wall that holds the oceans back. This ice wall is what explorers have named Antarctica. Beyond the ice wall is a topic of great interest to the Flat Earth Society. To our knowledge, no one has been very far past the ice wall and returned to tell of their journey. What we do know is that it encircles the earth and serves to hold in our oceans and helps protect us from whatever lies beyond. https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions

      Post a real picture of the earth as a globe from space, because ALL globe earth believers claim there are MANY pictures of earth as a globe from space

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    2. +jeff andi Jesus is God and He created everything from His mind, through His WORD and you assert that this is NOTHING?

      Magic is the imitation of the real thing.


      The Hebrews were and are very smart people, thanks to God.

      The Teaching Of Scripture Regarding The Firmament:

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    3. +jeff andi To be able to SPEAK into EXISTENCE is a DIVINE ability.
      The physical world is a well crafted ILLUSION of ENERGY plus information and wisdom.

      You're unwise and you believe in a magical 'big bang' and billions of years of time and coincidence which so called put all the information into 'dead matter'.

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    4. +jeff andi Everything you believe in was concocted by the satanic Jesuits of the Vatican.
      They're dirty liars and you're twisting my words, because I said 'To be able to SPEAK into EXISTENCE is a DIVINE ability'.

      Magic is something the sorcerers of Pharao performed when they imitated God's miracle of changing a rod into a snake (serpent) through the power of the devil:

      Exodus 7:8-12 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 And the Lord had spoken unto Moses and Aaron, saying,

      9 If Pharaoh speak unto you, saying, Show a miracle for you, then thou shalt say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and cast it before Pharaoh, and it shall be turned into a serpent.

      10 Then went Moses and Aaron unto Pharaoh, and did even as the Lord had commanded, and Aaron cast forth his rod before Pharaoh and before his servants, and it was turned into a serpent.

      11 Then Pharaoh also called for the wise men and sorcerers: and those charmers also of Egypt did in like manner with their enchantments.

      12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they were turned into serpents: but Aaron’s rod devoured their rods.


      it's a FACT that a Jesuit concocted the big bang LIE, on top of the other lies like the 'solar system', the earth as a 'globe', 'heliocentrism', the 'universe', 'galaxies', and of course the HUGE lie called 'evolution'.

      I will never put the TRUTH aside in favor of LIES.

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    5. +jeff andi I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.

      Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-oath.html

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    6. +jeff andi Listen: you don't have to believe in God and that He's JESUS.
      Really.
      But God has the right to do with you whatever He wants, and He is a lot more powerful than you, okay?

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    7. +jeff andi All flat earthers used to be globe earthers and they were convinced by FACTS and also by the FACT that organizations like NASA LIE about the flat (and round) earth FACT.

      This is an interesting FACT:

      lh3.googleusercontent.com

      But there are much more flat earth facts.

      INVESTIGATE with an OPEN MIND and be a real FREE THINKER

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    8. +jeff andi I'm a freethinker because I say so.
      You think you're a freethinker, while you don't (want to) know that a person called Satan has concocted everything you believe in through his slaves, the Jesuits.

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    9. +jeff andi Look in the mirror and you'll see evidence of Satan, because it's a description of WHAT he is: an ADVERSARY, because that's what the word 'satan' means, and you're an adversary of your OWN maker, whose existence you DENY.
      I'm as FREE as a BIRD!

      Galatians 4:22-31 World English Bible (WEB)

      22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the servant, and one by the free woman. 23 However, the son by the servant was born according to the flesh, but the son by the free woman was born through promise. 24 These things contain an allegory, for these are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children to bondage, which is Hagar. 25 For this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and answers to the Jerusalem that exists now, for she is in bondage with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written,

      “Rejoice, you barren who don’t bear.
      Break out and shout, you that don’t travail.
      For more are the children of the desolate than of her who has a husband.”

      28 Now we, brothers, as Isaac was, are children of promise. 29 But as then, he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30 However what does the Scripture say? “Throw out the servant and her son, for the son of the servant will not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31 So then, brothers, we are not children of a servant, but of the free woman.

      FREEDOM in CHRIST JESUS!

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    10. Romans 8:1-21 599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Now then there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus, which walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

      2 For the Law of the Spirit of life which is in Christ Jesus, hath freed me from the Law of sin and of death.

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    11. +jeff andi I often call you atheists, satanists, from my stance of a FREE believer in God-JESUS-the Bible-creation-the flat earth.
      And I'm a former atheist, so I'm in fact an ex-SATANIST! But I don't OPPOSE God anymore!

      That's the BIG difference between you and me!

      I can exactly think like you, or your fellow atheists, if I want to.

      I can say: GOD OR DEITIES DO NOT EXIST!

      I can say: JESUS WAS ONLY A HISTORICAL FIGURE.

      I can say: THE BIBLE AN ALL RELIGIOUS BOOKS ARE MAN MADE.

      BUT....due to the progressive understanding I've been through I can NO LONGER DENY God's existence, and I can not deny that this God has revealed Himself to me as JESUS Christ.

      I REJECT ALL other 'gods' and religions, because I know about their origins, because BEFORE I began to BELIEVE in the existence of God, I already had become a believer in the OCCULT, which is the realm of the DEVIL.

      Devil means: liar, deceiver, slanderer, accuser.

      So I DISAGREE with my FORMER SELF!

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      +Hans S The mirror is evidence of Satan and not just a reflection of what's in front of It?

      Wow, Satan is one sexy beast! Anyway, being and adversary isn't an evil thing. I'm an adversary to Rape, Child abuse, poverty and a host of other things. You sir, are an adversary of things yourself.

      Also, thanks for bringing up what Satan actually means, which isn't "the devil" at all but simply one who opposes the narrative. The biblical narrative and your narrative. It does beg the question however, can one be a adversary to something that may not exist?

      Whether it be Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Krishna, Bigfoot, Nessey, The Shadow People, the Grey aliens, etcetera. If you're "as free as a bird" in reguard to thought, then why are you determined to Bob and Weave in you religious cage?

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    12. +jeff andi I live in in a country that used to be predominantly protestant and my hometown too, so this had an influence on my life as a child, though my dad was an atheist and my mom is a non-practicing Catholic.
      I attended a protestant kindergarten, because this school was the closest to home, and of the 5 children of my parents, who all went to this protestant kindergarten, I was the only one who began to believe in God-the Lord JESUS, due to a pretty teacher who read so well aloud from the children's Bible.

      Now this is VERY important to JESUS, because He said the following:

      Matthew 18:2-3 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

      3 And said, Verily I say unto you, except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

      After this kindergarten I attended public schools and I was taught the theory of evolution when I attended high school.

      This destroyed any kind of faith that was left in me, and during several years I truly believed in this and I had turned into an atheist.

      But due to so many things I discovered and due to certain experiences I became a agnostic, and I believe you're an agnostic too, who questions everything.

      That's good!

      The difference between me and you is that I've had a revelation from God when I was almost 21 and this song was the catalyst: Mr Universe - my conversion song (actually, my first MAJOR wake-up call) https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/06/mr-universe-my-conversion-song-actually.html

      I became a believer in JESUS AGAIN, but it lasted only about a week, and then I became an agnostic again, due to the influence of Satan, of which I wasn't aware of back then.

      A little over 3 years later I had a similar experience, but even stronger, and since then I'm a believer in JESUS and the Bible, and I only became a believer in the flat earth truth on October 1, last year.

      So during most of the time of my faith in JESUS I believed in the globe earth and the heliocentric model, and I became an adherent of the geocentric model in 2013.

      I can't give you a revelation of God: that's up to God.

      But if you're HONEST and really want to know the truth, and if you're a true free thinker who dares to stand ALONE, then God will help you to find Him.
      He had a lot of patience with me, so He also has a lot of patience with you.

      PS: I write JESUS in caps, because He is God, manifested in the flesh/human form.

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      So you're arguing yourself instead of for or against the merits of the actual subject at hand. Yes, you've demonsrated that in spades.

      You see, I was a protestant Christian for most of my life. Graduated from a Christian University with a B.S in Biblical Studies but that's not what's Intersting to me right now.

      What is Intersting is you not providing any sound evidence for flat earth on any objective level. You simply revert to your cage of religious belief as the basis for your reasoning, which is neither sound nor reasonable.

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    13. The true difference between us is I'm not afraid of saying "I don't know". As in I don't know if a God or Deity exist. As in, I don't know if Jesus was an actual person or not. I don't know if any religious text were actually divinely inspired.

      What I do know, is that no religious text has substantiated any more truth than any other. I know that I don't have anything that confirms that a man named Jesus did any of the things that the religious texts says he did and I know that so far, not one person that says a God or Deity exists, has failed to show anything close to existence in the real world.

      Unfortunately, you claim to be a believer in the Occult, which still meant that you believed in extraordinary ideas. I'm not interested in your redefining of words to fit your cage nor your claim that Jesus reveling himself as Muslims also claim to have seen Mohammad. It's neither here nor there.

      Where's the evidence for flat earth that hasn't been thoroughly debunked?

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    14. +jeff andi The earth is flat and round and this video convinced me: Scientific EVIDENCE of a Flat Earth https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/jQAQCJBNPSg

      But it's NOT about the flat earth truth, but about the maker of everything, and to get to know Him one needs to dare to go to the EXTREME and that's a LEAP of FAITH for all UNBELIEVERS.

      it's impossible to any mortal to reveal His existence.
      it's something He will surely do in case one really wants to know the truth, because He is the truth, and the life and the way, according to His own words.

      You'll have to break on through 'to the other side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r679Hhs9Zs

      This is potentially DANGEROUS, because Satan will try EVERYTHING to keep you forever lost.

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      Yes, I question everything. So why are you going down this path of irrelevancy? If the earth is in fact flat, it makes no difference what countries we hail from, our religious beliefs, Atheism, Agnosticism, Coke, Pepsi or wherever.

      You're selling this idea of flat earth. That would be observable, measurable, testable and falsifiable. All I'm asking is give me something to the point other than conjecture.

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  7. He's not sending everybody to hell if we believe in the following:

    The Gospel that SAVES!

    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

    2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

    3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

    4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

    *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

    And this world is not a pitiful spec of dust, because the earth is flat and round with a firmament/dome.

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    1. +Karl Vesisilm Are you in a hurry?

      Read this: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jT22XmMivYs/Wara7noYMjI/AAAAAAAAq-Y/GY6V9MvsVNUAtxD2VjRe_8W1G-ubKhOhwCLcBGAs/s1600/What%2Batheists%2Bdon%2527t%2Bwant%2Bto%2Bknow.....png
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      +Karl Vesisilm And this: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p20wdrZ2Fz0/WZBPdFMAQtI/AAAAAAAASng/2neZrINJvb89W8r712tyj0fHAoi3XaeDQCJoC/w530-h504-n/5c6ec796ee845ea3fc7002cfa8686e3f--political-problems-existence-of-god.jpg

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    2. +Karl Vesisilm Torture is the only way to make a person like you realize that you're dead wrong.
      You want to see the edge?
      Unless you surrender to JESUS, who was punished and who shed His blood in (y)our place, so that you might receive undeserved grace in case you believe this was necessary due to our sins, you'll be cast into the outer darkness.

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    +Hans S The funniest thing about your image is that, if you map the coordinates on your flat disk onto the corresponding coordinates on a spherical globe, the illuminated region in the image you showed corresponds to an illuminated region on the sphere that's shaped like a perfect hemisphere with a diagonally oriented circumference separating day from night.

    Coincidence? More likely, the spherical model is the original, while the flat model is just a map that shows you as much information of land masses and bodies of water as possible on a single flat view while sacrificing geometric accuracy.
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    What gets me is that a lot of flat earthers do their best to overturn evidence from other Christians, study of the solar system and heliocentric-ism were discovered by Christians and gravity by an extremely devote Christian.
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    +Addicted to Not Smoking This is another animated flat earth map, and nobody says it totally accurate: 3.bp.blogspot.com

    How the 4 seasons work on the Flat Earth model https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/10/how-4-seasons-work-on-flat-earth-model.html
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    +Gato The sun and the moon shine DOWN on earth like LAMPS, and when the sun (and the moon) set, they have moved out of perspective (pulled out of view).

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    1. +Gato This earth is really a BIG place compared to little humans, and when the sun or the moon pull out of view they are VERY FAR away from our observation point, and then it's getting dark and it's night.

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    2. +Gato do you know the phenomenon that the moon seems to be bigger when we see it in a position close to the horizon?
      That's an optical illusion.
      It's also an optical illusion that the sun sets 'behind the curvature of the earth'.
      The previous video explains this quite well.
      This video explains the perspective issue very well: THE SUN SET'S JUST FINE ON A FLAT EARTH - THE MATH'S ARE WRONG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Gx1vD1CRE
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      Flat Earth - Crepuscule: Who Did Lie to You that the Sun Is 93 Million Miles Away? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnNNmSQ9dv0
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      +Hans S I'm sorry, but the explanation in the video is just WRONG. (that's what happens when you try to make mental gymnastics to try to justify something which is wrong to begin with)

      Anyway, let me tell you why.

      The diagram the guy in the second video says is wrong, is perfectly fine. Actually, a similar drawing would explain perfectly what he sees at 2:47 (the wall lines vanishing at a point). He says the diagram is "geometry but has nothing to do with perspective" Well, no. It IS geometry and it explains perspective.

      You see, take again the wall he shows at 2:47. If the sun moves in such a way that the horizon was at its vanishing point, because of perspective, well guess what? The SIZE of the sun would shrink too into a point, just like the features of the wall shrink in height down to a point.

      And that is something we don't see with the sun.
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      +Addicted to Not Smoking This video seems to have been made especially for you: Flat Earth - Sunrise and Sunset EXPLAINED youtube.com - Explaining Sunrise & Sunset On Flat Earth

      +Gato "And that is something we don't see with the sun."

      Watch this video, which shows that the sun 'shrinks'.

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    3. +Gato People who have a non-existent globe in their mind won't be convinced by anything.

      You NEED to BELIEVE in the earth as globe otherwise you NEED to admit that a flat and round earth with a firmament couldn't have been evolved from a so called 'big bang'.

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    4. +Addicted to Not Smoking I didn't NEED to believe in the flat earth truth for most of time as a believer in JESUS Christ since January 1984, because I started to KNOW the earth is FLAT and ROUND with a FIRMAMENT on October 1, 2016.

      And who am I talking to 'Addicted to Not Smoking'?

      Someone who lies about his true identity.

      I'm NOT under the Old Testament law.

      Bub Bye, God haters, self haters.

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  9. +Bjarne S├Şegaard And you're one of the most ignorant people online who doesn't even know why he has a head on his body, or why he exists.
    You exist because you were CREATED by God, who happens to be JESUS, and you live on a FLAT EARTH with a dome.
    Learn something: NASA’S TRILLION DOLLAR TREASON https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/05/nasas-trillion-dollar-treason.html

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  10. +nathan mckenzie Correct! Before the Fall of Adam and Eve, ALL animals were KIND and MEEK and they ate vegetables and fruit.
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    +Angela Martin Read my previous comment.
    JESUS is WONDERFUL and He LOVES you, so get to know Him TODAY: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/09/jesus-is-god-almighty-and-not-created.html#more

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    1. +nathan mckenzie Call me an idiot as much as you want but that won't undo the fact that you're an imbecile.
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      +Dandy Warhol Okay smart guy, show me a picture of your beloved ball earth from space, and I mean a real one and not a fake

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    2. +nathan mckenzie Is that so?
      These animals have sharp teeth and they eat fruit
      : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabat
      And these animals have also sharp teeth and they eat bamboo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_panda

      In Paradise all so called predators ate vegetables and/or fruit, and there was an abundance of food and with enough nutrition, even for animals like lions.

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    3. +Angela Martin God didn't make predators, but because of the disobedience of Eve and Adam He cursed His own creation to teach them and us a lesson and he took Paradise away from earth to heaven and he gave the 'winner' Satan a cursed earth and death, including animals that have the ability to survive by hunting and eating other animals, but He also gave the prey the ability to defend themselves or to flee.
      He created a system in nature among animals and plants so that there exists a certain balance.
      Suppose you were Eve, then this had happened because of your evil decision to disobey God by eating from the fruit of knowledge of good and evil.
      You were perfectly happy and without sin in Paradise with your husband Adam, but because you listened to the serpent (Satan in disguise) you wanted to know 'more' than needed, and by doing so you became evil yourself.
      Then you gave the forbidden fruit to Adam and because he had become so stupid to love you more than God, he also ate from this fruit and he also became evil.
      There's only ONE human who was NEVER evil and His name is JESUS Christ.
      So what are you complaining and who are you trying to accuse?
      You accuse JESUS, because He is God, manifested in the flesh/human form, and you accuse Him of being an evil person, while He was murdered by your offspring (supposedly you were Eve) and He shed His blood as an atonement for the sins of all people, so also for you, and you only have to believe the following and then you'll receive His undeserved ETERNAL GRACE:

      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

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    4. +Angela Martin God=JESUS created all kinds of animals, like the Bombardier beetle en.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_beetle , so what's your point, mythical Angela?

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    5. +Angela Martin Oh yes He did, and He even created an animal like you! ;))

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      +Hans S The point is that your god didn't create animals, Hans.

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    1. +Robert Pruitt No man, God=JESUS drowned about 6 BILLION people like you and Angela, because they weren't interested in Him, but only in 'me, myself and I' and Satan isn't allowed to directly kill even ONE human being, or else he will be cast into the lake of fire.
      But God=JESUS will save all the unborn and little ones in the resurrection from the dead.
      You're a former little one and you evolved into a satan=adversary of your own maker, and that's STUPID and WORSE than committing SUICIDE.
      So don't be STUPID and surrender to your maker and get saved.

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    2. +Robert Pruitt Dumb, atheist, Satan didn't kill even one person DIRECTLY, and there were about 6 BILLION people on earth during the time of the Flood, and God turned their dead bodies into coal, oil and gas, together with the other enormous amounts of dead organic debris.
      You deliberately forgot to tell that God gave them 120 YEARS to change their minds=repent, but they refused, just like you, because you're an ASSHOLE.

      And ASSHOLES need some SPANKING, to teach them a lesson.

      You're such an imbecile that you don't even recognize God's creation everywhere around you and within you.

      Atheists are the dumbest people in history!

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    3. +Robert Pruitt You atheists do it all the time to theists, so stop whining, and only you seem to 'know' that atheists are 'smarter', but that's because of your arrogance, and not because you're really smart.

      Get smart: Flat Earth Smarts https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/10/flat-earth-smarts.html

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  12. +Joaquin G I represent the one who once drowned about 6 BILLION people like you during the Flood, and who was SLAUGHTERED and shed His BLOOD on a cross for our SINS, and who was dead and buried and rose from the dead.
    And this magnificent person is our MAKER, JESUS!
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    +Joaquin G And talking about made up shit: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/heliocentrism-is-satanism.html

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    1. +Joaquin G Not at all, because I have a relationship with my God=JESUS and you're the religious person, because atheism is a religion based on what the Jesuits have concocted, like the so called big bang, evolution and a non-existent globe earth, because the world is flat and round with a dome.

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    2. +Joaquin G I'll show you how 'bat-shit-crazy' I am:

      Kim Jong Un The Incredible https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/kim-jong-un-incredible.html

      Kim Jong FREEMAS-UN https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/06/kim-jong-freemas-un.html

      Communism: Another creation of the Jesuit Order. This is the testimony of an Ex-Jesuit Priest https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/03/communism-another-creation-of-jesuit.html

      Psalm 14:11599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God: they have corrupted, and done an abominable work: there is none that doeth good.

      A FOOL is an IMBECILE, or a MORON, or an IDIOT, or a VERY UNWISE person.

      This might interest you: Native American Genocide https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/05/native-american-genocide.html

      The Catholic Origins of the First Thanksgiving https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/08/the-catholic-origins-of-first.html

      it's such a shame that you're still lost without faith in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS.

      "Great Surprise"—Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131120-science-native-american-people-migration-siberia-genetics/

      We all derive from Adam and Eve and from Noah and his family and we're ONE BIG FAMILY.

      I live on the western outskirts of EurAsia (the Nethelands) and you live somewhere else.

      it doesn't matter where we live (or die) but whether we know our creator of the flat and round earth with a firmament, and His name is JESUS, or YESHUA in Hebrew.

      His name means 'I AM SALVATION'.

      'I AM' is the short name of God.

      My name means 'I AM' is MERCIFUL.

      Get to know Him because He loves you and He DIED for you and shed His BLOOD for you, and He was dead and buried and He rose from the dead on the third day, according to the scriptures.

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    1. +God Jr Yes, but I don't call saved people 'Christians', because the UNBELIEVERS called the saved sinners, who were saved by grace through faith in the atoning blood of Jesus Christ, that way.



      It's a STUPID term, because MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of people call themselves that way, as if they have become members of another tribe. and in most cases they aren't saved themselves, but the ONLY and VERY IMPORTANT difference between saved sinners and unsaved sinners is that saved sinners acknowledge that they are totally LOST without God's UNMERITED GRACE through FAITH in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS, and unsaved sinners mostly DON'T CARE or they are (still) completely IGNORANT.
      Or they they have become antichrists and satanists.

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      Christians have saved souls while "atheists" have lost souls.

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    2. +God Jr Because I don't like the term 'Christian', since so many 'Christians' aren't even saved.
      The devil also knows that JESUS exists, but he's absolutely not saved and he will never be saved, because JESUS didn't shed His blood for (fallen) angels but only for humans and animals: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/03/thank-god-for-creation-of-animals.html

      I call myself a JESUS Christian!

      Why?

      I love to annoy Satan!
      Thank God for the creation of ANIMALS
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      +Cygnus Ustus So atheists are rational thinkers and believers in God-JESUS-the Bible-creation are crackpots?
      And if I say atheists are crackpots and believers in God-JESUS-the Bible-creation are rational thinkers?
      Explain to me why there are so many languages among humans, because I know atheists can't explain this phenomenon, which is ILLOGICAL from a standpoint of evolution, but very understandable from the standpoint of a Bible-believing JESUS-believer.
      http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/09/the-miracle-of-babylonian-confusion-of.html

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      +Hans S Why don't you call saved people Christians again?
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      He's a rational thinker and you're a crackpot.

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    3. +Cygnus Ustus And you are an unsaved sinner and you will face the consequences of your rejection of the truth=JESUS:

      Romans 6:23 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      23 For the wages of sin is death: but the gift of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord.

      'atheists' DENY the existence of God, the devil, heaven and hell, but they can't deny the existence of DEATH.

      Death is NOT NORMAL and it's an invention by God.
      It's a FORCE which separates His PERFECT realm from this CURSED WORLD, and when you DIE you'll enter the REALM of the DEAD, and you'll be awaiting DIVINE JUDGMENT.

      Now you may also DENY your existence AFTER your DEATH, but you can't prove there is NOTHING, because that's what atheists BELIEVE.

      Listen to the EXPERT and the LORD=BOSS of LIFE and DEATH:

      Revelation 1:12-18 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      12 Then I turned back to see the voice that spake with me: and when I was turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks,

      13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks, one like unto the son of man, clothed with a garment down to the feet, and girded about the paps with a golden girdle.

      14 His head and hairs were white as white wool, and as snow, and his eyes were as a flame of fire,

      15 And his feet like unto fine brass burning as in a furnace: and his voice as the sound of many waters.

      16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two edged sword, and his face shone as the sun shineth in his strength.

      17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead: then he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not: I am that first and that last,

      18 And am alive, but I was dead: and behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen: and I have the keys of hell and of death.

      This EXPERT is JESUS CHRIST!

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    4. +Cygnus Ustus Oh, you want to have the last word...
      That's because you don't realize that you want to 'win a debate', because you want to be the 'alpha-animal' and the 'alpha-animal' has the right to procreate.
      That's because you're earth bound and you think like an animal.
      Satan is your invisible master and he's a BEAST.
      JESUS has defeated him as the LAMB of God, so in the role of a defenseless and innocent ANIMAL.
      But He's also the LION of JUDAH: the KING!
      You can choose to meet Him as the LAMB or as the LION.
      The LAMB of God wants to FORGIVE all of your SINS in case you believe in His innocent BLOOD that was shed for (Y)OUR SINS, and if you believe He was buried and rose from the dead on the third day, according to the scriptures, and He wants to LOVE you and give you His UNDESERVED, ETERNAL GRACE.
      Just BELIEVE this and you're SAVED FOREVER.

      BUT...in case you'll choose to reject this incredible offer of MERCY, you'll meet Him as the LION, and you're NOT going to like it.
      Make a WISE decision.

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  14. +Grateful Apostate Explain how this could have been possible, because from an evolutionary standpoint this phenomenon is not beneficial to the species homo sapiens.

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    1. +Grateful Apostate No, you look dumber than dumb, because this SUDDEN confusion of tongues happened only a few thousands of years ago, and this can't be explained through evolutionary thinking, because then it would have taken at least tens of thousands of years, or even longer.

      The origin of language in the human species has been the topic of scholarly discussions for several centuries. There is no consensus on the origin or age of human language. The topic is difficult to study because of the lack of direct evidence. Consequently, scholars wishing to study the origins of language must draw inferences from other kinds of evidence such as the fossil record, archaeological evidence, contemporary language diversity, studies of language acquisition, and comparisons between human language and systems of communication existing among other animals (particularly other primates). Many argue that the origins of language probably relate closely to the origins of modern human behavior, but there is little agreement about the implications and directionality of this connection.

      This shortage of empirical evidence has led many scholars to regard the entire topic as unsuitable for serious study. In 1866, the Linguistic Society of Paris banned any existing or future debates on the subject, a prohibition which remained influential across much of the western world until late in the twentieth century.[1] Today, there are various hypotheses about how, why, when, and where language might have emerged.[2] Despite this, there is scarcely more agreement today than a hundred years ago, when Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection provoked a rash of armchair speculation on the topic.[3] Since the early 1990s, however, a number of linguists, archaeologists, psychologists, anthropologists, and others have attempted to address with new methods what some consider one of the hardest problems in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language

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    2. +Grateful Apostate +Tom Savage You are both not able to grasp this miracle, so you're a waste of time, and evolution never happened, except in the minds of brainwashed people, and Satan and the Jesuits who concocted this lie and who used Darwin as their useful idiot, are laughing.

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    3. +Tom Savage Son? Are you over 80, cuz I'm 57?
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      +Addicted to Not Smoking "people need to develop a common language"

      WHY? And I ask this from an evolutionary standpoint.

      Why the NEED?

      Why can't people just be like BONOBOS?

      They don't talk in a human way!

      There's NO logic in evolution, and that's simple to explain, because it never happened.

      All intelligence and creativity was put into matter by a CREATOR, named JESUS=GOD.

      And the earth is flat and round with a firmament, and before the Flood there was one continent and the people spoke one language, and also after the Flood until the Babylonian confusion of tongues (languages).

      But no: Satan and the JESUITS assert that there has been a big bang, and then evolution happened during billions of years, and life evolved spontaneously, because matter 'thought' 'let's start life', and let's evolve into humans'.

      An now they're awaiting 'aliens from outer space'....

      And to think I used to believe in this crap when I was an atheist...

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  15. +Bjarne S├Şegaard What a barbarian you are! 'The church' has NOTHING to do with the entire Bible!
    The Bible, aka WORD of God, was written by saved and born again believers in JESUS Christ, who happens to be God almighty in human capacity.
    The original manuscripts are still available in Hebrew and Greek, and they are translated into MANY languages.
    The 'church' was invented by the COUNTERFEIT of the BODY OF CHRIST: the (ROMAN) CATHOLIC CHURCH, which later split into the western (Roman) Catholic church and the eastern (orthodox-catholic) church.
    They built buildings we know as 'churches', but the BODY OF CHRIST doesn't need such buildings, because the BOC started in normal HOMES of the believers and this still happens, or they gather in places which don't look like 'churches'.
    The real members of the BOC can gather ANYWHERE and even on the INTERNET, because it's a SPIRITUAL movement of the Holy Spirit=JESUS in spiritual capacity.
    It's all about the BRAIN and the SOUL and the HEART.
    Just you try to DENY the existence of a people called the JEWS!
    JEWS exist because of God of the BIBLE and no BIBLE without the JEWS, because all the original writers of the BIBLE were JEWS!
    But you probably also hate the JEWS, don't you?
    They remind you of the existence of the God of the Bible, the God of ISRAEL, who happens to be JESUS Christ, which many JEWS still don't know, but which a JEW called PAUL (the former SAUL) knew all too well, and he's the most important writer of the NEW TESTAMENT.

    This is from Him on behalf of JESUS the JEW:

    The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!

    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

    2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

    3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

    4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

    *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

    Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

    Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    13 In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

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    1. +Bjarne S├Şegaard I've read the entire Bible several times and I'm still reading it.
      I have nothing to do with CULTS like the Mormons and their counterfeit 'bible' or the Roman Catholic DEATH CULT and their counterfeit 'bible'.
      I read the KING JESUS BIBLE, which was translated from the original manuscripts in Hebrew and Greek from Antioch: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/06/the-king-jesus-bible.html
      And because I'm Dutch, I also read the Dutch translation of the Bible.

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    2. +wrongfully convicted My basis is the WORD of God=the BIBLE, and what do I read?
      Genesis 17:1-81599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 When Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am God all sufficient, walk before me, and be thou upright,

      2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and I will multiply thee exceedingly.

      3 Then Abram fell on his face, and God talked with him, saying,

      4 Behold, I make my covenant with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations,

      5 Neither shall thy name anymore be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham: for a father of many nations have I made thee.

      6 Also I will make thee exceedingly fruitful, and will make nations of thee, yea, Kings shall proceed of thee.

      7 Moreover, I will establish my covenant between me and thee, and thy seed after thee in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

      8 And I will give thee and thy seed after thee the land, wherein thou art a stranger, even all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God

      Here we see that Abraham met God for the first time and he wasn't a Jew.
      The word 'Jew' has become a collective name for those who descend from Jacob, Abraham's grandson, and Jacob's name was changed by God into Israel.
      Hence God is also called the God of Israel, or the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

      Jacob was the real father of the Hebrews or 'Jews'.
      The word 'Jews' derives from the name of Judah, one of the 12 sons of Jacob. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_%28son_of_Jacob%29

      The MOST important son of the Hebrews or Jews was and IS JESUS Christ, and read:

      Luke 3:23-38 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being as men supposed the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

      24 The son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Janna, the son of Joseph,

      25 The son of Mattathiah, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai,

      26 The son of Maath, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Semei, the son of Joseph, the son of Judah,

      27 The son of Joannas, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri,

      28 The son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmodam, the son of Er,

      29 The son of Jose, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi,

      30 The son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonan, the son of Eliakim,

      31 The son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David,

      32 The son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon, the son of Nahshon,

      33 The son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah,

      34 The son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor,

      35 The son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah,

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    3. 36 The son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech,

      37 The son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan,

      38 The son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

      Do you know JESUS Christ and are you saved according to this?:

      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      13 In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

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    4. +wrongfully convicted I asked you a question:
      Do you know JESUS Christ and are you saved according to this?:

      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      13 In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

      Read Romans 11, because the Jews are still God's chosen people.

      You are not God, so they are not YOUR chosen people, so God=JESUS wants you to mind your own business.

      Again: are you saved?

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    5. +wrongfully convicted Saved from burning forever in the lake of fire, God's eternal wrath on sin and condemned sinners and fallen angels.

      God's name is 'I AM' and JESUS means 'I AM SALVATION'.
      He exists in the eternal NOW.
      Time is an ILLUSION.
      You can meet JESUS ANYTIME you want.
      Like NOW.

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      wrongfully convicted
      +Hans S Saved from what?
      How can a person know someone they never met over 2ooo years ago?

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  16. +Addicted to Not Smoking Prove you're not stupid and show me a genuine picture of the earth as a BALL/SPHERE/GLOBE from 'space'.
    All flat earthers are former globe earthers and they will NEVER go back to their former madness of believing in a non-existent globe, solar system, space etc. etc.

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    1. +Addicted to Not Smoking Flat earth animation. Sunlight & timezones Flat earth animation. Sunlight & timezones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxOxCg5XDuk

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      +Hans S Flat Earth Precision-Seasons, Time Zones, and Star Trails https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgm2QV52MZc

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      +Hans S I can easily DISPROVE Earth being FLAT. Time zones just don't work on a flat Earth.

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    2. +ray salmon "I am not Flat Earth that's at the level as the evolution hoax"
      That's what I also though before October 1, last year and before I had watched this video: Scientific EVIDENCE of a Flat Earth http://youtubetrash.blogspot.nl/2016/10/scientific-evidence-of-flat-earth.html


      Scientific EVIDENCE of a Flat Earth

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      +ray salmon But I was already convinced of this in 2013:
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/heliocentrism-false-science.html
      Heliocentrism - False Science

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    3. +ray salmon
      Some basics for you: NASA WANTS THIS VIDEO REMOVED by Captain Obvious
      . FLAT EARTH PROVED, SATELLITES IN SPACE DON'T EXIST https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4DwhsggPIU
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      +ray salmon GPS Simulator Technology Revealed. Satellites Don’t Exist https://aplanetruth.info/2016/05/06/2937/

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    4. +ray salmon One more such stupid remark, and you're blocked.
      You respond no different than the atheists, while you pretend to believe in God-JESUS-the Bible-creation.

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      +Hans S
      Dude you've lost it..
      Get some help

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    5. +ray salmon There are no 'satellites', so either your friends or you lie about it.
      Are you saved by grace through faith in the atoning blood of JESUS?
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      +Grateful Apostate Your 'science' was made up by the satanic Jesuits.
      You are one of their useful idiots.

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    6. +Grateful Apostate All the classic GLOBE EARTH LIES in a short video!
      Educate yourself:
      https://aplanetruth.info/about/
      http://tabooconspiracy.com/blog/
      https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/

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    7. +Grateful Apostate Ever heard of the NEW COVENANT?
      The Roman Catholic DEATH CULT is responsible for the suppression of science and progress and not God=JESUS or the Bible.
      Thanks to the reformation science progressed.
      But Satan and his Jesuits came up with lies like the big bang and evolution and the 'solar system' and more.
      Be amazed by a genius called Nikola Tesla, who was opposed by people who cooperate with the Vatican and the Jesuits.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAWH3UyINKA

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    1. +Angela Martin Watch the video.
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      +Hans S See my comment above, Hans.

      The Earth spins, your video's clip demonstrates it.
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      You're a scientific and astronomy illiterate.
      Can you explain the retrograde of planets with your flat earth model?
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      +Angela Martin Watch the video.
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      +Karl Marx And you're a ignorant person concerning planets, because they're part of the firmament.
      https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CusgimW1gJA/WY7l30zpQ8I/AAAAAAAAq08/1dFEO9gSiNECyekCxtLDB-1-dxWO3fgAACLcBGAs/s320/Cool%2BFlat%2BEarth%2BAnimation.gif

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    1. +Lorien I don't have to put anything on the table, because you simply don't want to believe the earth is flat, no matter what I say.
      But something else: this is from your Google+ page:
      lh3.googleusercontent.com

      And what are you going to do to your 'princess' if she's the one who doesn't want to listen to her daddy?

      You don't even own yourself, let alone 'your' daughter, yet you like to play God over her, but you reject the fact that we all have to answer to our own maker.

      You cheat on Him all the time with your lies and deceptions, and do you want to know what the consequences are?

      Do you want to die in place of your beloved daughter in order to pay the penalty for her sin=disobedience?

      This is what Jesus did for us on the cross and by having shed His innocent blood, and JESUS happens to be God in the flesh.

      And JESUS not only shed His blood for your daughter but also for her boyfriend who may have treated her bad, and for you and me and everybody.
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      +Lorien And do I have to take a person serious who shows himself to the world like this?: lh3.googleusercontent.com
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      +Absolute-Atheism And this is one of your pictures: lh3.googleusercontent.com

      I'm not representing a religion, but a person called JESUS Christ, the creator of the flat and round earth with a firmament and everything.

      We're all sinners, and I'm not better or worse than you or anybody else, but I'm saved by God's grace through faith in the atoning blood of JESUS, and you're still lost without Him and His undeserved grace.

      If you really want to know more about the flat earth truth then there's plenty of info available on the net.

      Flat earth sites (on google+):

      Aplanetruth.info https://aplanetruth.info/

      BIBLICAL FLAT EARTH COMMUNITY, Hans S
      https://plus.google.com/communities/113159400485833168489/s/Hans%20S

      BIBLICAL FLAT EARTH COMMUNITY
      https://plus.google.com/communities/113159400485833168489

      Flat Earth https://plus.google.com/communities/108661835486195950883

      Flat Earth Society https://plus.google.com/+TfesOrgOfficial

      Flat Earth https://plus.google.com/collection/okzNGE

      The Flat Earth Society https://www.tfes.org/

      Rick Potvin's Virtual Circumnavigation of Antarctica to Decide if Earth is Global or Flat http://rickpotvinflatearth.blogspot.nl/

      Flat Earth Science - All The Latest Research Videos In One Place http://www.flatearthscience.org/

      Flat Earth Society https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/

      Taboo Conspiracy _ Where other conspiracy sites fear to go
      http://tabooconspiracy.com/blog/

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    2. +Randy L Ellis You're right: the CATHOLIC 'jesus' is FAKE but the JEWISH JESUS is the God of ISRAEL and He's REAL!
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      +Lorien Competition is all you can think of and you don't even know why.
      So you have the biggest dick of all?
      Congratulations with your magical dick and magical balls!
      Atheists think they're ANIMALS and I just treat them as such if they don't want to be interested in the one who created them: JESUS Christ, God almighty.

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    3. +Lorien There is no 'universe'!
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      +Absolute-Atheism You need to be convinced of much more, like the truth that the Jesuits concocted the 'big bang' theory and promoted the theory of evolution, and you need to be convinced that the Jesuits rule this world, and you need to be convinced that NASA was founded by German Nazis (and the CIA too), and you need to be convinced that the Vatican is the Roman Empire and the Pope is the disguised Roman Emperor who is in favor of evolution, heliocentrism, the big bang, and against the Biblical truth.
      You need to be convinced that the USA is a project of the Vatican and the EU too.
      You need to be convinced that all 'space' agencies cooperate, so the Russians and the Chinese too, because communism was invented by the Vatican's Jesuits.
      There's much more and this will do for the moment.

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    4. +Randy L Ellis Says an imbecile who believes he's a monkey.
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      +Absolute-Atheism Then read this:
      In the 16th century, anti-God forces waged an all out war on Biblical truth. Copernicus proclaimed that the earth was not stationary--in direct contradiction to the holy scriptures. With no proof, Copernicus dethroned the earth as the jewel of all creation and enthroned the sun in its place. Copernicus' "scientific theory" was (and is) a heresy--and church men today believe it from the pulpit to the pew. Satan successfully used false science as the vehicle for destroying the credibility and authority of the Bible in men's minds. Ask just about anyone you meet if the sun goes around the earth and they will tell you, "It just appears to." His eyes tell him, "The sun rises and sets," but his mind has capitulated to the suggestions of Satan.


      Read more... http://www.biblicalscholarship.net/profiles.htm

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    1. +Ellif D'Wulfe I must admit it's a gorgeous FAKE picture of the earth as a MARBLE in 'space' from Russia.
      ALL 'space agencies' LIE in concert with NAZI-NASA!
      But that won't bother you and you keep believing in these fairy tales.

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    2. +Absolute-Atheism watch this short video before you comment: Flat Earth Precision-Seasons, Time Zones, and Star Trails youtube.com - Flat Earth Precision-Seasons, Time Zones, and Star Trails
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      +Ellif D'Wulfe Communism was invented by the Vatican, so they PLAY the role of adversaries, but in secret they all serve the Vatican=Roman Empire and the Pope=the Roman Emperor.
      The same Jesuits concocted the big bang and evolution lies, and they also promote(d) heliocentrism and the non-existent solar system and 'space'.
      When are you atheists going to start to think for yourself instead of keep parroting what those creeps have told you through the ROMAN system?
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/search/label/Communism

      Heliocentrism is SATANISM on behalf of the VATICAN! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/08/heliocentrism-is-satanism.html

      I note that you didn't provide a picture of the earth from space as a globe which is not FAKE.

      Ask the 'authorities you admire so much why they don't allow people to make a real picture of the edge of the flat earth.

      They simply want to keep it a secret that the earth is round and flat, with a dome/firmament.

      But all former globe earthers, including myself, don't need a picture of the edge in order to be convinced that the earth is flat.
      What's needed is a healthy distrust of 'authorities', which is lacking among atheists.

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  20. +Bjarne S├Şegaard JESUS gave His life for you and shed His innocent blood for you so that you can be saved in case you believe it was necessary due to your sins, and if you believe He rose from the dead.
    There's nothing wrong with JESUS, but there's everything wrong with you and everybody, because we all deserve to be cast into the lake of fire, due to our sinful nature.
    You have no leg to stand on, yet you keep justifying yourself as if you're innocent, but you're guilty as hell!
    Reconcile with your maker and admit you're a sinner who deserves to be cast into hell and start thanking JESUS that He underwent (y)our punishment on the cross.
    Your whole problem is your God-complex and it will only bring you eternal disaster.
    JESUS loves you and Satan hates you.
    JESUS is God and Satan='me, myself and I'.

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  21. +Bjarne S├Şegaard Why don't you start arguing with God=JESUS?
    Just tell Him you know everything better than Him and that He's an asshole and an idiot and start to hail yourself as the best person that has ever existed.
    Subsequently start LOVING people more than JESUS did and HEAL everybody and make everybody HAPPY. Be the SAVIOR of mankind!
    Or blow yourself up in a remote place and be like Satan the loser.

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  22. +Absolute-Atheism So what?
    The earth is flat and you're still lost without JESUS!

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    +Gideon Davis One of your testicles?
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    +Ellif D'Wulfe Globetards are insane
    https://plus.google.com/photos/photo/106087908907898703754/6468469995008244082?icm=true&iso=false

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    1. +Frank Kelley Azimuthal Equidistant Projection Flat Earth Map https://archive.org/details/AzimuthalEquidistantProjectionSW
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      Azimuthal Equidistant Projection Flat Earth Map
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      +Frank Kelley https://ia601604.us.archive.org/17/items/PetaBumiH/Peta%20Bumi%20H.jpg
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      +Frank Kelley [PDF]gleason's-flat-earth-map.indd - Reformation.org
      http://www.reformation.org/gleason%27s-flat-earth-map.pdf
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      +Frank Kelley Gleason's flat earth map Restoration + download https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBlm-Srmc7Y
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      +Absolute-Atheism It's not my job to convince you, because God=JESUS=the Holy Spirit convinced me when I was an unbeliever.
      So I leave that up to Him.

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    2. +Frank Kelley You're free to rot in hell forever, so keep rejecting salvation by grace through faith in the atoning blood of JESUS and you'll get what you want and you can forever stay ANGRY.....at yourself.
      The earth is NOT a planet, and planets are wandering stars and they are relatively small in the firmament. https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=planets&qs_version=GNV
      The sun is about 300 miles wide and the moon too.

      And concerning the great commission: that was for the Jews, and that will be for the Jews again, after the rapture of the Body of Christ.
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/03/the-great-commission.html

      Da Plane! Da PLane! The Earth is FLAT ~The planes help to prove the plane
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/10/da-plane-da-plane-earth-is-flat-planes.html

      It's useless to try to make me a globe earther again, no matter how angry you get.

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    3. +Absolute-Atheism The Holy Spirit is JESUS in spiritual capacity and in case He's sees something worthwhile in you, He will convince you, but in case you don't want to believe in His existence, He'll let you remain ignorant so that He can cast you into His trash can.
      Now, in principal He wants to save you from this horrific fate, and He shed His blood for you too, so that you can be forgiven, if you only BELIEVE that it was necessary, due to your sins, but in case you remain a self-made god, you're His lesser satan=adversary.

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  23. +MrSitemaster2 Evolution is GARBAGE, TRASH, SATAN'S BRAINFART, MADNESS AND INSANITY and a SICK JOKE!
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    +MrSitemaster2 The firmament is something you can't imagine because you BELIEVE you live on a FAST SPINNING BALL in 'space' that's revolving in a 'solar system' around the SUN(god).

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    1. +Martin Knowles You're defending something that never happened and never happens.
      That's interesting.

      Why do people want to do this?
      I know: because they BELIEVE in evolution, because the alternative would be to believe in intelligence design.
      They reject intelligence design, even though there are BILLIONS of examples, because this would lead to admitting that a divine creator exists, and atheists can't have that, or they wouldn't be atheists anymore.
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      Suppose evolution DID happen and the first living cell committed suicide....end of story....

      But it didn't happen that way, because everything came into existence by a creator who happens to be JESUS=God.
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      @Sean "you just need to open your heart to evolution"
      See? You're trying to make converts, which proves that evolution is a FAITH!

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    2. +Martin Knowles Intelligent design is the only option, unless one is deliberately lying.
      Now tell me what's the use of starting life after a supposedly huge and violent cosmic explosion coming out of nothing?
      Since when can matter form life on its own?

      Oh, I see: just wait a couple of BILLION years and then the miracle happens....

      I'm Dutch, btw.

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    3. +Martin Knowles LOL, an atheist is trying to educate an ex-atheist!
      Why is it so hard for you to understand that evolution is just not possible, beginning with the so called first living cell?

      You just don't get it: there is NO REASON why matter would form life on its own.

      Rather the opposite would have happened: suicide!
      I mean: who wants to be a one celled creature in such a HOSTILE environment?

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    4. +Robert Pruitt You're the lying atheist, but that's all atheists can do and that's the reason why I'm here to prove this fact over and over again.
      But let me make this very clear: atoms and molecules don't and can't make life, even in a gazillion years.
      The pathological liars who assert that life can evolve from 'dead matter' (matter is in itself already a miracle, because God=JESUS created it) on its own are the craziest people in history!

      So now you know what you are: heavily disturbed.

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    5. +Martin Knowles Sinful people will NEVER be able to create life from 'dead' matter.
      Only God=JESUS can create life.

      Only ONE living cell is so incredibly complicated that it's mind boggling.
      People think they can imitate God, but they end up imitating Satan.

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    6. +Martin Knowles God=JESUS is the creator of the building blocks called atoms and molecules, but without His 'breath of Life' they remain unorganized matter.
      Genesis 2:7 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      7 The Lord God also made the man of the dust of the ground, and breathed in his face breath of life, and the man was a living soul.

      If this isn't a miracle, then nothing is.

      From dust of the ground He made the ultra-complicated 'biological robot with a free will' called man.

      And from the start this man was able to procreate, but he needed another kind of 'man', a WOman, a FEmale, in order to do so, and so God created Eve out of biological matter (from one of his ribs) of Adam.
      Females will be like MEN and ANGELS in eternity, because there are NO 'daughters of God : only SONS of God, but they will retain their female characteristics, without the urge and the need to procreate, and the same goes for men.
      So, there will be no sexuality in heaven and on the New Earth, and NOBODY will miss it, just like little children don't need sexuality, or adults who have become a-sexual.

      Sex and porn addicts have a hard time to grasp this.
      Yet there's nothing wrong with sex, because God=JESUS created it, but it's meant for married couples who are male and female, so not two males or two females.
      Men may love each other, even hug and kiss each other on the cheek, like brothers, but without sexuality, and the same goes for women, who may love each other as sisters do.
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      +Robert Pruitt This is nothing but the counterfeit of real life.
      There are a lot of dr. Frankensteins among godless scientists.

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    7. +Robert Pruitt Suppose it's possible that 'science' makes a complete cell that reproduces, but then it won't be 'from scratch', but it will be an IMITATION of what already exists, thanks to the CREATOR, DUMB FOOL!
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      +Robert Pruitt And what nonsense about men with the brains of women and vice versa!

      And erect penis doesn't belong in the anus or mouth or hand of another man, and women aren't created to mess around with each others genitals and other body parts like breasts, or to mess around with each other with dildos.

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    8. +Martin Knowles God created a man and then a woman, and the only reason for this is procreation, otherwise He could have created all people AT ONCE and all people would have been a-sexual, like the angels.
      But God wanted to build relationships, because angels aren't related to each other like humans are, and the whole idea behind the creation of people is part of God's war with the angel He once could trust, but who became His adversary by his own choosing.
      God determines what is the right and legal sexuality and no one else.
      God calls same sex people who have 'sex' (perversions) with each other, Sodomites, and He has the right to condemn such behavior.
      I believe all homosexuals, bisexuals or 'whatever-sexuals' can be saved by grace through faith in the atoning blood of JESUS, but then God wants them to at least abstain from their former wrong sexual behavior and acknowledge that God is right about everything.

      We're all sinners, which means that we as fallen human beings tend to make the wrong decisions, based on wrong considerations, so we need to read and learn from God's word so that we know what's right and what's wrong.
      Since atheists deny God's existence, they also have no moral compass and theoretically everything's possible in their way of thinking.
      This can mean that an atheist says that incest is okay or 'sex' between an adult and a child, or 'sex' with animals.
      God allowed incest in the beginning of creation and after the fall of Adam and Eve and we all derive from the sons and daughters of this first couple.
      Later God introduced laws against incest, and since then it's not normal and also not beneficial that siblings procreate.
      God wants them to find a partner farther away from their own family, and the same happens in nature among animals, and this system is good against degeneration, and degeneration occurs due to the Fall of Adam and Eve and due to God's curse.
      There are so many things that can go wrong during the whole process between conception and adulthood of people and animals, so to me it's a miracle that despite this, people and animals still exist.
      Let those scientists try to imitate this system and then we'll talk again.
      I don't deny that it's possible that man can play God, but why should people want to do this?
      As far as I know there are no God-fearing people who want to play God, so by definition they are godless people who try to do this.
      I believe the consequences are or will be evil.

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    9. I have no problem with 'evolution' , because it never happened and it never happens and there's only one species called dogs, and God made it possible that they can appear in many different kinds of sub-species.
      The same goes for people and there are tall peoples and small peoples and deep brown (not 'black') peoples and tribes and very pale (not 'white') peoples and tribes, and many other ethnicities, but they are all related to each other through the sons of Noah and their wives.
      God loves diversity and He's the creator of this system through procreation and other factors like geography and climate and the kind of available food.
      The 'magical factor' of evolutionists is TIME, as if BILLIONS of years plus coincidence can produce the many different species of animals and plants and other organisms http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-14616161 , and furthermore I believe the earth is flat and round with a firmament, and I believe this system could only have been created and there has never been a phenomenon called the 'big bang'.

      Evolutionists think they can explain everything and in fact they try to explain God's way of thinking and His creativity.

      But due to God's own curse on His own creation due to the sin of Adam and Eve, they think He's a blunderer and they think they can outsmart him and do a better job...in case God exists, but He doesn't, as they say.

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    10. +Martin Knowles People cannot fly without devices like birds and other flying animals can.
      So strictly speaking humans can't fly.

      Humans are created to walk on their two feet.
      God=JESUS almost always walked, and only once He traveled a short distance on the back of a donkey, and He never ran, because He was never in a hurry.
      The earth is flat and round, with a firmament and it was created and this means that there has never been a 'big bang' etc.
      Research it and be surprised.
      Almost all flat earthers are former globe earth believers, including myself.

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    11. +Martin Knowles +Robert Pruitt Just show me a real picture (photograph) from space of the earth as a globe, and then I'll become an ATHEIST AGAIN!
      https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qBaAT4jbFKxFvEIUjO66q_87FpdGJFki48-zfV56Tt0mfDNc3Vev0i5v5irlK_E-SUCnmlOTJlMnD8T-jQsJYIT_fyhw9TxlMr_Vk4o=w1920-h1080-no

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    12. +Martin Knowles The flat earth TRUTH proves intelligent design and a creator, so there are no atheists who believe in this TRUTH, because atheist love to believe in LIES!

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    13. +Robert Pruitt I've been more atheistic than you are, and if I want to I can still be an atheist, but I don't want to, because God=JESUS is my best friend and He's more real than you and your nonsense.
      Let's see if you can grasp this:

      This is the RIGHT GOSPEL OF SALVATION:

      Many Modern Christian sects erroneously teach salvation
      is by something a sinner DOES. They make a person's salvation
      dependent upon the works of the sinner. But nothing could be further
      from the truth of God's word. According to the Bible, salvation is
      by taking what Jesus DID on the cross of Calvary, when he shed his blood
      to pay for the sins of man. This FINISHED WORK, once and for all, is
      the only thing that can give man the new birth, forgiveness of sins, and
      eternal life.
      The Bible clearly presents the Gospel in 1 Corinthians
      15:1-4:
      1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel
      which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye
      stand;

      2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached
      unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

      3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how
      that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

      4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day
      according to the scriptures:
      Notice the Gospel is what JESUS DID FOR MAN, and not
      what MAN CAN DO FOR GOD!
      A person is only saved by BELIEVING upon the finished
      work of Jesus Christ, when he shed his Precious Blood for our sins.
      This blood atonement was necessary, for without shedding of blood, is no
      remission (Heb. 9:22). God has always demanded blood for sin.
      In the Old Testament, God accepted the blood of a lamb. In the New
      Testament, God accepts the shed blood of Jesus Christ, the LAMB OF GOD,
      slain for your sins.
      The Gospel of 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 has five parts:

      1 Christ died

      2. For our sins

      3. Was buried

      4. Rose Again

      5. According to the Scriptures

      An old preacher once said, "YOU CANNOT PREACH THE
      GOSPEL WITHOUT PREACHING THE BLOOD ATONEMENT OF CHRIST AND YOU CANNOT
      PREACH THE BLOOD ATONEMENT OF CHRIST WITHOUT PREACHING THE GOSPEL!"
      This is absolute Bible truth! For salvation by
      Jesus Christ's bloody sacrifice on the cross is the only means in which
      God offers eternal life.
      Just as we see the blood of Christ in the five wounds
      He bear on the cross, so we too see the blood of Jesus in the five
      points of the Gospel.
      Christ died. Jesus shed every drop of his
      precious blood on the cross of Calvary, dying in man's place for man's
      sins. His blood dropped into the ground.
      For our sins. The Bible likens sin
      unto blood in Isaiah 1:18: "Come now, and let us reason together, saith
      the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow;
      though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."
      Scarlet and crimson are the color of BLOOD.
      Was buried. Jesus Christ was buried
      in the same ground in which his blood was spilt. When Abel, died, we
      read the following words in Gen. 4:10, "...the voice of thy brother's
      blood crieth unto me from the ground." Shed blood speaks
      to God! Hebrews 12:24 then tell us the following about the blood of
      Jesus: "And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood
      of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel."
      Christ's blood speaks as well!
      Rose Again. When Jesus rose again, the
      Bible tells us Jesus Christ took his blood to heaven, and sprinkled it on
      the mercy seat there (Heb. 9:12-25), where it's still waiting to wash away
      the sins of the most vilest sinner! Are you washed in the blood?
      !

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    14. According to the Scriptures. The whole Old
      Testament points to Jesus Christ as the Messiah. He's pictured time
      and again in all the sacrifices the Jews slaughtered in the temple for the
      atonement of their sins. When Jesus died on the cross and the
      sacrificial Lamb of God, shedding his blood, he fulfilled prophecy written
      of him all throughout the Old Testament.

      So there you have it! The BLOOD OF JESUS
      CHRIST is found all throughout the Gospel. You can't preach the
      blood, without preaching the Gospel, and you can't preach the Gospel
      without preaching the Blood. For the Bible clearly teaches salvation
      is by FAITH, without WORKS (Eph. 2:8,). Faith in what? FAITH
      IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST!
      Romans 3:25-28 make this clear:
      25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation
      through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission
      of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

      26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be
      just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

      27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay:
      but by the law of faith.

      28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the
      deeds of the law.
      To be justified, or saved, a person's faith must be
      wholly in the shed blood of Jesus Christ. This declares God
      the Just one. When a sinner is saved, he cannot boast
      about himself or his works. He'll only brag upon Jesus who saved him
      from his sins!
      Sadly, in our modern age of apostasy, very few who
      claim to be Christians ever preach the blood of Jesus for salvation.
      But the simple Bible truth is, YOU CANNOT EVEN BE A CHRISTIAN UNLESS YOU
      ARE TRUSTING ONLY IN THE SHED BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST

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    15. +ray salmon Take your time, because it's all Biblical: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/CXGCVqpxPyY

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  24. +Hellfire LWD I'm a former believer in evolution, so why are you trying to convince me that it's NOT garbage?
    Of course that's useless, because I KNOW creation is a FACT and that the God of the Bible, who happens to be JESUS Christ, exists.
    Evolution never happened and my PC works thanks to inventors and manufacturers who used their God-given intelligence and creativity.
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    +Rick Kuhn This is a great video, but I add the following:
    The GLOBE EARTH LIE is also GARBAGE, because the earth is FLAT and ROUND with a FIRMAMENT!
    The JESUITS invented the BIG BANG LIE, the EVOLUTION LIE, the GLOBE EARTH LIE, the SOLAR SYSTEM LIE and Hitler was trained by the JESUITS and Stalin was a JESUIT PRIEST. The Pope is the ANTICHRIST and the disguised ROMAN EMPEROR.
    And JESUS Christ is God, manifested in the flesh and the only one who REALLY loves and who can save us, according to the gospel of GRACE:
    The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!

    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

    2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

    3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

    4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

    *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

    Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

    Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    13 In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

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    1. +Hellfire LWD Yes, all 'scientists' who preach evolution are paid liars.
      Before the flood there were about 6 BILLION people like them and God annihilated them all after He had given them 1 2 0 yeas of time to change their minds, and so He could only save Noah and his family, because they were God-fearing people.

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    2. +kyzercube _ Huh? I live in the Netherlands and where I live there's plenty of good quality drinking water out of the tap and I let JESUS heal my (and in fact His, because I'm His invention) body if I'm sick, and I never take shots against anything.
      I don't use fluoride tooth paste and I try to eat as healthy as possible.
      I don't use antiperspirants, because sweating is natural, though I do use a little deodorant because of the smell.
      But what does this have to do with the fact that evolution never happened?
      God=JESUS created us in an intermediate state, being partly like an animal and partly like a (fallen) angel, and there's nothing wrong with animals, though they also fell due to the disobedience of Eve and Adam, but there's a lot wrong with fallen angels, and all people are meant to be LIKE the angels in eternity, and the question is WHERE we're going to spend eternity: together with our creator in His realm, or together with the fallen angels or demons in the lake of fire, God's TRASH CAN-ETERNAL DETENTION CENTER?
      Where do you want to spend eternity?
      People who believe in JESUS are just as bad (sinful) as unbelievers, though they try to live a better life than when they didn't live according to God's will and good intentions, but the big difference between a saved person and an unsaved person is that a saved person is saved (from going to hell-the lake of fire) by God's undeserved grace through faith (alone) in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS, which was shed as a remission of sin.
      Only a sinless (innocent) animal's blood can 'wash us clean' from sin, and JESUS, being God, manifested in the flesh-human form, shed His blood for us if He were a sinless, firstborn, male ANIMAL: the Lamb of God.
      So, saved people totally rely through faith on what JESUS has DONE for them and they know that no good deed can save them, even though it's good to do good deeds and and to live according to God's will.
      If you want to get saved right now, and forever, then this is the right 'recipe':

      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      13 In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

      See how EASY it is to be saved?

      You don't become a 'Christian' or part of 'Christianity', but you'll become an ADOPTED SON of GOD, and not for a while until you sin again, but FOR EVER!

      So I'm NOT promoting 'Christianity' or a 'church', but ONLY JESUS.

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    3. In fact I HATE 'Christianity', because 'Christianity' is man-made RELIGION and I promote a personal relationship with OUR maker, and that's the same person who created all those 'crazy' animals like Bonobos.
      He also created a top-angel who thought he could outsmart his own creator, but He didn't create him as a bad angel, but as a good and loyal angel, and angels are servants of God, and they have supernatural bodies and they are very intelligent, and they are mostly invisible to us, though they can make themselves visible if they have been given God's permission to do so, and then I'm talking about the good angels, and the fallen angels can also make themselves visible, but every time they do this it's ILLEGAL, because God didn't order them to do so, and when they do, it's to deceive or to frighten people, or to bring/keep them into spiritual bondage.
      The angel that revealed himself to Muhammad was the devil and he dared to call himself Jibril, which is Arabic for Gabriel, so this was a clear deception.
      There are many instances in the Bible in which angels appear.

      And again: we are ALL meant to be LIKE the angels, after this life.
      This doesn't mean we're going to be angels, but LIKE the angels, having 'supernatural' (in God's realm, supernatural is NORMAL) bodies with all of our senses, but even better, so it's possible to feel PAIN in the lake of fire, while the flames are also supernatural, compared to this dimension.
      But it's also possible to ENJOY everything God has made in a world WITHOUT sin and death, because death is also invented by God as a means to separate Himself from this cursed dimension, and death is a PUNISHMENT so that sinful people learn that the wages of sin is death and condemnation.

      Romans 6:23 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      23 For the wages of sin is death: but the gift of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord.

      Choose LIFE, choose JESUS, or choose DEATH and choose Satan=me, myself and I, pretending to be your own god.


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    4. +Hellfire LWD Everything God=JESUS did and does is GOOD and JUSTIFIED, because He's the only authority and He has to answer to no one but to Himself.
      So this means that the Flood was necessary, and NOT because He likes to annihilate people and animals, but because of this:

      Genesis 6:5-8 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      5 When the Lord^ saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and all the imaginations of the thoughts of his heart were only evil continually,

      6 Then it repented the Lord, that he had made man in the earth, and he was sorry in his heart.

      7 Therefore the Lord said, I will destroy from the earth the man, whom I have created, from man to beast, to the creeping thing, and to the fowl of the heaven: for I repent that I have made them.

      8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

      ^Lord=YHWH=I AM that I AM, and in short 'I AM' and JESUS from YESHUA means 'I AM SALVATION'.

      If you read the following then it becomes clear why he saved Noah, and (only) because of him, his family too:

      Luke 3:23-38 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being as men supposed the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

      24 The son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Janna, the son of Joseph,

      25 The son of Mattathiah, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai,

      26 The son of Maath, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Semei, the son of Joseph, the son of Judah,

      27 The son of Joannas, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri,

      28 The son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmodam, the son of Er,

      29 The son of Jose, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi,

      30 The son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonan, the son of Eliakim,

      31 The son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David,

      32 The son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon, the son of Nahshon,

      33 The son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah,

      34 The son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor,

      35 The son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah,

      36 The son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech,

      37 The son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan,

      38 The son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

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    5. +kyzercube _ yes, I know, it's too much for your poor brain...

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      kyzercube _
      +Hans S
      http://pa1.narvii.com/6058/abb51db9fc475f2f8a58810d2822db260f8daf9f_hq.gif

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    6. +Hellfire LWD No His plan didn't fail, because He saved Noah, and from the lineage of Noah He was born into this wicked world in order to become our Savior.
      Read the Bible and it will answer your question:
      Genesis 9:8-17 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 God spake also to Noah and to his sons with him, saying,

      9 Behold, I, even I establish my [a]covenant with you, and with your seed after you,

      10 And with every living creature that is with you, with the fowl, with the cattle, and with every beast of the earth with you, from all that go out of the Ark, unto every beast of the earth.

      11 And my covenant will I establish with you, that from henceforth all flesh shall not be rooted out by the waters of the flood, neither shall there be a flood to destroy the earth anymore.

      12 Then God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you, and between every living thing that is with you unto perpetual generations.

      13 I have set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a sign of the covenant between me and the earth.

      14 And when I shall cover the earth with a cloud, and the bow shall be seen in the cloud,

      15 Then will I remember my covenant which is between me and you, and between every living thing in all flesh, and there shall be no more waters of a flood to destroy all flesh.

      16 Therefore the bow shall be in the cloud, that I may see it, and remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living thing, in all flesh that is upon the earth.

      17 God said yet to Noah, This is the sign of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

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  25. +Ronni Rasmussen Simple: the GOVERN-MENT=MIND CONTROL lies about everything, so also about the 'big bang', 'evolution', 'the solar system', the earth as a globe on behalf of Nazi-NASA, etc. and it all leads to ONE source: the Vatican and its JESUITS and LUCIFER.

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    1. +Ronni Rasmussen Thanks for nothing and keep dreaming within your Godless bubble, atheist.

      This topic is to see whether atheists believe everything 'authorities' say, and time and again it proves to be the case.

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    2. +Sean Dali What a great BS video!
      NASA lies about EVERYTHING
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/05/nasas-trillion-dollar-treason.html

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    3. +Sean Dali Have you watched the video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMPbpZ34T2c&feature=share

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    4. +Sean Dali A theoretical atom bomb is something else than the real thing.
      'Nukes' just don't exist, but it's EASY to make the people believe they do if one has full control over the mass media.
      The same happened during and after 9/11 2001, because almost nobody died that day and the buildings came down by controlled demolition and the 'planes' were filled in by computer artists, because what hit the twin towers were CRUISE MISSILES, and eyes witnesses have seen them and I've heard their testimonies, but they were quickly silenced by the 'reporters' who work for the government.

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    5. +Sean Dali Have you watched the video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMPbpZ34T2c&feature=share

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    1. The atheists on this thread are all too enslaved to their dear government to be able to think for themselves....
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      +MrSitemaster2 The Jesuits Fake Nukes on Hiroshima ( Japan ) http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2014/10/the-jesuits-fake-nukes-on-hiroshima.html
      The Jesuits Fake Nukes on Hiroshima ( Japan )
      The Jesuits Fake Nukes on Hiroshima ( Japan )
      ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl
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      +Randy L Ellis The Roman Empire never fell, and it disguised itself as the Roman Catholic 'church' and the Vatican.
      The US is nothing more than the military arm of the Vatican, and it's totally bankrupt, but it's military hardware and military slaves are owned by the Vatican, which is the richest organization on earth and in history, owning all of the world's money.
      The NASA was founded by German Nazis and they lie about everything.
      Nazis are fanatical servants of the Vatican and the Pope.
      Nukes don't exist, and it's all a fearmongering tool of the Jesuits and the Vatican.
      Divide and conquer and the hegelian dialectic is their tactic.
      Bible identifies the Catholic Church as the synagogue of Satan
      ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.be - Bible identifies the Catholic Church as the synagogue of Satan

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    2. +john vico I told you: fire bombs.
      In case a nuclear explosion would have happened then even concrete would have been vaporized, but most of the buildings were made of bamboo and wood and the concrete buildings endured the flames.
      There were also burnt trees that were just standing upright in the ground and if a nuclear bomb had really exploded, organic things like trees would certainly have evaporated.

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  27. +Pablo Escobar A land without trees?
    Are you drunk?

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    +Sue T. Absolutely and especially you.
    All the cute and funny animals on your page were created by JESUS.
    He also created you and even me.

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    1. +Pablo Escobar There were plenty of pine trees back then.
      Genesis 6:14-15 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      14 Make thee an Ark of pine trees: thou shalt make cabins in the Ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.

      15 And thus shalt thou make it: the length of the Ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
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      +S Mackay Hi Satan Mackay!
      My S stands for my surname https://plus.google.com/105343586944959425652

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    2. +S Mackay And my surname isn't 'Stupid'.
      JESUS is God, manifested in the flesh and He's the ©reato®.
      He created every atom, electron, neutron, proton etc. of your entire being and the same goes for me too.
      I admit it and give Him the honor and you deny it and you mock your own creator, whom you've never met.
      You meet Him trough me and I've got a message for you on His behalf:
      In case you realize you're a sinner and that you're lost without JESUS Christ, you can believe the following and you'll never go to hell but to where JESUS is;
      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      13 In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

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  28. +john vico I don't understand why I have a head on my body, therefore....evolution!
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    +Michael o'donnell Anything else, imbecile?
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    +Robert Pratt It must be very hard to be a self-made god

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    1. +Robert Pratt No, God=JESUS made you and your parents and their ancestors, all the way to Adam and Eve, and the same goes for me an everybody.
      In fact we are distant relatives, from the flesh, but we're unrelated from the spirit, because you still belong to Satan and I belong to JESUS the ©reato®.
      Now, this can change and even right now in case you realize you're a sinner and lost without JESUS Christ, according to the following:
      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how* that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      *through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      13 In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

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  29. +Bjarne S├Şegaard The earth is flat and round, with a firmament and it was created about 6000 years ago by JESUS, who happens to be God, manifested in the flesh.
    The 'big bang' and evolution never happened, except in the minds of morons who deny the existence of their own creator.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qBaAT4jbFKxFvEIUjO66q_87FpdGJFki48-zfV56Tt0mfDNc3Vev0i5v5irlK_E-SUCnmlOTJlMnD8T-jQsJYIT_fyhw9TxlMr_Vk4o=w1920-h1080-no

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    1. +Paul Mobley Antarctica Is NOT What You Think - No 24 Hour Sun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mdg5k-WBFw


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      +Bjarne S├Şegaard I pay you €1000,00 if you can show me a undoctored picture from 'space' of the earth as a globe.

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    2. +Paul Mobley
      Antarctica IS the ice wall.

      All pictures of the earth as a globe from 'space' are fake.

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    3. +Paul Mobley So everything on the internet is from the devil/the evil one, according to you?
      You can say whatever you want, but I still don't believe you're saved, and your next comment on Icicle Fledglings gives proof of that, because it wasn't necessary to attack him this way and just tell him that he's lost without faith in the atoning blood of JESUS Christ.
      What does his BODY have to do with his state of mind?
      You are the one who's blinded by the devil because you're focused on what will happen after the rapture, and you believe in things that don't exist like 'nukes' and 'dangerous nuclear radiation' and the earth as a BALL.
      People who own the mass media can make the others believe in anything.
      All mass media is owned by a few people who all serve the satanic Vatican, which is the disguised Roman Empire.

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    4. +Paul Mobley I'm saved by grace alone through faith alone in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS Christ.
      Can you say AMEN! to that?

      Revelation 8:11 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      11 And the name of the star is called wormwood: therefore the third part of the waters became wormwood, and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

      The entire book of Revelation is not for the Body of Christ, but for the Jews during the Time of Jacob's Trouble, and that's AFTER the pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture.
      Have you ever heard of dispensations?
      https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=dispensation&qs_version=GNV
      We're still living in the dispensation of grace, and not in the great tribulation-Times of Jacob's Trouble.

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  30. +Bjarne S├Şegaard You keep saying I'm sick with your proud God-complex, but you're the one who's mentally ill, because despite the abundance of evidence all around you and within you, you keep denying the existence of your creator, as if you're the creator yourself, who had forgotten how he had accomplished everything.
    And so you keep believing in a big bang that never happened and evolution, which is impossible, only to avoid to have to admit that this reality couldn't have come about by sheer accident and a lot of time, as if 'magical matter' has been able to bring forth everything we perceive in this reality.
    This is wat atheists believe:
    In the beginning there was NOTHING
    Then there was a BIG BANG
    Matter arises
    Time and coincidence
    Magical matter creates the conditions for life and life itself and it can even think and it stores thoughts, creativity, emotions and dreams in a bio-computer called the human brain, and that in just a FEW BILLON years, which is nothing compared to eternity.
    And again: everything out of NOTHING.
    According to the God-deniers, called atheists.

    Note: of course atheists reject the flat earth truth, because a flat and round earth with a dome/firmament could have only been created by an intelligent designer, and so they believe in the earth as a BALL, a GLOBE, and they believe this globe is a minuscule particle in a vast and expanding 'universe'.

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    1. +Martin Zeitler According to God, who happens to be JESUS, we're all evil and we all deserve to be cast into the eternal lake of fire.
      This is the RIGHT and only GOSPEL (good news) OF SALVATION, and the name 'JESUS' means 'I AM SALVATION': https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/1j6qg8yeYnN

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    2. +Martin Zeitler The name JESUS is the Greek-English (Germanic) translation of the Hebrew name YESHUA and the meaning is the same: 'I AM SALVATION'.
      God's name is 'I AM that I AM' and in short 'I AM'.
      The Jewish writers of the Old Testament of Tanakh hid this name behind the Tetragrammaton YHWH, which isn't a name, but an abbreviation of God's name.
      Exodus 3:13-14 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      13 Then Moses said unto God, Behold, when I shall come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you: if they say unto me, What is his Name? what shall I say unto them?

      14 And God answered Moses, I AM THAT I AM. Also he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

      JESUS is the GREAT 'I AM' in the role-capacity of Savior.

      Isaiah 53:5 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      5 But he was wounded for our transgressions: he was broken for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and with his stripes are we healed.

      Isaiah 9:6 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      6 For unto us a child is born, and unto us a Son is given: and the government is upon his shoulder, and he shall call his name, Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The prince of peace.

      JESUS is God and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel=Jacob.

      The English translators of the Old Testament hid God's name behind the word LORD: https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=LORD&qs_version=GNV

      It should be 'I AM that I AM'.

      Are you saved by God's undeserved grace by faith alone in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS or do you think you can earn God's grace by your so called 'good deeds'?

      No matter whether you're a Jew or a non-Jew this is the gospel that saves FOREVER: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/1j6qg8yeYnN

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      Martin Zeitler
      +Hans S​ lol? I speak Hebrew pretty well - while Jesus is a Latin name. it's the prototype of one Roman Messiah, which communicates just one single message: better shut the fuck up, pay your taxes, worship Molech - or end up alike him.

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    3. +Paul Mobley I asked you whether you believe JESUS is God.
      And do you believe He's God?
      I can prove from the Bible that JESUS is God and even the Father:
      Isaiah 9:6 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      6 For unto us a child is born, and unto us a Son is given: and the government is upon his shoulder, and he shall call his name, Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The prince of peace.
      This is from the Geneva translation, which is a very reliable Bible from the 16th century.
      There are a lot of things I discovered thanks to the internet, and one of those discoveries was the globe earth lie and the flat earth truth.
      Most flat earthers are former globe earthers and most of them became convinced the earth is flat and ROUND, with a firmament/dome due to all the LIES they became aware of while they were searching for the truth
      Only idiots like to be lied to, and no normal person accepts the many lies from our governments and so called scientists.
      Do you believe men walked on the moon?

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