Saturday, June 16, 2018

Pray for Renee: she believes in ANNIHILATIONISM and she's AGAINST the FLAT EARTH truth and she's NOT against 'Christmas'

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    Decebal Trandafir
    2 hours ago
    Hi Do you think hell is eternal? I dont think is fair to torment people for ever....What do you think,Renee?

    Steve M
    1 hour ago
    Hell is Eternal. That's what Jesus came to save us from, hallelujah, thank you Jesus. My suggestion is to mediate on all scriptures referring to Hell. The Holy Spirit may very well reveal to you this Truth in your asking, seeking & knocking. And there's only one reason for anyone that goes to hell...the rejection of Jesus the Christ. Let ever man be a liar but God be True. Don't trust man, the world or even yourself. Place your entire trust in Jesus Alone. This, the Holy Spirit will reveal to you also. I pray in Jesus' name, Amen

    Renee Roland
    45 minutes ago (edited)
    Always go to the Word of God yourself...do not believe me or tradition on this..study it yourself but MY OPINION AFTER MUCH STUDY....is hell is cast into the lake of fire. the wages of sin is death...I BELILEVE after studying ALL the OT and NT verses on where we go after death that there is a place of torment THEN at the great white throne judgment the unsaved dead are risen and then CAST into the lake of fire along with death/hell/grave and are destroyed by. eternal fire....it is permanent. THEY PERISH THEY ARE DESTROYED but it will be TERRIBLE. NOWHERE in scripture is man immortal without Jesus..I don't do videos on it bc it causes division and ppl LOVE their tradition of eternal torture but "forever and ever " is translated from "aeon" meaning an age. Also sodom and Gomorrah are examples of the lost being destroyed by eternal fire and the "smoke of their torment goes up forever" and "everlasting punishment" but its not still burning! It means its permanent. Or else God's wrath endures forever and he is unable to kill/destroy ppl so he had to torture them forever. man is NOT immortal without Jesus. So HELL and the lake of fire are two separate places in scripture and if ppl really studied it, they'd see it but they won't so they call me heretic. I won't do video bc ppl really lose their minds like they WANT hell to be forever torturing ppl. 




Renee, I know you're still against it, but this former atheist became a believer in God-JESUS-the Bible-creation AFTER he had discovered the flat earth reality, because this reality confirms creation, and 'evolution' and the 'big bang' THEORIES were concocted by Satan through his JESUITS so that people would believe that we are NOTHING but 'stardust', instead of creatures who are VERY SPECIAL to God, living on an UNIQUE earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=HTMqtixcpC4
Honey there is so much real science beside PHOTOGRAPHS that could NOT be faked (from 1940s) and I had conversations personally with actual astronauts that love God and I believe them when they say its like a blue marble. SO Sorry ...the earth does not have to be a snowglobe so that God is "GEOGRAPHICALLY CLOSE' bc He is in another dimension and is everywhere..IN US and with us. There are too many things that cannot be answered...gravity is true. and if gravity is true the earth MUST be round bc the force pulls mass to it center and ALL things the mass of the earth MUST be in a ball form bc of that force . When I hear ppl deny gravity is real I want to pull my hair out..its NOT hte density that makes it fall bc heavy objects in an "antigravity" area still FLOAT bc there is lack of gravity. The Bible supports a BALL EARTH TOO! Thereis so much artistic language and "circle of the earth" and 'hangs hte earth on nothing" and 'immovable" can all support a ball earth. All large objects are round..and to say the sun is small and inside a dome is insanity. I am sorry but nothing I have heard proves this to me. Scientits are NOT in a secret club...they have NO reason to keep this conspiracy. It profits nothing! its pointless...I'm sorry Hans. I have many FE friends but they ;cannot answer many simple things that physics and basic science easily explain. How is it 24 hours daylight in Alaska and other areas of the world if the world is flat??? It makes NO sense...we see our shadow of hte earth ON THE MOON! Sphere earth answers ALL these questions...if the earth is flat then the YEAR is wrong too...bc its based on the earth going around the sun. Even the Bible has the 360 day year (we have 365 day year) it all makes no sense. IF someone could show me real science that answers these questions I'd consider it...they cannot. I think it takes AWAY FROM GOD'S GLORY TO say the earth is flat and hte universe is not really there..its all faked or a hologram...God "stretched out the heavens' so we KNOW the universe is expanding and it also proves it has a beginning and therefore a creator...the heavens declare the glory of God. I think many ppl MAKE the bible fit flat earth...it can support a ball earth just as easily. Please don't let this cause division. God bless..you nkow I love you but I reject FE with all my being.
Renee, we completely disagree on this. I love you but I reject the globe earth bull crap with all my being.
















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    1. J.M. de Boer
      Hi, fellow flat earther!

      BELIEVE that JESUS LOVES you and has shed His forgiving BLOOD for ALL your sins and remember that JESUS Himself said this on the cross: Matthew 27:46
      And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
      He said this on behalf of you and me and everyone!
      He knows what it feels like to be VERY DEPRESSED and GOD FORSAKEN!
      Just SHARE EVERYTHING with Him and make Him your BEST FRIEND!
      He's also the creator of our sexuality.
      Allow Him to teach you what is BEST for you.
      Read Roman through Philemon by Paul on behalf of JESUS and study the Bible, based on this foundation.
      https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE

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      J.M. de Boer
      J.M. de Boer
      1 hour ago
      Struggle with depression and homosexuality. Please pray for me.

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    2. J.M. de Boer with JESUS as our BEST FRIEND, we may be alone, but NEVER LONELY!
      Faith Is A Perfect Road

      Mad At The World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toskczftkwA&t=1631s

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      J.M. de Boer
      J.M. de Boer
      1 hour ago
      Hans S Thank you brother. It seems that following and just believing the gospel is a lonely road. So many questions and struggles. Will read the chapters and thanks for the encouragement.

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    3. THIS LIE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toskczftkwA&t=2087s
      Mad at the World - Flowers in the Rain (Full Album) 1988 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toskczftkwA

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    4. It's not a question of who's good, or who's bad
      How many problems that you have
      But it's a question of your FAITH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs43RNvWxnk
      Lyrics: https://genius.com/Mad-at-the-world-dancing-on-your-grave-lyrics

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    5. Follower, And you're gonna ROT IN HELL, unless you're saved by UNDESERVED GIFT of God's GRACE through FAITH ALONE in the ATONING BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST!
      H Y P O C R I T E

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      Follower
      3 minutes ago
      You're not saved. You're not born again if you're still a homosexual and depressed. Repent of your sins and Surrender to Christ. That easy grace gospel is crap and doesnt have the POWER To Change you.

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    6. Follower, so Renee is a FALSE PROPHET, according to YOU, concerning HOW to get saved FOREVER?
      YOU are a SELF-RIGHTEOUS RELIGIOUS FREAK who believes in the WRONG GOSPEL!
      https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE

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      Follower
      Follower
      6 minutes ago
      J.M. de Boer YOU HAVE TO REPENT TO BE SAVED! And its not just going from unbelief to belief. Unbelief is a sin (Rev 21:8) so that doesn't even make sense. its stopping all the sins in your life! JESUS our MASTER! said

      I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

      Luke 13:3 NIV

      Go, and from now on sin no more."

      John 8:11

      And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.

      Matthew 5:30

      Start reading your bible instead of trusting false prophets like Renee Roland!

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    7. Follower, you're VERY NAUGHTY! REPENT or I TICKLE YOU TO DEATH!

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      Faith Love
      Faith Love
      24 minutes ago
      Follower you should be ashamed now...really!!!u have no clue ....stop telling ppl they are not saved. Ur not God!!!
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      Follower
      Follower
      24 minutes ago
      Hans S You're a false disciple. Renee should not be teaching if she smokes cigarettes
      J.M. de Boer
      J.M. de Boer
      22 minutes ago
      Follower Thanks for your hatefull message, just what I need. Ready to kill myself.
      Follower
      Follower
      20 minutes ago
      Faith Love why shouldn't i?
      Follower
      Follower
      19 minutes ago
      J.M. de Boer don't do it you will not go to heaven
      Follower
      Follower
      17 minutes ago
      J.M. de Boer Jesus wants you to repent!
      Follower
      Follower
      12 minutes ago
      J.M. de Boer If you kill yourself you will suffer the eternal consequences but if you repent Christ will help you with your issues
      J.M. de Boer
      J.M. de Boer
      8 minutes ago
      Follower don't care anymore, you can not threaten me with hell or torture. My life is in His hands, not mine, not yours.
      Follower
      Follower
      6 minutes ago
      J.M. de Boer So you're going to kill yourself?
      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 second ago
      J.M de Boer, Once Saved Always Saved, means we're not going to hell, EVEN if we kill ourself.

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    8. Renee, I'm saved FOREVER, even if I blow myself up! Thanks to God's unmerited GRACE through FAITH alone in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS, of course!
      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 second ago
      Bad Medicine,
      NONSENSE!
      Judas was NEVER saved and he didn't really LOVE JESUS!

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      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      32 minutes ago
      J.M. de Boer email me bc many ppl may condemn u n take uour hope. Rolandreelpix@gmail.com
      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      31 minutes ago
      Follower oh stop that. Sin is sin and u stand condemned for the same standard u place on him
      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      29 minutes ago
      Follower repentance from dead works of the law and of faith towards Christ! God repents 38 times and he has no sin. U have not repented of all your sin either and if u think u have u r deceived. Watch my repent playlist or repent or perish video n ill prove to you that God grants true repentance the acknowledging of the truth
      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      29 minutes ago
      Follower u shouldnt speak unless u r sinless too.
      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      28 minutes ago
      Follower sampson and saul committed suicide and were saved. Catholics made that up
      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      27 minutes ago
      Hans S sampson and saul killed themselves and were saved. Catholics made that up bc they think u must confess after every sin
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      Bad Medicine
      Bad Medicine
      11 minutes ago
      J.M. Judas followed Jesus and performed many miracles in Jesus' name. But Judas committed suicide and Jesus said Judas was lost: John 17: 12 "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." Perdition means total loss, destruction, ruin etc.. means he went to hell. But if he had repented of his wicked deeds he might have been saved.

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    9. Renee, I still love you, even though you believe in the GLOBE EARTH LIE! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/06/pray-for-sister-renee.html

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    10. Follower, i already know the TRUTH=JESUS! And JESUS means 'I AM SALVATION' and He has saved me FOREVER from BURNING in His HELL!

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      Bad Medicine
      Bad Medicine
      1 hour ago
      Hans, tell that to Judas.
      Hans S
      Hans S
      55 minutes ago
      Bad Medicine,
      NONSENSE!
      Judas was NEVER saved and he didn't really LOVE JESUS!
      Follower
      Follower
      39 minutes ago
      Bad Medicine Thank you Brother Bad Medicine
      Hans S
      Hans S
      30 minutes ago (edited)
      Follower and Bad Medicine, two Pharisees for the price of one...
      Follower
      Follower
      6 minutes ago
      Hans S I pray God will lead you to truth my friend

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    1. OSAS is unbliblical to those who are UNBIBLICAL: JESUS saves FOREVER those who BELIEVE 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you THE GOSPEL which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how^ that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      ^through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      13 In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

      More: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/1j6qg8yeYnN

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE

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    2. Because it's a REVELATION by God-the Lord JESUS, loonypics

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      loonypics
      loonypics
      2 hours ago
      Renee : So true my dear Sis'. Why can't the LS Crowd see it ??? .

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    3. glorified bodoes?
      Ah, GLORIFIED BODIES!

      One of your very creative typos, Renee!
      Fethry Duck
      What is SIN?
      Disobedience to God-the Lord JESUS.
      In Paradise it was very EASY to serve God: just don't eat of the fruit of the tree of good and evil, and Adam and Eve had still SINLESS and IMMORTAL BODIES....BUT also a FREE WILL.
      I agree with you that no JESUS worshiper (true Christian, according to the teachings of Paul, on behalf of JESUS, and of course a true Christian learns from the entire Bible) wants to sin, but we're still living in a SINFUL and MORTAL BODY, and this body is not interested in obeying JESUS.
      But it can be DISCIPLINED, and that's what we learn from when we are very young.
      Our Body is like a SUPER INTELLIGENT ANIMAL!
      Just like a dog or a dolphin it can be trained to OBEY.
      Did you know that MOST of human communication is BODY LANGUAGE, including the tone of our voice?
      There isn't much difference between humans and animals and God created ALL the animals FIRST!
      I'm an ex-atheist and if you want to know how I think, then read this self written article: Thank God for the creation of ANIMALS http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2015/03/thank-god-for-creation-of-animals.html#more
      You don't HAVE TO agree with me, but this is my way of thinking.

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      Fethry Duck
      Fethry Duck
      13 hours ago
      Renee, while I agree with unconditional eternal security, I totally disagree with easy believism/hyper grace. According to Romans 7::15, a Christian does not want to sin at all
      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      7 hours ago
      Fethry Duck flesh wars against the spirit. Paul sais the inner man wants to serve the law of God but his flesh sin..til we get glorified bodoes we will struggle against it

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    4. And I agree with you that no JESUS worshiper (true Christian, according to the teachings of Paul, on behalf of JESUS, and of course a true Christian learns from the entire Bible) wants to sin.
      But it's very EASY for Satan to MAKE us sin, even when we don't WANT TO sin, because the MORTAL FLESH is his ALLY.
      Romans 7:15-25 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      15 For I allow not that which I do: for what I would, that do I not: but what I hate, that do I.

      16 If I do then that which I would not, I consent to the Law, that it is good.

      17 Now then, it is no more I, that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

      18 For I know, that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me: but I find no means to perform that which is good,

      19 For I do not the good thing, which I would, but the evil, which I would not, that do I.

      20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but the sin that dwelleth in me.

      21 I find then that when I would do good, I am thus yoked, that evil is present with me.

      22 For I delight in the Law of God, concerning the inner man.

      23 But I see another Law in my members, rebelling against the law of my mind, and leading me captive unto the law of sin, which is in my members.

      24 O wretched man that I am, who shall deliver me from the body of this death!

      25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Then I myself in my mind serve the Law of God, but in my flesh the law of sin.

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      Fethry Duck
      Fethry Duck
      5 minutes ago
      I never said we do not struggle. Does it sound like sinless perfectionism what I said? I said a Christian does not WANT to sin

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    5. Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      Satan (Hebrew word) means 'adversary', and when sinners act accordingly, they're adversaries too.

      Dead people don't sin, but dead people also don't do good deeds: they do nothing.
      Yes, when we sin, we want to sin.
      Eve and Adam wanted to know what this knowledge of good and evil is, and God (who's in fact JESUS the creator) told them not to do it, or else they would die.
      The wages of sin is indeed DEATH, and death means separation from God, and that's what happened to them and their offspring, so also to us.
      But then JESUS came and He SOLVED THE PROBLEM!
      Romans 6:23 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      23 For the wages of sin is death: but the gift of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord.

      Romans 8:1-2 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Now then there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus, which walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

      2 For the Law of the Spirit of life which is in Christ Jesus, hath freed me from the Law of sin and of death.

      THANK U JESUS!

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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      3 hours ago
      Fethry Duck... so when you eat that extra cheese burger that you didn't need... you didn't WANT it? I beg to differ... Christians can still WANT to sin. We want to, because if feels good. It doesn't mean we should still do it. You are adding conditions to the gospel... faith PLUS not "wanting" to ever sin again. That's NOT the gospel.
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      3 hours ago
      Hans S... Satan doesn't MAKE anybody sin. We are not robots... when we sin, we do it because we WANT to. God doesn't take away free will from His children.

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  3. Renee Roland liked a video.....
    Reds Rhetoric HATES JESUS Christ, but he believes in the non-existing globe earth and Renee too.....

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    1. MrKev1664
      What's your real name, Roman Catholic?

      You love videos like these by Jon Singleton: Renee Roland Refuted || 1:1 || 1 Corinthians 6 Part 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg3zifuTB_M
      Renee Roland Refuted || 1:2 || 1 Corinthians 6 Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5crIuYHvdw
      Are you sure you're not going to burn forever in the lake of fire?
      Are you saved by god's gift of grace through faith alone in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS?
      Why are you a member of the Roman Catholic torture and death cult and why are you a fan of the pedophile Pope, who happens to be the ANTICHRIST and whose true god is LUCIFER the DEVIL?

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    2. Hi Stacey, MrKev1664 wants to be proud of his own achievements and not of what JESUS has DONE for him and all of us, and he believes in the WRONG gospel: Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
      http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html
      I have done NOTHING to get saved or to keep my salvation: ALL GLORY TO JESUS and His ATONING BLOOD that was shed for our SINS!

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    1. All "Lordship" salvation people should read this: Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
      http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html
      More: https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE

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    1. Decebal Trandafir
      The word CHURCH derives from the word CIRCLE or CIRCUS!
      http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-word-church-derives-from-word.html
      Should we call ourselves a Christian? http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/search?q=Christian

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    2. Decebal Trandafir
      I'm a former ATHEIST who never went to 'church'.

      After JESUS saved me I went to assemblies, but NOT to 'churches', but most evangelical assemblies and 'churches' preach the WRONG GOSPEL so I don't go to such places for quite some time now, because I don't want to be brainwashed by preachers who teach truth mixed with untruth.
      I do like most of the teachings of Robert Breaker, though I don't agree with everything he says.
      My BEST teacher on behalf of JESUS is the Apostle Paul

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      Decebal Trandafir
      Decebal Trandafir
      30 minutes ago
      Hans S Ok. Can you tell me 'cults' from wich word derives? 😁 All church buildings are cults to me. The curch wich apostles was leading 2000 years ago is lost in time. There are many religious denominstions[like adventist church and Jehovah withneses] who clames they are the real church and they follow the same dogma like early christians did,but i dont beleive anyone. I rather play my stupid game then attending to a church. I DONT HATE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING THERE. God bless you ALL.

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    1. +Linus Weber That's possible because there are a LOT of 'Christians' who aren't even born again and saved!
      I call myself a worshiper of JESUS and a follower of HIS gospel through His Apostle Paul.
      That's too long so I call myself a JESUS through Paul-follower.
      The term 'Christian' is very controversial: Should we call ourselves a Christian? https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2014/03/should-we-call-ourselves-christian.html
      I'm a JESUS Christian through Paul! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2015/04/im-jesus-christian.html

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      Linus Weber
      +1
      Nice, even though Bob Wikin teaches Christians will be cast into outer darkness

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    1. mic dhen
      Flat earthers know that Saturn is only a relatively small wandering star in the firmament
      , just like the other planets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7fbX33wOjA

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      mic dhen
      mic dhen
      16 minutes ago
      Flat Earthers think Saturn has Onion Rings!🤓
      (Wrong again!)😠
      (only french fries)😜

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    2. mic dhen
      I give you all that I own if you can show me just ONE undoctored picture of earth as a BALL from 'space'.

      God-the Lord JESUS created the earth round and flat, with a firmament.
      Outside the firmamant/dome/vault is water, just as the Bible says.

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      mic dhen
      mic dhen
      26 minutes ago
      Hans S Of course..That's why they put Rings around it.To keep it from wandering off!
      Hey, a question: Is there water in the firmament/dome, and/or above the firmament/dome, or is it all only on the earth?

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    3. mic dhen, it's clear you're mocking the God-made flat earth truth and I've never done that in public when I was still a deluded globe earther, though I thought that flat earthers are insane.
      They're not insane and all flat earthers are former globe earthers and they will never go back to that stupid globe earth lie concocted by satan and the Vatican.
      So you don't want my MONEY?
      Concerning this topic you reason exactly like the ATHEISTS I confronted after I had become a flat earth truther.
      Try to convince JESUS Christ that the earth He made is a BALL, okay?

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      mic dhen
      mic dhen
      27 minutes ago
      Hans S Thx, but I've already got too much stuff I've got to unload. Want to downsize. Rapture ready...can't take it with us anyways. But thx.

      Also, I have no pictures of Earth from space. I've never been that far out. (Okay, some might debate that.) Let me re-phrase that.
      Barring some weird 'adventures' long ago that I don't recommend to others, and am grateful Jesus forgave, rescued, and delivered me from, (many times shame on me), I've never been that far out.
      Especially not with a camera. So, no pics.

      So anyway... If there IS water in and/or above the firmament/dome/vault, is the water curved or flat?

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    4. Renee, I was a globe/ball earther most of my life and when I was 56, on October 1, 2016, I became a globe earther and I was already saved forever by JESUS's Grace through faith alone in His atoning BLOOD.
      You fight for the gospel and me too and I also fight for the truth, because JESUS is the truth.
      He showed me the truth about the true shape of the earth and He had already convinced me in 2013 that the earth doesn't spin and that it's the center of His creation and NOT the sun.
      You assert the Bible easily supports the globe earth and heliocentrism and I know people who got convinced that the earth is flat by reading that same Bible.
      So now the question is: is there a 'globe earth Jesus' and a 'flat earth Jesus' and do they disagree?
      I know someone who got saved from suicide after he first discovered the flat earth truth.
      According to you he first believed in a lie in his desperation and from there he got saved...or is he still going to burn forever in hell?
      I give you all my money if you can show me just one undoctered picture of the earth as a BALL from 'space'.
      I'm sure you can't because such pictures don't exist: No Photographs of Earth! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyUrw8TJDHM
      Is it possible to believe in the gospel of grace and still be deceived?
      Yes!
      I was deceived when I believed in the globe earth nonsense when I was already saved.


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      Renee Roland
      6 minutes ago
      mic dhen im a ball earther..bible easily supports it. But ppl.can think its flat...i fight for the gospel

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    5. That's relatively young, because you know my mom went to where JESUS is on January 8 when she was 89.
      You know, I just came back (saterday) from a trip to England where my youngest sister (who's 55) lives with her husband, and they are our saved sister and brother in JESUS and they believe in the gospel of grace and they both don't believe (yet) in the flat earth or in the rapture the way I do (pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture), and we have some other differences of opinion, but I love them very much and I want to love you, just like I love them, even though we don't agree on some things, but we do agree on the most important thing and that's the gospel of grace by Paul on behalf of JESUS, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
      Last year I met a nice sister through the internet and she and I seemed to agree on everything, which was too good to be true, and so it was, because she criticized brother Robert Breaker who had helped so much to understand the gospel of grace when I was in a big cricis, and though I also don't agree with everything Robert Breaker teaches, I'm sure he teaches the true gospel and he also loves to be where JESUS is, apart from telling as many people as possible about the saving gospel of grace, and then she disappointed me, but I still love her as my sister, because she really loves my BEST FRIEND, JESUS.
      Those who truly LOVE my BEST FRIEND, JESUS, are my friends even when they don't yet understand yet that JESUS purposely chose a former persecutor of His beloved to become His sole Apostle for His Body, the Body of Christ, and of course I'm talking about Paul.
      Robert Breaker (who's 14 years younger than me) taught me this very important fact when I watched his video: Jesus vs Paul https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VATqbEwc2E&feature=share
      This sister also said I idolized Robert, which isn't true, because I'm only so very grateful that JESUS had put this brother in 2016 on my spiritual path during a time when I was still coping with the loss of my ex and her entire family and when I didn't care whether I was dead or alive.
      JESUS sent me back to school and I had no problems to accept Robert as my teacher, and it was Robert who contacted me through e-mail and not vice versa, because he wanted to investigate why I (as a Dutchman) prefer the Geneva Bible, because he had noticed that I promoted his videos when he still was relatively unknown.
      This is my latest promotion of one of his recent videos: FACE TO FACE with JESUS by Robert Breaker https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/07/face-to-face-with-jesus-by-robert.html
      From the start when JESUS saved me, now more than 34 years ago, I long to be where JESUS is, and this song from that time expresses this longing best: Undercover - Boys and Girls - I'd Rather Stay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0p_t-hhYl4
      Do you also long to be where our maker and Savior JESUS is, Renee?

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      Hans S
      Hans S
      4 hours ago
      It's true, Renee, and your mom is still pretty!
      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      46 minutes ago
      She is 70 in 3 days

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    6. mic dhen
      Your sense of humor will be tested when you realize WHY satan concocted the GLOBE EARTH LIE!

      You really did your best to try to impress me by using your OWN language to a Dutchman, or shall I now continue in Dutch to show my sense of humor?
      Dat kan ik uiteraard doen, maar dat doe ik niet: Of course I can do that but I don't.
      Thanks for your long reply, which shows you have pondered about it.
      James is only 10 years old and he's already been brainwashed by the globe earth lie, which also happened to me (and BILLIONS of others) when I was a child through the 'educational' (mind control) system.
      Here's a man with a great sense of humor who attacks the globe earth bull crap through his songs: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/04/down-with-goddamn-nasa-praise-jesus.html
      Many people just don't WANT TO know that this world is ruled by satan through the Vatican and the JESUITS, and for example the Jesuits concocted the 'Big Bang' LIE, with devastating consequences: The Bloody History of ATHEISM, Communism, Fascism, Nazism, SATANISM https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-bloody-history-of-atheism-communism.html
      Atheism=satanism cannot thrive WITHOUT the globe earth lie! ��
      The globe earth lie is pure SATANISM!
      But I have 'no sense of humor'......
      I'm so GLAD that JESUS and NOT anybody else showed me the flat earth truth, even though it's not about eternal salvation.
      So to me you're trying to tell me that JESUS is NUTS. ������
      I can't use those funny smileys so I steal them from you. ��
      You know why satan=adversary is so successful?
      Because it's so EASY to DECEIVE people!
      If he can make them believe the earth is a BALL, he can control them and they don't even know it.
      So many believers in JESUS believe in the TRUTH=JESUS while at the same time they're preaching and teaching lies, and most of them aren't even aware.
      Try to convince this ATHEIST that the earth is a BALL: The ATHEIST Flat Earther https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-atheist-flat-earther.html
      Don't worry GLOBEHEADS: Satan is on your side! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/01/dont-worry-globeheads-satan-is-on-your.html
      JESUS is not dead and the earth is flat https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/01/jesus-is-not-dead-and-earth-is-flat.html
      Satan loves NASA! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/02/satan-loves-nasa.html

      Are you still laughing?
      JESUS and I do...at satan and his STUPID BALL earth LIE!
      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 second ago
      mic dhen
      To answer your question: I believe that outside the flat earth system there's WATER as far as the eye can see and it's neither curved nor flat and I believe we live in a HUGE 'submarine' which is moving 'upward' so that we get that sense of 'gravity'.
      This system is also God's FOOTSTOOL:

      Matthew 5:34-36 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all, neither by heaven, for it is the throne of God:

      35 Nor yet by the earth, for it is his FOOTSTOOL: neither by Jerusalem: for it is the city of the great King.

      36 Neither shalt thou swear by thine head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.

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    7. JESUS isn't resting His holy feet on a FAST SPINNING BALL! ������
      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 second ago
      Flat Earth on Dutch T.V http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2017/10/flat-earth-on-dutch-tv.html

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      mic dhen
      2 minutes ago
      Hans S Wrong again, Flatso. Look, Hans, I don't want to fight w you, brother. I didn't then and I don't now. I'm a saved believer in Jesus, you claim to be, too. Great! That makes us bros in Christ...by HIS grace and HIS decision, not anything WE did, so keep that in mind, ok?

      I made a joke for my friends, Renee and JimJim. That10yr old lad is smart enough to know the Earth is round. He has also had intelligent conversations AND good-natured ribbing with FEers, as have I. Sadly, there only seems to be a few ppl that are FEers that can also kid around, and not get all snotty about it when someone thinks they're nuts. It's called having a sense of humor and not taking yourself too seriously.

      One is a very sweet sister and intelligent Bible believer, she's a saved believer in Jesus, believes in pre-trib rapture (properly, imo) and has a heart for the truth. She supports Renee's osas, grace alone, biblically true position. She's one of our many beautiful sisters in Christ, her initials are VS. She also believes in the FlatEarth theory, so she's a nutso!
      ������

      Another one has a very thought provoking channel, hosts some very intersting livestreams, and ALSO believes in Jesus and the truth of salvation by grace thru faith in Jesus Christ alone, so is a brother in Christ. He happens to be post-trib (I think), and is a FEer as well, so he's a DOUBLE nutso. ����His initials are MV. You might know him.

      Now, JimJim loves science and math and kidding around, too. So when he made a joke about Onion Rings, I thought of the Rings of Saturn. (Space humor has been in the news lately) So I made a joke about Flat Earthers believing Saturn had Onion Rings. (Then I said, no, only french fries ��������)

      That's when you chimed in with your humorless spiel on why you think the Earth is flat, and that everyone must believe it like you or they're anti-Bible. ��
      A little more sarcasm from me...a little more 'high-and-mighty' from you...next thing you know you're challenging Renee Roland to prove her Holy Spirit is hipper than yours is! ��

      Oh well. More of the same meanspiritedness from a FEer that sadly is all too common. But at least it helps me appreciate bros/sis like VS and MV all the more! ☺️

      Btw, where are all the undoctored pictures from space of a FLAT Earth?
      And you still haven't answered the Q about the water in or above the dome ... Is it flat or curved?
      God bless you, brother. And relax, the Bible says (if you can believe it...the Mandelites say you can't) that God is gonna make a new Heaven and Earth. The old one will burn away, or something like that. Then I guess, when the old rock is burning, the shape of it won't seem as important.
      Speaking of which ...
      If someone tries to prophesy to you that they know the shape of the new earth in advance...?
      Don't believe 'em!
      IT'S A TRAP.....ezoid! ��
      (Lol, see what I did there?��)
      Oh, brother. °~°

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    8. mic dhen
      You don't get it: God-the Lord JESUS isn't dependent upon the laws of physics
      he created Himself and He's ABOVE all laws we're subjected to and that's why He could walk upon water!
      So when the flat and round earth with a firmament moves 'upward' He's not feeling it because He's NOT a human being of flesh and blood but GOD!
      He made the firmament big enough so that His feet can rest on it, even though it's round, but not too round.
      Try to convince brother Rob Skiba that the earth is a BALL: Biblical Flat Earth Conference in Amsterdam - Part 2: A Seed War, the Beast and a Strong Delusion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5pusPMlYSE
      Yes, JESUS loves us! 😜

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      mic dhen
      2 hours ago
      Hans S
      •MY DOG'S GOT NO NOSE. 😟

      ••How does he smell? 😦

      •AWFUL!!!😲
      —–—–—
      Okay, Flatsum, I take it back...You've got a GREAT sense of humor!
      (That one about Jesus can't rest His Holy feet on a fast spinning ball is a riot!🤣🤣🤣)
      But seriously 😃 it might be therapeutic. It might be stimulating, and could get kind of tingly on His toes, plus, all the fast-spinning skyscrapers could help scrub the scaly bits off His heels. Followed by a nice foot-soaking in all the saltwater.

      So let me get this picture correctly...
      God/Jesus is sitting on the throne of heaven. (Is this a fluffy throne like on the clouds? Or a hard white porcelain throne? Does it recline? And have pillows? (It IS heaven, you know, so it's gotta have comfy cushions and fluffy pillows!).

      Now, He has his feet up on the Earth for a footstool, right? Are His legs fully stretched out, or are His knees bent?
      In other words, are the soles of His feet flat down on the FlatEarth? Or are His heels on the FlatEarth, with His toesies sticking up?
      They can't be up on the dome, because that would be ... round? And they would slip off, right? Isn't that what you were implying? He can't have His feet on a round footstool, so the Earth MUST be flat?

      So His feet are on the flatstool, which is like an ever-rising (up?) yellow submarine we all live in.
      And we should assume the throne of heaven is rising upward, too, otherwise, only His feet would be going up, up, up and WOAH! WHEE! FLIPSIES!! Can't have that!
      So...All of this PROVES that the Earth MUST be flat, because a round earth footstool for the Creator of the universe would be .....
      RIDICULOUS! 😳

      Praise the Lord...A merry heart doeth good like a medicine 😃!
      God bless you, brother! Jesus loves you!
      ✝️☺️👍

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    9. mic dhen
      Before I believed in the flat earth truth and before I believed in OSAS
      I was called WORSE THAN SATAN by a 'friendly and kind' OSAS-adherent with a 'good sense of humor'.
      Rob Skiba is SAVED and he's MY brother in Christ JESUS, but your jesus doesn't know this and he dislikes the flat earth REALITY..
      All convinced globe earthers who refuse to investigate GOD's flat earth truth are on the side of the Vatican, the Jesuits and NAZI-NASA and the devil concerning this subject.
      JESUS will show you what a fool you are in this respect, and you mock and scoff those who were drawn to JESUS after they discovered the flat earth truth. 😲

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      mic dhen
      mic dhen
      2 hours ago
      Hans S Lol, I get it just fine. I don't know any Rob Skiba or whether he's saved (a brother) or not.
      I DO know that if he believes God is some big giant dude floating around on a puffy throne with His feet propped up on an invisible dome (which may or may not be curved and may or may not contain water which water ALSO may or may not be curved) covering an earth that HAS to be flat because it's God's LITERAL FOOTSTOOL, then, brother...it's time to play 'Spot the Looney'!

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    10. Deb Jones JESUS is not dead and the earth is flat so that every eye can see Him when He'll return https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s3aKTE I subscribed to you! <3JESUS<3

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      Deb Jones
      Deb Jones
      8 hours ago
      Mic, I am with you all the way on the MandelaCult. They nearly had me sucked in deep -- UNTIL I started reading the bible for myself and God showed me these verses and instances have always been there!!!!!

      For a long time I trolled them too. EYA (EXTOL YESHUA ALWAYS-- no she does not!!!) is a witch. I was in her secret facebook group for quite sometime and let me say shes a total deceiver on many fronts and aspects of our faith. You right about this brother. To twist and manipulate the words of God the way they do is downright blasphemous.

      However...that I agree with you there, I also believe the earth is a immovable level plane -- flat. Those darn Jesuit / Freemasons sculpted our history to fit their narrative. The narrative there are aliens from outer space, when in fact there are only demons. There will come a time when they use the deception on us that we have been invaded. Remember Ronald Reagans speech about "It will take some outside force for us all to come together....." https://youtu.be/Ag44dRO8LEA

      Anyhow, there are many people out there actually PROVING earth is not a ball. Water exposes the global lie (and earth is mostly made of water).
      Let me know if you want me to hook you up with another brother in Christ who helped me understand it.... he does a fantastic presentation. The ball earth was created actually to HIDE GOD .... I know. Crazy...but true. I had a difficult time accepting also. Blessing to you and Miss Renee dear hearts. Much love

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    11. mic dhen
      "You, sir, are an idiot" "Flatsy"

      There's NO difference between you and atheists who desperately cling to their beloved JESUIT concocted LIES, concerning this issue.
      You're calling JESUS Christ, God manifested in the flesh an IDIOT, because He didn't make a satanic spinning ball in 'space' called earth, but a flat and round plane with a firmament.
      You're on the side of the Nazis who founded NASA, because they didn't lose the war, because they went to America, with the aid of the EVIL Vatican, which is the satanic Roman Empire.
      I already knew this before I became a flat earther.
      Wake up 'American', because you live in the most evil country that ever existed!
      Your country financed BOTH Hitler and Stalin on behalf of the POPE and Satan, causing MILLIONS of deaths and even more MILLIONS of traumatized people, like my late MOTHER when Hitler invaded my country.
      You dare to call me arrogant?
      Have you ever looked in the mirror?

      I AM A CITIZEN OF HEAVEN, thanks to JESUS!

      You are a PROUD AMERICAN, and proud Americans are VERY DANGEROUS, because they're MURDERING and MAIMING people all over the world, and all because they're too stupid to see that they're being used by the devil and his JESUITS and the Vatican.
      You may SLAUGHTER me or BURN ME ALIVE me if you can show me just ONE REAL picture of earth from 'space'.
      Yes there are no pictures from above of the flat and round earth and you know why?
      Because God made it IMPOSSIBLE to make such pictures!!!
      The STUPID ROCKETS that all 'aerospace countries' fire into the SKY, based on NAZI-technology can't get HIGH enough to make such pictures.
      You have been fooled by the devil and his Vatican!
      And something else: NUCLEAR WEAPONS DON'T EXIST http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/01/nuclear-weapons-dont-exist.html

      Nuclear danger is a HOAX!!! It is only heat!
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2016/09/nuclear-danger-is-hoax-it-is-only-heat.html

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    12. mic dhen
      54 minutes ago
      Hans S Oh why don't you shut up and get off your arrogant high horse with your false accusations!
      Ok, well at least I have Deb Jones to add to my list of DECENT FEers, (even tho I disagree w the FE theories) along with who I mentioned before, VS and MV , most ppl here know who I mean. Deb Jones, ty for at least being gracious and understanding some humor....

      But you, Hans?! Your arrogant meanspiritedness has gone too far, and it's really disappointing!

      I was kidding around with my young christian friend, and you stuck your nastiness into it.
      Thanks for the good cheer, Flatsy.
      Calling me a devil or jesuit follower, is the same stinkin low blow I see vomitting out of the mouths of 90+% of FlatEarth peanutbrains like you. I told a joke, so what, big deal, to my young christian friend, who has more intelligence AND good cheer in his little finger than most FEers have in their warped heads.

      And BTW, Don't call my little brother brainwashed, you flatz.
      MAN, you're just another typical vicious flat rat, aren't ya?

      And telling me MY Jesus is somehow inferior to your god who's sitting on a fluffy throne with his feet propped up on an INVISIBLE CURVED DOME with CURVED WATER, overtop a Flat Earth that HAS to be flat because it's his footstool and his feet would fall off, even though NOW you say his feet aren't even on the 'flat earth', they're on the curved dome?!
      You, sir, are an idiot.

      I've seen a few 'somewhat' reasonable, though disputable, theories as to why some ppl might believe in a flat earth. But...
      this scripture-twisting you appeal to, about God's heavenly throne and Earth being His LITERAL footstool is about as doofish as Hinn trying to tell us there are 3 Trinities in the Godhead!
      And YOU're gonna come on HERE and insult a young boy's intelligence?, and his mother as well?
      Some nerve!

      Hans...YOU are the one that said the Earth has to be FLAT because it's God's footstool. THEN you said His feet are actually on the CURVED dome part.
      Do you hear what you're saying?!

      It can't be round because it's His footstool, so it has to be flat, but His feet aren't on the flat earth but the round dome??!! ��

      Hans, I don't know who this Rob Skiba guru is you're following, but it sounds like he's manipulating people and messin' with their heads!
      I hope you get away from that, and just stand on the SOLID ROCK of Jesus Christ.

      (And, NO, that does NOT mean He's LITERALLY made of stone!) ✝️��☺️

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    13. Steve Rosberg, You're not nosey when you're looking at my channel (or my sites) because that is what the internet is meant for: investigate anything you want.
      Yes, Deep Purple was my favorite band, but I loved many other bands too from several countries and for example Deep Purple is an English band with an American guitarist and they had an American guitarist before, but I also loved Alice Cooper, Grand Funk Railroad, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors from the US and Black Sabbath, Uriah Heep and Nazareth and UFO and later the Stranglers from the UK and Golden Earring, Focus and KayaK from my country, and many more, and after JESUS had been so very graceful to save me from going to hell, I discovered Christian rock music like Mylon LeFevre, Saint, UNDERCOVER, STRYPER, Jerusalem from Sweden and MANY more, like 2nd Chapter of Acts.
      Saint - Warriors Of The Son (JESUS), still the best of the best http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/06/saint-warriors-of-son-jesus-still-best.html
      Jerusalem - In His Majesty's Service [FULL ALBUM, 1985, Christian Hard Rock] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6pIeWgYMa4
      But I love many kinds of music and not only hard rock/metal and for example this is me singing along with a recording from a sister from Australia: JESUS is Coming Back Quickly - Lynne & Hans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PehK9lh46A
      And this is me playing along with the former and original guitarist of Deep Purple after the passing away of my mom who's gone to be with JESUS and this was my way of grieving: Deep Purple - Living Wreck - guitar solo cover - Hans S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSWbcAuxKDs&feature=youtu.be

      I've never been into pure satanic bands because I like NWOBHM Bands http://www.metalinjection.net/lists/10-criminally-overlooked-nwobhm-bands because I like 'sexy music' with humor and sophistication, and that's why I still like Deep Purple's style because their range is from very melodic and classical to very hard and heavy, but also Uriah Heep is a good example, and check out the music that go along with my testimony: JESUS is my BEST FRIEND! What about you? http://xembryo.blogspot.com/2014/09/jesus-is-my-best-friend-what-about-you.html
      Can you imagine that I also like this: Madness - One Step Beyond (Official Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOJSM46nWwo

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      Steve Rosberg
      40 minutes ago
      Hans S. I was being nosey and looking at your channel and I like some of the music you posted like deep purple sandy coast etc etc. I've never been a huge huge fan of the hard rock stuff but I did go through a phase of it when I was a kid. I was a big fan if NWOBHM and the la thrash attack.

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    14. mic dhen
      I decide to be GRACEFUL to you.

      It's so EASY to respond FROM THE FLESH, but I'm as DEAD as a DODO, though JESUS raised me from the spiritual death!
      This is not your or my TERRITORY and the ENTIRE internet belongs to Satan and I love to ANNOY him whenever and wherever I can by talking about JESUS as much as I can.
      I did not insult Jim or Renee, and you're NOT their DADDY/HUSBAND!
      Yes, I believe you love JESUS Christ, but if you're truly detached from stupid NATIONALISM and PATRIOTISM and if you truly belong the the KINGDOM OF GOD then you MUST agree with JESUS and ME or your eternity will turn out to be a HELLISH experience, because I'm NOT going to BURN IN HELL FOR YOU to satisfy your GOD-COMPLEX!
      You'll have to KILL me first to 'prove' you're 'right' and I am 'wrong' and then you'll only do me a favor because then I'm with JESUS and then you have proven that your FLESH still loves to DOMINATE your MIND.
      Rob Skiba is NOT my 'guru' and in fact I discovered him later after I had become a flat earther, and I mostly agree with what he says, but not with everything because like so many people with a CHURCH-background, which I DON'T HAVE as a FORMER ATHEIST, he believes in the OCCULT GARBAGE called 'the book of Enoch'.
      Do you know I was kicked out of the 'Biblical Flat Earth community' on Google plus and do you know why?
      Because almost all of them believe in the WRONG GOSPEL and NOT in the gospel of GRACE.
      They almost tried to LYNCH me, so to speak, when I confronted them with their fallacy.
      Christians can be just as EVIL and ROTTEN as 'unbelievers', unless they're DEAD!
      ONLY DEAD PEOPLE DON'T SIN.
      They also don't do GOOD!
      But I'm not afraid to be BLOCKED and to be kicked out of communities of UNTRUSTWORTHY people, because JESUS is my BEST FRIEND!
      This was the video that convinced me the earth is FLAT on October 1, 2016: Scientific EVIDENCE of a Flat Earth http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2016/10/scientific-evidence-of-flat-earth.html
      But in 2013 I was already convinced the earth is NOT spinning and that it's the CENTER of God's creation, and I already knew that the 'manned moon landings' were FAKE and that 'satellites' DON'T EXIST.

      You really don't know how ROTTEN and EVIL the JESUITS are!
      Flat Earth: Exposing the Jesuit Agenda! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibp4mIS54jo

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      mic dhen
      3 hours ago
      Hans S Yes I call you arrogant! You came on Renees channel after I made a simple friendly joke with her son. You took the fun out of it by immediately going into a serious 'FlatEarth' spiel.
      After a little more sarcastic needling, your nasty nose got snipped and you went for the generalizations and condemnations, all the while making ASININE statements about God LITERALLY sitting with His feet propped up on Earth!
      YOU made the claim that the Earth MUST be flat because it's God's footstool.
      Then you changed THAT scripture twisting, and decided His feet are actually resting on a dome!
      A CURVED dome.
      With water!
      Those are YOUR twisted versions of scripture and strange view of God, imo.
      Yet, when challenged, you skip over your own claims and go on attacking me with false accusations, lumping me in with groups that I neither ascribe to, nor want to.
      You attacked a 10yr old kid, you insulted his Mom, Renee Roland, and you falsely accuse me ... Who WAS calling you brother, saying 'I wasnt here to fight', that 'ok, so I think ppl who believe in FE are nuts, but I still have a few that I consider bro/sis in Christ and love as such', ...
      but THAT WASNT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU!


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    15. And you continue to falsely accuse me, even of siding with the Vatican and even satan???!!! You lying, false accusing *@#$!

      Ok, boy, you want to be a lowlife, go ahead. You are ANOTHER in a growing list of FEers who turns into a false accusing jackal as soon as you find someone who doesn't believe in your little pet flat earth theory.
      I've come across your type before, I doubt you'll be the last.

      It doesn't matter, the Lord Jesus Christ is my God and Saviour, and there's no more condemnation for those in Christ Jesus.
      So hurl your lies and false accusations all you want. You do not know me, you do not know what I believe regarding America, OR WW2, OR the RC/Vatican abominations, OR NASA. You simply make generalized, group assumptions and condemnations based on the fact that I think the FlatEarth theory is wrong, and that your silly TWISTING OF SCRIPTURE to try to prove it, is moronic!

      PLUS, you still haven't addressed your own contradictory claims, you skipped right over them to continue your diversionary attack with false accusations against me.
      YOU made the claims, Hans.
      YOU said the Earth had to be flat because it's God's footstool. Then YOU contradicted yourself and said His feet were on some invisible curved dome.
      YOU made those claims following what started as a playful joke with a young christian regarding OnionRings.
      And YOU, Hans, YOU, have yet to plainly address the claims you made, rather, you keep trying to shove your FE theory at others, shilling for others by posting link after link of other ppls channels... And doing it on RENEE'S channel, the same one where you insulted her son AND her! You've got some nerve, Hans! Her channel isnt for spewing nonsense by other flat earth profiteers and possible wolves.
      Her channel is about salvation in Jesus Christ, the gift of God.

      I'm checking your FE guru Skiba, but I'm not touching your links. I'm already suspicious about him...if he is who I think, I suggest you find another teacher...one about the gospel of grace, not law and flat earth theories.
      Believe in FE if you want, Hans, but not thru scriptorture, and because you follow after a possible false teacher.

      I'm suggesting that for your own sake, just suggesting.
      But if you come back at me with another false accusation and condemnation, you prove you're not interested in brotherhood in Christ, but only promoting your FE theory agenda while avoiding the earlier claims you made about God and scripture.
      Meanwhile, do you think maybe you owe JimJim and Renee both an apology?, which I'm sure they, as I, would be happy to accept and forgive. We ARE christians.

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    16. Fethry Duck Here: Open Secrets http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2014/09/open-secrets.html I'm Just A Singer In A Rock And Roll Band http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/04/im-just-singer-in-rock-and-roll-band.html Yes, I know pastor Bob. Great guy and brother in JESUS!

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      Fethry Duck
      Fethry Duck
      1 hour ago
      Hans S amen
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      Fethry Duck
      Fethry Duck
      1 hour ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqEa2RL-PJY
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      Fethry Duck
      Fethry Duck
      1 hour ago
      Great music choice, I like them, I also like bands like Rush or Moody Blues

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  9. Dedicated to Renee 'Roland' and all DECEIVED 'GLOBE' EARTHERS who believe in the Gospel of Grace, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
    JESUS is the way, the life and the TRUTH and the globe earth is a BIG FAT LIE!

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    1. What is the gospel of inclusion? https://www.gotquestions.org/gospel-of-inclusion.html

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    2. PureWord KJV
      I made a topic about him on my site
      : TO HELL WITH 'ETERNAL TORMENT'?? https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/05/to-hell-with-eternal-torment.html

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      oldonetwoable
      oldonetwoable
      2 months ago
      PureWord KJV why do you call him Luke Boozer, does he have a drinking problem?
      PureWord KJV
      PureWord KJV
      2 months ago
      That is his name.

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    3. Jeff Reid
      You're in fact accusing GOD-the LORD JESUS to be a sexist!

      Eve started this whole misery on earth by listening to Satan and Satan knew 'if I can get the women on my side, then I can get all of humanity on my side', because ALL people are born out of WOMEN and women are the first people who teach their children all kinds of things and among them religion and spirituality.
      Who teach Muslims, Hindus, Roman Catholics etc. about their false religion?
      In most cases their mothers.
      Of course the OPPOSITE is also true, because mothers who are saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit are excellent teachers of their children, but what happened to Eve?
      Her first child became the first murderer in history because she had taken the lead.
      Of course it also was Adam's first child and this must have been a huge disaster to the first parents in history when they found out that their first son had killed his younger brother, because Abel's sacrifice was correct in the eyes of God and Cain's sacrifice was rejected by God, which made him unreasonably angry out of jealousy and pride.
      "The pastor of my church happens to be a woman"
      This is SATANISM!
      Women who want to be pastors are being led by the devil and NOT by the Holy Spirit, who is JESUS in spiritual capacity.
      What many rebellious women say is that Adam had failed to be a leader, and that's TRUE, but this doesn't give them an excuse to take the lead!
      JESUS is the SECOND ADAM and He corrected Adam in MANY ways being a MAN, and then He saved Saul and He turned Him into our Apostle Paul and Paul became our teacher and prophet on behalf of JESUS.
      I love Renee, but I agree with the criticism in this video.

      This was very shocking to me, because I've learned a lot from my 14 years YOUNGER brother Robert Breaker, who I respect:

      Salvation in the tribulation. Robert Breaker is a stupid retard! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjL9skB4gQA

      And what did Renee say?

      Renee Roland
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjL9skB4gQA&lc=UgxAOiQwpu6tWpTbSW14AaABAg
      Robert is wrong on this works doctrine but he is a brother in Christ. He is just in error on this...maybe he will take correction on this bc nobodus works will ever be good enough to save them nor has it ever been. Ppl jave always been and always will b saved by God's grace through the redemptive work of Jesus...before and after the cross bc God is in eternity and Jesus is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Its not possible for the elect to be deceived so they cant tske the mark..god wont allow it. Its never been works nor will it be. Maybe he needs correction but he is a real brother..he just needs correction

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      Renee didn't tell 'jacksmack77' that he had gone too far and she in fact added her own criticism, which was contrary the Biblical truth.
      She also believes that fallen angels had sex with earthly women, generating the giants in Genesis 6, which is a lie:
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/search/label/Genesis%206 And she believes that the 'book of Enoch' should be taken serious, while I know it's occult and a fraud.
      And she believes the earth is a globe, which is what the Vatican and Nazi-NASA wants: https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s3aKTE

      I'm Hans from the Netherlands, and I'm 58 years old/young and I'm an ex-atheist and I'm reading the Bible in Dutch and in English I prefer the Geneva Bible 1599. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+15%3A1-4&version=GNV

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      Jeff Reid
      Jeff Reid
      2 months ago
      I got saved back in September of 2017 after I watched one of Renee's videos, in which she clearly presented the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Long story, but I spent years as a n outspoken atheist. Now I am an extremely enthusiastic Christian!

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    4. But regarding women, as with many things in Scripture, you have to consider context, and that includes cultural context. The teaching on women and their place and roles naturally reflects the low status they had in that ancient culture. Paul was raised in a culture that held women in very low esteem. So of course his teaching and opinions reflects the cultural views he was raised with. His opinions are a reflection of the society he lived in, not thus says the Lord.

      The pastor of my church happens to be a woman, and I have exactly zero issues with that. And I have exactly zero issues with women teaching and ministering.

      Yes, you do come across as sexist, and that's because you are, and you are hiding behind Scripture in an attempt to justify your prejudice against women. It always amazes me how often people hide behind Scripture or twist it so they can justify their sin in their own minds as somehow being acceptable. Sexism is a sin, and you need to stop using Scripture to try to justify your sin and repent of it.

      As for Renee's views and lack of willingness to be corrected, you have certainly raised some legitimate concerns. I will absolutely join you in prayer for her, and I appreciate your affirmation that she is a genuine sister in Christ. And I will say that though I strongly disagree with your sexist views and I find them very distasteful, I believe you are a brother in Christ, and I will lift you up in prayer as well. God bless you and have a great day in Jesus!
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      PureWord KJV
      PureWord KJV
      2 months ago
      Paul's opinions are Scripture. That's why it's in the word of God.
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      PureWord KJV
      PureWord KJV
      2 months ago
      And you need to flee women pastor's. It's unbiblical. As an elder to a new believer, I am telling you that you are in error.
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      Jeff Reid
      Jeff Reid
      2 months ago
      You criticize Renee for not submitting to correction, and then you do the exact same thing. Hypocrite!

      I am not the one who is in error here, you are. And I am publicly calling you out.

      Nice job hiding behind convenient Scripture and using it to justify your sin once again. Paul's opinions are in Scripture because what we regard as Scripture today started out as letters from Paul to different churches that existed at the time. He expressed God's thoughts and intentions, but also plenty of his own opinions, which were inevitably shaped by the time and culture he was raised in. Paul's personal opinions are not meant to be taken as valid for all time for all people everywhere. And his personal opinions are not binding on us.

      As for my pastor, she is an amazing woman of God, and men who have been Christians far longer than I have recently voted her into that position. They don't have a problem with a woman being our pastor and neither do I. The blessing and powerful annointing of God rests on my pastor, and I certainly will not be leaving our church. The worship is amazing, and the Spirit of God regularly does wonderful things. God obviously doesn't have a problem with our female pastor. Yet you do. Because you are a woman-hating sexist. And again, you need to repent of your sin.
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      PureWord KJV
      PureWord KJV
      2 months ago
      I'm teaching the truth. Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? I am not in error. You and your cult leader Renee are. That's what people like you do! You follow people instead of Jesus.
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      PureWord KJV
      PureWord KJV
      2 months ago
      @Jeff Reid: don't bother replying until you humble yourself. I am done with your foolishness.
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      dehallmo's Thunderhaus
      dehallmo's Thunderhaus
      2 months ago
      your church is a congregation of damnable heretics worshipping phony jesus satan.
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      Wayne Crook
      Wayne Crook
      2 months ago
      Are you referring to Jeff Reid with that comment Eric?
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      dehallmo's Thunderhaus
      dehallmo's Thunderhaus
      2 months ago
      HI WAYNE, YES, i CHECKED OUT HIS CONGREGATION. IT IS PENTECOSTAL.

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    1. 30:02 The Last Days Ministries *Laura*
      Thanks for this information and though I agree with your criticism, I don't agree with your VERDICT (as if you are God) that Renee 'Roland' is NOT saved, which means she's going to burn in the lake of fire FIRE FOREVER, according to you.
      Renee LOVES JESUS Christ, so this does NOT apply to her:
      1 Corinthians 16:22 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV) 22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be had in execration maran-atha.

      1 Corinthians 16:22 World English Bible (WEB) 22 If any man doesn’t love the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be accursed. Come, Lord!

      These are my personal problems with what Renee believes:
      She's AGAINST the Biblical flat earth truth: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/06/pray-for-sister-renee.html
      She asserts that the OCCULT 'book of Enoch' can be taken seriously while I know it's a FRAUD: The Book of Enoch is SATANIC GARBAGE! https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-book-of-enoch-is-satanic-garbage.html
      She criticizes Robert Breaker on his teaching that before and after the existence of the Body of Christ in this dispensation of GRACE, sinners were and will be saved according to their WORKS out of FAITH and LOVE for God, and she doesn't agree with this:
      Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
      http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html

      Please watch this video: Some thoughts on Renee Roland https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=770&v=pDp3uIX9XuQ

      I believe that in this dispensation of GRACE sinners get saved by the UNMERITED GIFT of God's GRACE through FAITH alone in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS Christ that was shed for our SINS and through FAITH in His resurrection from the dead, according to the scriptures, and (very importantly!) because of their LOVE for HIM, because He first loved us!
      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      LOVING JESUS Christ and (y)our fellow man is NOT a work but ESSENTIAL.

      I acknowledge you as my sister in JESUS Christ and ask yourself this question: do you LOVE Renee 'Roland' when you publicly assert that she's NOT saved?
      What is you MOTIVE to say so?

      Greeting from Hans, from the Netherlands, 58 years old/young and I'm a former atheist and I'm SAVED FOREVER by God's AMAZING GRACE, and JESUS happens to be GOD:
      Isaiah 9:6 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      6 For unto us a child is born, and unto us a Son is given: and the government is upon his shoulder, and he shall call his name, Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The prince of peace.

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      The Last Days Ministries *Laura*
      4 days ago
      NOTE: THIS MINISTRY TO AN APOLOGETICS MINISTRY. IT IS NOT ABOUT ATTACKING PEOPLE IT IS ABOUT TESTING WHAT PEOPLE SAY BY SCRIPTURE.. HERE IS AN EXPLAINATION OF THIS CHANNEL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMsfptdWDcQ
      IF YOU START SAYING THAT IM ATTACKING PEOPLE YOUR COMMENT WILL NOT BE ENTERTAINED AND WILL BE REMOVED DIRECTLY.

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    2. The Last Days Ministries *Laura*
      32:26

      You end your video with 'REPENT AND TRUST JESUS' and that's NOT the Gospel of Paul ON BEHALF OF JESUS:
      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you THE GOSPEL which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, if ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how^ that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      ^through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      13 In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

      More: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/1j6qg8yeYnN

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE

      It's BELIEVE in JESUS Christ, according to 1 Corinthians 15;1-4 and REPENT AFTER having been saved, and NOT out of FEAR to LOSE eternal salvation or to earn salvation or to keep salvation, but out of LOVE and GRATITUDE for and to JESUS.

      I'm an EX-ATHEIST=God denier and I have never been a 'Christian' and I will never become a 'Christian'! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2014/03/should-we-call-ourselves-christian.html
      I'm a worshiper of JESUS Christ according to the teachings of the Apostle Paul. http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2015/04/im-jesus-christian.html

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    1. I'm saved by the unmerited gift of God's grace through faith alone in the atoning BLOOD of JESUS whom I LOVE, and I prefer the Geneva Bible 1599: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/search/label/BIBLE
      Thanks for this video!

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    1. OSAS is the Gospel John 6:47
      UNFORTUNATELY you're right.....

      Pray for sister Renee: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/06/pray-for-sister-renee.html

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      OSAS is the Gospel John 6:47
      1 week ago
      Renee’s channel has become a magnet for heretics.
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      Jason Cripps
      Jason Cripps
      1 week ago
      I am a heretic then by your incorrect judgment.

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    2. Kathy Henderson
      Amen Kathy, all saved and born again worshipers of God-the Lord JESUS
      should ONLY follow Him and His appointed teacher for us, the Apostle Paul!
      If we would be in solitary confinement, but with a (good) Bible, we would be spiritually fed with everything we need.

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      Kathy Henderson
      1 week ago
      Amen sister...I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when I seen this video of hers!! I had to laugh out loud when you said this is like asking the pope to explain the bible....we can't make this stuff up....this is really happening and right before our eyes.
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      Steve Rosberg
      Steve Rosberg
      1 week ago
      Kathy Henderson. Hmmmmmmm
      Kathy Henderson
      Kathy Henderson
      1 week ago
      Steve Rosberg...Hmmmmmm what?
      This man Andrew Wommack is a heretic, if you think not then go listen to what he believes, or did you even watch this video?
      I'm not associating with those who follow heretics. What fellowship does the light have with the darkness? NONE.

      You and the Rolandnites follow your golden calf instead of God's word period. She preaches another jesus. Inclusionism gospel, and annihilationism.
      Steve Rosberg
      Steve Rosberg
      1 week ago
      Kathy Henderson. Never heard of Womack. I only listen to Ralph Yankee Arnold Afshin Yaghtin and Curtis Huston. They are the only ones that dont change waffle or flip flop the gospel like so many other preachers. And I only follow a few teachers with Renee being one of them. Would it be better if I followed Steven Anderson.
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      Kathy Henderson
      Kathy Henderson
      1 week ago (edited)
      Steve Rosberg What would be best is if you follow God and his word only. Renee promoting Andrew Wommacks teachings throws up red flags for me. I love her but it breaks my heart what she's doing whether intentional or not.

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    3. The Last Days Ministries *Laura*
      Interesting future subject: King James Bible 1611 is Masonic!!
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2015/07/king-james-bible-1611-is-masonic.html
      I'm Dutch and I prefer the Geneva Bible 1599: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/search/label/BIBLE

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    4. Kathy Henderson
      A year ago you said this to Renee
      :
      Kathy Henderson
      1 year ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cvcAiB2lEY&lc=UggPiMZz_JaWL3gCoAEC
      AAA MEN Sister!~!!
      -----------------------------------
      So what are you trying to tell me?
      That you're better than me or more saved and loved by JESUS than me because you want sound doctrine?
      i told you where to find sound doctrine: in the Word of God and in the teachings of Paul on behalf of JESUS.
      Something else: is the earth flat or a ball and do you know 'the book of Enoch' is occult garbage?
      Renee rejects the flat earth truth and she believes the 'book of Enoch' should be taken seriously.

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      Kathy Henderson
      Kathy Henderson
      3 hours ago
      Hans S. I know who you are Hans you comment and like Renees teachings ( I've seen you many times), you listen to her but I'm just not going to because I want sound doctrine.
      She is being exposed....

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    5. Kathy Henderson
      I totally reject Andrew Wommack's nonsense
      , so agree with you that Renee should warn everybody (and not just babes in Christ) against the lies of this man, and if she doesn't and if she integrates his dangerous herecies into her videos and comments she should be rebuked, that's why I'm here.

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      Kathy Henderson
      Kathy Henderson
      3 hours ago
      Hans S. Would you or would you not say that Renee is leading babes in Christ astray with listening to that heretic Andrew Wommack?

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    1. I'm eternally saved (thank you Lord JESUS!) from BURNING FOREVER in the lake of fire, so hell, aka the lake of fire, aka the second death is a VERY IMPORTANT TRUTH which should be mentioned when we tell unsaved sinners the gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

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    1. Renee, now I understand why you never talk about the pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture (pre-tribulation-rapture), because you DON'T believe that Enoch and Elijah were taken to WHERE GOD IS, and you DON'T have proof that Elijah was still on earth in 2 Chronicles 21:12, and just read all these commentaries on 2 Chronicles 21:12 https://www.studylight.org/commentary/2-chronicles/21-12.html

      Genesis 5:18-24 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and begat Enoch.

      19 Then Jared lived, after he begat Enoch, eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.

      20 So all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.

      21 Also Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah.

      22 And Enoch walked with God, after he begat Methuselah, three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.

      23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years.

      24 And Enoch walked with God, and he was no more seen: for God took him away.

      2 Kings 2:1-12 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1 And when the Lord would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.

      2 Then Elijah said to Elisha, Tarry here, I pray thee: for the Lord hath sent me to Bethel. But Elisha said, As the Lord liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. So they came down to Bethel.

      3 And the children of the Prophets that were at Bethel, came out to Elisha, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Lord will take thy master from thine head this day? And he said, Yea, I know it: hold ye your peace.

      4 Again Elijah said unto him, Elisha, tarry here, I pray thee: for the Lord hath sent me to Jericho. But he said, As the Lord liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. So they came to Jericho.

      5 And the children of the Prophets that were at Jericho, came to Elisha, and said unto him, Knowest thou, that the Lord will take thy master from thine head this day? And he said, Yea, I know it: hold ye your peace.

      6 Moreover Elijah said unto him, Tarry, I pray thee, here: for the Lord hath sent me to Jordan. But he said, As the Lord liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. So they went both together.

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    2. 7 And fifty men of the sons of the Prophets went and stood on the other side a far off, and they two stood by Jordan.

      8 Then Elijah took his cloak, and wrapped it together, and smote the waters, and they were divided hither and thither, and they twain went over on the dry land.

      9 Now when they were passed over, Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee before I be taken from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let thy Spirit be double upon me.

      10 And he said, Thou hast asked an hard thing: yet if thou see me when I am taken from thee, thou shalt have it so: and if not, it shall not be.

      11 And as they went walking and talking, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and did separate them twain. So Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

      12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof: and he saw him no more: and he took his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

      2 Chronicles 21:12 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      12 And there came a writing to him from [a]Elijah the Prophet, saying, Thus saith the Lord God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah,

      [a] 2 Chronicles 21:12 Some think that this was Elisha, so called because he had the Spirit in abundance, as had Elijah.

      Again: read this commentaries: https://www.studylight.org/commentary/2-chronicles/21-12.html

      You talked about 'space' and 'universe' because you still believe in the JESUIT-concocted globe earth lie, because there is no space and there is no universe and the earth is as flat as a pancake.

      And you rely on the MASONIC KJV http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2015/07/king-james-bible-1611-is-masonic.html , made on behalf of the FREEMASON King James and Freemasons serve the Vatican and the Pope: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w2JV4WuuD60/WALY5TIR0aI/AAAAAAAAmwQ/RZz0kyWMv5cQtSDzMRXqUbc5Pdq114gRQCLcB/s1600/Satanic%2Bpower%2Btree-update%2BOctober%2B2016.png

      The KJV was produced because King James, and especially the Vatican, HATED the Geneva Bible 1560 and later versions!

      You're also still UNDER THE SPELL of the OCCULT 'book of Enoch': http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-book-of-enoch-is-satanic-garbage.html

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    3. Isaiah 14:12 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

      12
      “How did you come to fall from the heavens,
      morning star, son of the dawn?
      How did you come to be cut to the ground,
      conqueror of nations?

      Isaiah 14:12 World English Bible (WEB)

      12 How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, who laid the nations low!

      Isaiah 14:12 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O [a]Lucifer, son of the morning? and cut down to the ground, which didst cast lots upon the nations?
      Footnotes:

      [a] Isaiah 14:12 Thou that thoughtest thyself most glorious, and as it were placed in the heaven: for the morning star that goeth before the sun, is called Lucifer, to whom Nebuchadnezzar is compared.

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    4. Stacey 6171
      JESUS cannot lie and He ASCENDED up to heaven, which went relatively SLOWLY
      but Enoch and Elijah were SUDDENLY taken AWAY to where God is.
      Not with their earthly bodies, of course because

      1 Corinthians 15:50-58 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      50 This say I, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

      And now about the pre-Jacob's Trouble-RAPTURE:

      51 Behold, I show you a secret thing, We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

      52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet: for the trumpet shall blow, and the dead shall be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

      53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption: and this mortal must put on immortality.

      54 So when this corruptible hath put on incorruption, and this mortal hath put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying, that is written, Death is swallowed up into victory.

      55 O death where is thy sting? O grave where is thy victory?

      56 The sting of death is sin: and the strength of sin is the Law.

      57 But thanks be unto God, which hath given us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

      58 Therefore my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast, unmovable, abundant always in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

      Discerning The Trumpets (Revelation 1:8-10) https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2013/07/discerning-trumpets-revelation-18-10.html

      OUR BLESSED HOPE, the RAPTURE https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/HwZuYVFm9Ag

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      Stacey 6171
      Stacey 6171
      2 hours ago
      100% AGREE!
      There are 3 heavens...He was simply transported to another location in the air!
      AIR heaven, moon and stars heaven, WHERE GOD"S SITS ON HIS THRONE 3rd heaven!!!
      The bible dose not contradict itself!
      Peace.
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      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 hour ago
      Stacey 6171
      Read all these commentaries on 2 Chronicles 21:12 https://www.studylight.org/commentary/2-chronicles/21-12.html
      Stacey 6171
      Stacey 6171
      13 minutes ago
      I will!
      However, no matter what IF Elijah DID go to heaven where God sits on his throne, than Jesus lied and the bible contradicts itself... John 3:13
      And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

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    5. Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      We will ALL agree with each other when we're DEAD
      http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/07/we-will-all-agree-with-each-other-when.html
      Did your father and mother gave you the name 'Belief is not a work Romans 4:5'?

      A sickly jealous morning star http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2013/09/a-sickly-jealous-morning-star.html

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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      2 hours ago
      Renee... one teaching that I have disputed is that Lucifer was and is Satan... but scripture says Lucifer was the prince of Babylon. Lucifer was actually a man not Satan.
      UFCNUTTA
      UFCNUTTA
      2 hours ago
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5 Where in scripture does it say that? .....now I'm confused lol
      Hans S
      Hans S
      2 hours ago
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      Lucifer is simply Latin for one of Satan's former names 'light bearer' and Satan (from Hebrew) simply means 'adversary'.
      Lucifer is Satan.
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      Nicholas James
      Nicholas James
      2 hours ago
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5 lucifer is Satan or the devil. Lucifer has lots of names throughout the scriptures. Lucifer is the one who fell from heaven and it's the devil or Satan who fell. It's Satan who wants to be God.

      Isaiah 14:“12. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
      13. For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
      14. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.”
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      Nicholas James... why is he called King of Babylon... Babylon wasn't metaphoric like it is in Revelation. When Isaiah wrote this, Babylon was a real city. "That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!" He is also called a MAN in vs 16... Satan isn't and never will be a MAN "Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;"
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      UFCNUTTA ... refer to my comment above
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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5 thats a metaphor. Like the king of tyre
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      Renee Roland... it says he's a MAN (vs 16) Satan isn't a man.... He's never been a Man. If that were so, Jesus died for his sins too.
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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5 I would guess because it's Babylon where Satan first setup his kingdom or religions whatever you want to call it. But Babylon is a literal place and so is mystery Babylon in revelation. It's just nobody knows exactly where it is, people have ideas but nobody knows the truth because it's a mystery and hasn't been revealed yet. Satan is also called the prince of air, the god of this world etc. just because he's called something doesn't mean it's not Satan. Satan is called a man because lucifer is Satan. If lucifer isn't Satan then please tell me who else fell from heaven that's trying to be God? Lucifer means "light bearer" it's Satan who transforms himself as an angel of light. Satan also can manifest himself in human form just like God himself did. Have you heard of the antichrist? That's going to be Satan himself as a man sitting in the temple claiming to be God himself and will deceive the world.
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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5 that's false because Satan can manifest himself in human form just like the other fallen angels can, how do think they had sex with humans? By manifesting themselves which Satan is going to do this during the tribulation period as well.
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      Popular Interpretation

      It is assumed that Lucifer was once a powerful angel who sinned at Adam’s time and was therefore cast down to earth, where he is making trouble for God’s people.
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      1. The words “devil” , “satan” and “angel” never occur in this chapter. This is the only place in Scripture where the word “Lucifer” occurs.

      2. There is no evidence that Isaiah 14 is describing anything that happened in the garden of Eden; if it is, then why are we left 3,000 years from the time of Genesis before being told what really happened there?

      3. Lucifer is described as being covered in worms (v. 11) and mocked by men (v. 16) because he no longer has any power after his casting out of heaven (vs. 5-8); so there is no justification for thinking that Lucifer is now on earth leading believers astray.

      4. Why is Lucifer punished for saying, “I will ascend into heaven” (v. 13), if he was already there?

      5. Lucifer is to rot in the grave: “Thy pomp is brought down to the grave...and the worms cover thee” (v. 11). Seeing angels cannot die (Lk. 20:35-36), Lucifer therefore cannot be an angel; the language is more suited to a man.

      6. Verses 13 and 14 have connections with 2 Thessalonians 2: 3-4, which is about the “man of sin” - thus Lucifer points forward to another man, perhaps another king of latter day Babylon- but not to an angel.

      7. It should be noted that the idea of 'morning star' is translated 'Lucifer' in the Vulgate [Latin] translation of the Bible made by Jerome. Significantly, he uses 'Lucifer' as a description of Christ, as the 'morning star' mentioned in Revelation. Indeed, some early Christians took the name 'Lucifer' as a 'Christian name' in order to identify themselves with Jesus (1). It wasn't until Origen that the term 'Lucifer' took on any connotation of 'Satan' or a force of evil; and even then it was only popularized much later in Milton's Paradise Lost . 'Lucifer' in its strict meaning of 'bearer of the light' actually was applied in a positive sense to Christian communities, e.g. the followers of Lucifer of Cagliari were called 'Luciferians'. As an aside, it's worth pointing out that they were one of the groups who insisted that the devil was not a personal being and held to the original Biblical picture of sin and the devil (2).
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    8. 1. The N.I.V. and other modern versions have set out the text of Isaiah chapters 13-23 as a series of “burdens” on various nations, e.g. Babylon, Tyre, Egypt. Isaiah 14: 4, sets the context of the verses we are considering: “Thou shalt take up this proverb (parable) against the king of Babylon...”. The prophecy is therefore about the human king of Babylon, who is described as “Lucifer”. On his fall: “they that see thee shall...consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble...?” (v. 16). Thus Lucifer is clearly defined as a man.

      2. Because Lucifer was a human king , “All kings of the nations...shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?” (vs. 9-10). Lucifer was therefore a king like any other king.

      3. Verse 20 says that Lucifer’s seed will be destroyed. Verse 22 says that Babylon’s seed will be destroyed, thus equating them.

      4. Remember that this is a “proverb (parable) against the king of Babylon” (v. 4). “Lucifer” means “the morning star”, which is the brightest of the stars. In the parable, this star proudly decides to “ascend (higher) into heaven...exalt my throne above the (other) stars of God” (v. 13). Because of this, the star is cast down to the earth. The star represents the king of Babylon. Daniel chapter 4 explains how Nebuchadnezzar, the king of Babylon, proudly surveyed the great kingdom he had built up, thinking that he had conquered other nations in his own strength, rather than recognizing that God had given him success. “Thy greatness (pride) is grown, and reacheth unto heaven” (v.22). Because of this “he was driven from men, and did eat grass as oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, till his hairs were grown like eagles’ feathers, and his nails like birds’ claws” (v. 33). This sudden humbling of one of the world’s most powerful men to a deranged lunatic was such a dramatic event as to call for the parable about the falling of the morning star from heaven to earth. Stars are symbolic of
      powerful people, e.g. Genesis 37: 9; Isaiah 13:10 (concerning the leaders of Babylon); Ezekiel 32: 7 (concerning the leaders of Egypt); Daniel 8:10, cp. v. 24. Ascending to heaven and falling from heaven are Biblical idioms often used for increasing in pride and being humbled respectively - see Job 20: 6; Jeremiah 51:53 ( about Babylon); Lamentations 2 :1; Matthew 11:23 (about Capernaum): “Thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell” (the grave). Adam Clarke's commentary rightly notes: "The truth is, the text

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    9. speaks nothing at all concerning Satan nor his fall... but of the pride, arrogance and fall of Nebuchadnezzar".

      5. Verse 17 accuses Lucifer of making the “world as a wilderness, (destroying) the cities thereof; that let not loose his prisoners to their home...(that did) fill the face of the world with cities...the exactress of gold” (vs 17 & 21 R.V.; v. 4 A.V. margin). These are all descriptions of Babylonian military policy - razing whole areas to the ground (as they did to Jerusalem), transporting captives to other areas and not letting them return to their homeland (as they did to the Jews), building new cities and taking tribute of gold from nations they oppressed. Thus there is emphasis on the fact that Lucifer was not even going to get the burial these other kings had (vs. 18-19), implying that he was only a human king like them, seeing his body needed burying. Is. 14:8 records the relief that now the "Lucifer" figure would no longer cut down cedars in Lebanon and hew mountains. This is exactly the language used by Nebuchadnezzar: "What no former king had done, I achieved: I cut through steep mountains, I split rocks, I opened passages and constructed a straight road for the transport of Cedars... to Marduk, my king, mighty cedars... the abundant yield of the Lebanon" (3). Clearly the figure spoken of in Is. 14 was Nebuchadnezzar.

      6. Verse 12 says that Lucifer was to be “cut down to the ground” - implying he was a tree. This provides a further link with Daniel 4: 8-16, where Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon are likened to a tree being cut down.

      7. Babylon and Assyria are often interchangeable phrases in the prophets, thus, having spoken of the demise of the king of Babylon, v. 25 says, “I will break the Assyrian...”. The prophecies about Babylon in Isaiah 47, are repeated concerning Assyria in Nahum 3: 4, 5, & 18, and Zephaniah 2 :13 & 15; and 2 Chronicles 33:11, says that the king of Assyria took Manasseh captive to Babylon - showing the interchangeability of the terms. Amos 5:27 says that Israel were to go into captivity

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    10. “beyond Damascus”, i.e. in Assyria, but Stephen quotes this as “beyond Babylon” (Acts 7:43). Ezra 6:1 describes Darius the king of Babylon making a decree concerning the rebuilding of the temple. The Jews praised God for turning “the heart of the king of Assyria” (Ezra 6: 22), again showing that they are interchangeable terms. The prophecy of Isaiah 14, along with many others in Isaiah, fits in well to the context of the Assyrian invasion by Sennacherib in Hezekiah’s time, hence v. 25 describes the breaking of the Assyrian. Verse 13 is easier to understand if it is talking about the blasphemous Assyrians besieging Jerusalem, wanting to enter Jerusalem and capture the temple for their gods. Earlier the Assyrian king, Tilgath-Pilneser, had probably wanted to do the same (2 Chron. 28: 20-21). Isaiah 14:13: “For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven...(symbolic of the temple and ark - 1 Kings 8: 30; 2 Chron. 30: 27; Ps. 20: 2 & 6; 11: 4; Heb. 7:26) I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation (mount Zion where the temple was) in the sides of the north” (Jerusalem - Ps. 48:1-2).
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      Nicholas James... I don't believe the fallacy that angels had sex with men. I don't buy the Nephilim lie.
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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5 there is no private interpretation so whatever is most popular interpretation doesn't mean anything for me, I just off of God words. It only needs to appear once. If you think it's a lie then throw out your bible.
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      Hans S
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      Isaiah 14:12 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

      12
      “How did you come to fall from the heavens,
      morning star, son of the dawn?
      How did you come to be cut to the ground,
      conqueror of nations?

      Isaiah 14:12 World English Bible (WEB)

      12 How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, who laid the nations low!

      Isaiah 14:12 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O [a]Lucifer, son of the morning? and cut down to the ground, which didst cast lots upon the nations?
      Footnotes:

      [a] Isaiah 14:12 Thou that thoughtest thyself most glorious, and as it were placed in the heaven: for the morning star that goeth before the sun, is called Lucifer, to whom Nebuchadnezzar is compared.
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      Hans S ... nothing you posted proves Lucifer = Satan / The Devil.
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      Nicholas James... I have no idea what you just said. I'm not going to throw out my bible because you think you are right about one word that only appears one time in the entire bible. There is nothing in scripture that proves Lucifer = Satan / The Devil. I don't go outside what is written and speculate that Isaiah was talking about the Devil and not Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon.

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    11. Renee,
      Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:13-19 is information about Satan before and after his fall.

      Rome is MYSTERY BABYLON.
      Recommended videos in this respect: The Jesuits of the New World Order & Self Destruction - Satan's Architects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhqEE3SjFuQ
      Washington D.C. is MYSTERY BABYLON too: Who Founded and Owns Wash. D.C., USA? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbHl-6qFIzI
      Washington D.C.'s original name was Rome, Maryland https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican37.htm

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      Hans S... so " When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" automatically means these are angels? That's speculative to me. Again, I don't speculate on God's word. If God wanted us to emphatically know that Lucifer was indeed Satan/ The Devil, I think He would have elaborated. I'm very Leary of traditions of men. Especially when there is now a TV show called Lucifer with it's title based on that tradition.
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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5 you're probably right there's probably someone else who fell from heaven and is trying to be God.
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      Nicholas James... there is nothing that implies the THIRD heaven in Isaiah. Why would Satan have to "ascend" into the THIRD heaven if he was already there?
      Hans S
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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      Job 38:7 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      7 When the stars of the morning praised me together, and all the children of God rejoiced:

      This is referring to angels and even 'morning star' who would later become Satan the devil, was still a GOOD angel during that time, because this was during the creation.
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      49 minutes ago
      Babylon was often code for "Rome" too bc it was an executionable offense to speak agasint Rome..its why Revelation uses Babylon
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      48 minutes ago
      I believe Satan possesses that man...in the end times. There are many MEN that are not God's in scripture
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      Hans S ... I'm not saying you are absolutely wrong. I'm just saying that "stars of the morning" and "sons of God" don't definitively mean Job is referring to angels or even the third heaven. The more I think about it, Lucifer could be referring Satan and Nebuchadnezzar because it's interesting that the L is capitalized in Lucifer and "morning star" is a description not a proper name. But, I can't glean from a capital L that Lucifer is in fact Satan/ The Devil nor can I glean from the passages that you have given me that Lucifer is in fact Satan/ The Devil. Lucifer simply means "morning star" in Hebrew. It doesn't mean Satan / The Devil. I'm just not seeing the definitive ties just speculation as to what you think "stars of the morning" and "sons of God" actually means in Job. If you have some divine revelation that God has shown you that those scriptures definitively mean Lucifer is Satan / The Devil, then good for you. God hasn't given me that revelation.
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      Renee Roland... the disciples specifically called Jerusalem Babylon.
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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      Read this:
      Ezekiel 28:13-19 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God: every precious stone was in thy garment, the ruby, the topaz, and the diamond, the chrysolite, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, emerald, and the carbuncle and gold: the workmanship of thy timbrels, and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

      14 Thou art the anointed Cherub, that covereth, and I have set thee in honor: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God: thou hast walked in the midst of the stones of fire.

      15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

      16 By the multitude of thy merchandise, they have filled the midst of thee with cruelty, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering Cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

      17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, and thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground. I will lay thee before kings that they may behold thee.

      18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctification by the multitude of thine iniquities, and by the iniquity of thy merchandise: therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, which shall devour thee: and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth, in the sight of all them that behold thee.

      19 All they that know thee among the people, shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be anymore.

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  16. THE TERM - MERRY CHRISTMAS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0DPriOlFfk
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    2:42 'that Jesus Christ is LORD'....a TYPICAL LORDSHIP salvation phrase, but when children sing it it's 'okay'.
    The POPE of ROME is VERY happy with that and with believers in JESUS who celebrate 'Christ-MASS'.
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    Christmas E-Card Greeting https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=198&v=oyVWKqraMr4

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    1. Kathy Henderson Christmas E-Card Greeting https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=198&v=oyVWKqraMr4

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      Merry Christmas Renee and to all the brethren!!
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      That's the gospel....Amen!

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  17. Renee, you know little about the subject and you like to BELIEVE what 'official science' says.
    The sun is relatively small and the earth is HUGE in comparison so it doesn't make sense what you say.
    The strongest argument I know against the globe earth madness is the fact that water always finds its LEVEL because the earth is flat and LEVEL. Water does not curve...EVER...PERIOD. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fjzyG8xQzbk/WyoY0_ScRPI/AAAAAAAArsA/fBaiP-jBWc4cXbobVNDUQkUo8kafdK-TgCJoC/w530-h536-n/gplus-533081935.jpg
    One of my best friends (who is a highly educated woman) became a flat earther thanks to this simple reality, and she's a former atheist like me.
    No flat earther will ever go back to the globe earth nonsense.
    According to 'official science' the horizon drops about 8 inches per mile, due to the 'curvature'.
    Anyone with a good pair of eyes can SEE that this isn't true.
    Curve of the earth? for every mile how much does the earth drop as a result of the curve? https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080319041236AAz7drc
    And here's a picture from 1946 made from a (Nazi) V-2 rocket from 'space) (high in the sky) clearly showing that the earth is flat: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/70ATPYHmY6HicSBvcdOgFahROazVGBd7IB0K6E4F3LPIPjyWrATokGJF-zgh39ccHEQqzQ5dzqE6WIEuublmxqotVW9xMmIl-3mrrComUCJIlZfCBY2MvRvR=s530-p
    How do you imagine that very eye shall see JESUS when He returns on a ball shaped earth, considering the fact that at that moment almost everything on earth will be destroyed, so also those so called 'satellites' (that don't exist)?
    I won't be a problem on a flat earth!

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    1:58 There is no 'universe', because the earth is FLAT and ROUND with a FIRMAMENT and the firmament is NOT the universe.
    Atheists are SATANISTS and ONLY God-the Lord JESUS can change their minds, but this goes for all people, because we all deserve to be cast into hell-the eternal lake of fire and nobody deserves God's GRACE.
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    Sorru Hans i dont buy flat earth. If its flat it denies God's physicsl laws and we would see the sun in some form at all times..there wouldnt b weeks of darkness or light at a time

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    1. Yeah, 'God bless' is what most church people say, and I'm not a church person and I will never become one.
      If I bless someone I always do that in the name of JESUS , because JESUS is God and only the word 'God' doesn't say much to me.
      Do you think it's a coincidence that in these END TIMES so MANY people, and a lot of them believers in JESUS, have become flat earthers, or do you think they have all become INSANE?
      Some people say that the DEVIL is behind it, but couldn't it be true that God=JESUS REVEALED this truth?
      I became a flat earther on October 1, 2016, so that's almost 2 years ago, but before that I already believed in a stationary earth and that the 'solar system' doesn't exist and that there were never men on the moon and that 'satellites' are fake and so much more.
      This was BEFORE I became a fat earther!
      I still believed in the earth as a globe and I thought all flat earthers had become insane.
      Until I met two nice sisters on Google+ and they had become flat earthers.
      How was it possible that such nice and kind and friendly sisters believed in such 'nonsense'?
      So this was my incentive to finally get an answer to this, and I started to do my own research.
      You say you studied both sides of the debate.
      You won't get answers if you study both sides of the debate: you'll have to be willing to forget about what 'authorities' say and draw your OWN conclusions.
      That's how most if not all people became flat earthers, because it's the truth and JESUS is the truth and no lie.
      I already knew that the JESUITS are behind ALL evil in this world on behalf of Lucifer the devil, and then I found this video: Flat Earth: Jesuits & the Global Conspiracy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WHIr-IFqAo
      The globe earth concept is a CATHOLIC lie and what is the Catholic church and the Vatican?
      The disguised LUCIFERIAN Roman Empire with the Pope as the disguised ROMAN EMPEROR.
      He's the BOSS of this wold and NOT Trump or Putin or anyone else, and He's the Antichrist by default.
      I already knew that years ago.
      So BELIEVE what you want, but I believe in a JESUS Christ who likes to keep things SIMPLE so that even small children can understand.
      When I was a small child I didn't believe in the earth as a ball, but when I went to elementary school the indoctrination started and by the time I had become an adolescent I had become an ATHEIST.
      The ball earth in combination with the 'big bang' and 'evolution' lies had DESTROYED my child like belief!
      Now I don't assert that only the earth as a globe destroyed my faith in God, but I believed in 'space exploration' and I was a fan of series like (the old) Star Trek, of which I know it was written and produced by a SATANIST!
      STAR TREK, GENE RODDENBERRY and the COUNCIL OF NINE by Brian Moonan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YumrF9dv5vE
      I bless you in JESUS' name and I'm glad you believe you're not going to burn in hell, thanks to JESUS!

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      +Hans S i know a lot about it n still reject it. Ive studied both sides of debate n i just dont buy it. Sorry but i dont care to discuss it further. Over 2 years of it n i just really dont care what shape ppl think the earth is..bizarre bc ppl deny the physical laws God put in place but that's thier choice. I care if ppl r saved n thats the only fight for which i have the strength to battle. If ppl want to believe the earth is a pyramid i just dont care but i do care if they r lost. God bless

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    2. JESUS and Paul don't want us to tell people we're 'Christians' but that there's only one way to be saved and that's to believe that JESUS died and shed His atoning blood for our sins and that He rose from the dead on the first day, according to the scriptures.
      Don't think you're better (or worse) than hypocrites, because all people are hypocrites and tend to justify themselves.
      Just believe and share the gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
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      Thanks for sharing, I already believed the gospel my friend! I know I'm no better than anyone haha.
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      sean christian
      Shalom!
      Hebrews 13
      15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of PRAISE to God continually, that is, the fruit of our LIPS giving thanks to his name.
      16 But to do good and to COMMUNICATE forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

      2 Timothy 1
      7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

      8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;

      9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

      10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

      People can not be led to Jesus without the seeds we plant in their minds by the fruit of our lips!
      It is the very least we can do for him, after what he did for us!
      Be NOT ashamed!

      Peace.
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      sean christian
      Keep it that way and I'll do the same! ;)

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      Yeah, I don't even tell people I'm a christian, cause most 'christians' are judgemental and hypocritical people that look down their noses at everyone. I don't want to be like that.

      If they ask though, yeah I'll share with them. I don't go around broadcasting it though.

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      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvdWv50gT5FJ1Oq_jpZnpyw
      The devil could persuade Eve to disobey God by being 'kind and and understanding'......

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      13 hours ago (edited)
      Love and kindness is the way, you are certainly right. The essence of this video is so beautiful, because you have such beautiful heart attitudes. This is essential to helping atheists come to saving faith. Being aggressive will save no one and will defame God if anything. Aggression with opponents is rooted in pride - it makes a person feel good to win or put someone down. I believe it is not even about having the best, most logical argument - it is all about attitude. Have a humble, loving attitude which listens, and they will be more likely to listen to you. Besides, I've heard the saying, 'preach the Gospel always, only with words when necessary.' I think Renee has been reading my mind, everything in this video is exactly my approach and thinking on atheists, or any opponents. We are here to win people over (to Christ through love and respect), not win OVER people (by being domineering).
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      I love that preach the gospel without words..awsome

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    4. Renee Roland
      JESUS will show you what the earth looks like
      and that it's not a spinning ball, revolving around the sun, which was promoted by His enemies, the Jesuits:
      In the 16th century, anti-God forces waged an all out war on Biblical truth. Copernicus proclaimed that the earth was not stationary--in direct contradiction to the holy scriptures. With no proof, Copernicus dethroned the earth as the jewel of all creation and enthroned the sun in its place. Copernicus' "scientific theory" was (and is) a heresy--and church men today believe it from the pulpit to the pew. Satan successfully used false science as the vehicle for destroying the credibility and authority of the Bible in men's minds. Ask just about anyone you meet if the sun goes around the earth and they will tell you, "It just appears to." His eyes tell him, "The sun rises and sets," but his mind has capitulated to the suggestions of Satan. http://flatearthandthebible.blogspot.com/2015/10/selected-profiles-in-geocentric.html

      So tell JESUS that you don't think it's that big a deal and tell Him also that you don't think it's that big a deal when believers in JESUS use occult knowledge (the 'book of Enoch') when they think they know what happened in Genesis 6, and tell Him you don't think it's that big a deal when you celebrate the Roman Catholic 'Christ-mass', while during the first 2 centuries of your country most Americans knew it was totally unbiblical, and tell JESUS that you don't think it's that big a deal whether or not fallen angels and condemned humans will be annihilated in the lake of fire.
      Suppose it's true that fallen angels and condemned people will cease to exist after they have been cast into the lake of fire, then the Bible is a LIE:
      Revelation 20:7-15 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

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    5. 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

      8 And shall go out to deceive the people, which are in the four quarters of the earth: even Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the Sea.

      9 And they went up into the plain of the earth, and they compassed the tents of the Saints about, and the beloved city: but ire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

      10 And the devil that deceived them, was cast into a lake of fire and brimstone, where that beast and that false prophet are, and shall be tormented even day and night for evermore.

      11 And I saw a great white throne, and one that sat on it, from whose face fled away both the earth and heaven, and their place was no more found.

      12 And I saw the dead, both great and small stand before God: and the books were opened, and another book was opened, which is the book of life, and the dead were judged of those things, which were written in the books, according to their works.

      13 And the sea gave up her dead, which were in her, and death and hell delivered up the dead, which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

      14 And death, and hell* were cast into the lake of fire: this is the second death.

      15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the lake of fire.

      *hell in this context is the realm of the dead or Hades.

      Of course the Bible is not a lie and JESUS knows what He's talking about, and the writer of this article too, because it's a Gospel of Grace believer: What Does Jesus Say about Hell Being Eternal and Just? https://godsbreath.net/2011/12/23/how-could-hell-be-just/

      And we really don't need to be baptized and I told you that I don't regret the fact that I was baptized, because now I know what it is and that it doesn't add anything to my undeserved gift of salvation, which is through FAITH alone in what JESUS has done for us, and on that we still agree.

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      Renee Roland
      5 hours ago
      +Hans S i dont think its that big a deal. I focus on gospel. Idc what shape u think the earth is..i care if u r saved
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      Heptadic Addict
      Heptadic Addict
      1 hour ago
      don't kid yourself Hans your as religious as they come and worse than "church " people. you jumped on some mans bandwagon with this flat earth. and there are plenty of christian scientist and physicist that know you can mathematically measure the curvature of the earth. let alone the live 24 hours footage from space. I know the you flat earthers kling to and your reading it with a carnal mind. but you want people to believe you over their lying eyes as if your the one with all the insight. I sense pride at work. But Renee is right. the shape of the earth is neither here nor there but that people believe in Christ and what he's done for the world that shall pass away.
      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 second ago
      Heptadic Addict
      This channel doesn't have any content https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA82SoU81h-rvKx_dObB8LA
      Bub bye, troll!

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    6. Leanna S.
      The word 'Satan' derives from Hebrew and it simply means 'adversary'.

      Atheist are AGAINST the existence of God, so they're adversaries of the FACT that God exists, revealed to us through JESUS Christ.
      Atheists are on Satan's side, and of course they themselves disagree because they also deny the existence of the devil.
      Yes, 'some people become atheists because of religious bondage hypocrisy in the church', but that's exactly what Satan wants, because he's behind all religions, and JESUS didn't start a religion but a movement of LOVE through the Holy Spirit, who is Himself in spiritual capacity.
      What did I say in my opening remark on this thread?
      Atheists are SATANISTS and ONLY God-the Lord JESUS can change their minds, but this goes for all people, because we all deserve to be cast into hell-the eternal lake of fire and nobody deserves God's GRACE.
      So I agree with Renee that only through God's love atheists can become ex-atheists and believers in JESUS.
      I know because it happened to me.

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      Leanna S.
      Leanna S.
      8 hours ago
      Atheist aren't Satanists you do realize some people become atheists because of religious bondage hypocrisy in the church etc? Just because someone is atheist doesn't mean you're better because you believe in God. "No one deserves Heaven" that's the only true thing you've said

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  18. I'm ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED because JESUS LOVED me so much that He shed His sinless BLOOD for my sins and rose from the dead on the third day, according to the scriptures, and because I simply BELIEVE this, God-the Lord JESUS gave me His UNDESERVED GIFT of His ETERNAL GRACE and adopted me as His SON F O R E V E R and E V E R!

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    1. 7:19 'I don't understand people, I really don't', but God=JESUS DOES!
      He knows why people can't BELIEVE that their WORKS can't save them, because GRACE is an unmerited GIFT of God and FAITH in it, too.
      Does God want us to REPENT of our sins?
      YES! But AFTER and DURING He has saved us, and that's why he wants us to read and follow His instructions through His Apostle Paul in Romans through Philemon.
      God wants us to know the SCRIPTURES, so this means He wants us to read the Bible, and when we read and understand His WORD, the Bible, we learn from WHAT JESUS has saved us, or for those who aren't yet saved: from what He wants to save us.
      And that's NOT from state of non-existence after having been cast into the lake of fire, but from a state of full consciousness in the most horrific place imaginable, well it's in fact UNimaginable, because that bad is hell, the lake of fire, the second death, the eternal SEPARATION from God and His GOODNESS and LOVE.
      It's worse than our worst nightmares, and those who'll end up in hell are all alone, though they will be there among many, and they'll share the SAME fate of the Antichrist and the False Prophet, who will be the FIRST who'll be cast into that place, and they'll share the SAME fate as the devil and the fallen angels, because we're all meant to be LIKE the angels, with supernatural bodies, which CANNOT be destroyed, but the condemned CAN be detained....forever!
      And hell is HOT and PAINFUL and VERY BORING!
      And everybody will confess that JESUS Christ is THE LORD, so also the devil and the fallen angels!
      But they won't be HAPPY in hell!
      But those who are SAVED and SAFE will also confess that JESUS Christ is the LORD=BOSS, but they will be saying this out of GRATEFULNESS and HAPPINESS!
      So get saved by the Gospel of JESUS through Paul that SAVES FOREVER from burning forever in the lake of fire! https://plus.google.com/106087908907898703754/posts/CQXGSTN4RUn

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  19. Renee, yes this is your specialty and not the shape of the earth.
    Tell me how EVERYBODY can see JESUS AT ONCE when He returns on a stupid BALL, when almost EVERYTHING will be DESTROYED, so also those so called 'satellites' that don't exist.
    This will ONLY work on a ROUND and FLAT EARTH!

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    1. JESUS is not dead and the earth is flat so that every eye can see Him when He'll return. https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/HxCXTga9KWK

      The flat earth TRUTH isn't about ETERNAL salvation!
      The gospel of GRACE is: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/HxCXTga9KWK
      Deliberately rejecting the FLAT EARTH TRUTH, is deliberately LYING to JESUS, while being on the side of the JESUITS and SATAN!
      Flat Earth: Jesuits & the Global Conspiracy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WHIr-IFqAo

      JESUS is not dead and the earth is flat https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/RhefJbtJTQN

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      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      1 month ago
      U were great but he will talk w u in private from now on. Bro luke said the comments were beyond cruel and sick at me n jimjim n Luke removed many of them..but he had to leave chat so he could not get them all. Idk y this subject brings out the worst in ppl but i feared it would. We disagree yet we treat each other w respect but some of them were horrific acting. Im grateful u spent time w jimjim n he wants to talk agsin but just offline. God bless y'all hi Paula!
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      Talkin' Doctrine
      Talkin' Doctrine
      1 month ago
      I did not pay attention to the chat and that is odd character for the regulars on this channel. I am sorry to hear about that and apologize it happened, We can talk when and where ever, private or public, I am here to serve. I greatly enjoyed the conversation, sorry others acted like asses. God bless you and James, we will talk soon sister!
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      Angel Martin
      Angel Martin
      1 month ago
      I saw a lot of extremely nasty people on both sides, not regulars to this chat
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      Angel Martin
      Angel Martin
      1 month ago
      Renee I was born in the small town of the Florida Keys, grew up with the same kids and their parents all my life. My best friends parents were like family to me, especially her dad. I'm 32, knew them since age 4. I even lived with them briefly several years ago. I didn't find out they were bloodline Luciferian pedophiles involved with Mk ultra (literally, at Ft. Bragg), along with a great many others in my town I was close with. The cherry on top was when my best friend attempted to kidnap my daughter after her family found out I knew (and they didn't deny it, they boasted of it, and they were completely unrecognizable to me). I don't know how well you know Buzz.
      Also, I was equally attached to the vast space model, I get it, I said FE made God small, that was the attachment that made me resist.
      As for everyone being liars...the Bible specifically says to let God be true and every man a liar, not just 17,000 men, but every man.
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      SoCalExile
      SoCalExile
      1 month ago (edited)
      I'm sorry, but I was not impressed how Matthias treated the discussion with Jim. It seems the only thing he could do was make claims based on conjecture to distract Jim from the actual subject and the facts pertaining to it. I hope Jim doesn't think that Matthias' tactics were a valid way to discuss an issue. He never presented any actual facts, and while Jim is still learning how to present his, all I saw looked like a grown man trying to troll a kid, and it makes me not take anything this channel teaches as the result of any reasoned look into fact, or even an understanding as to where to get facts. I'm not even sure he even knows what logic and reason are after watching this.

      And the moderation in the chat was atrocious.
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    2. Talkin' Doctrine
      1 month ago
      SoCal. You seem to be alone in your conclusion of this discussion and I certainly did not try to derail James one bit at all. I was here to answer his questions, NOT try to convince him of the FE.
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      SoCalExile
      SoCalExile
      1 month ago
      You did derail Jim. And you did try to convince him of FE. You attempted to make positive arguments for FE, albeit rather poor arguments.
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      SoCalExile
      SoCalExile
      1 month ago
      Jim provided you with facts from nature, you made flat denials without support, while making counter-accusations about Satan and Freemasonry as if it has any relevance to FE.
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      Talkin' Doctrine
      Talkin' Doctrine
      1 month ago (edited)
      James and I had a great discussion and neither one of us (nor his mother) felt about it the way you do. I will gladly answer any questions he has at any time. But you have your right to your opinion and I take no offence to it. Have a good day my friend!
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      SoCalExile
      SoCalExile
      1 month ago
      He's a kid who doesn't understand what went on. As an adult, I will say that if you had pulled that stuff on my kid I would take issue with it. Your arguments, as well as the conduct of the atrocious moderators in the chat, do no service to Christ whatsoever. Take on someone who does have some personal knowledge on the subject and will not be easily distracted by specious conjecture instead of taking advantage of a kid.
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      Monorail Beyond the Veil*

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    3. Monorail Beyond the Veil*
      1 month ago
      Mathias couldn't have been any NICER to the boy. IMO, only a totally UN-reasonable person could view the same show I did and say such a thing. And although flat earth isn't a salvation issue, it certainly seems to bring out how unteachable SOME, not all, people are, and certainly indicates to ME whether or not they are even OPEN to the Gospel. So although it isn't a salvation issue, it certainly reveals stubborn pride of those who rebel and resist anything "new" that they don't understand.
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      SoCalExile
      SoCalExile
      1 month ago (edited)
      LOL, So you're saying " flat earth isn't a salvation issue" but, "certainly indicates to ME whether or not they are even OPEN to the Gospel". In other words, it's not a salvation issue but it is.

      " it certainly reveals stubborn pride of those who rebel and resist anything "new" that they don't understand" That's what exactly what the FE crowd is doing. I TEACH Satellite Communications. I have firsthand knowledge, but you challenge my salvation based on your own pride and lack of understanding on how you are able to even post that on the internet in 2018. You are not speaking from a position of actual knowledge of real-world applications, just what someone told you on the internet, which exists because of the field that I am in.

      You don't get to call ANYONE prideful. Fix the plank in your eye first.
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      Angel Martin
      Angel Martin
      1 month ago
      SoCalExile, I think you need to step away from this issue because you're majorly triggered beyond the point of rationality and just flinging accusations everywhere. What you saw on this show was nowhere near the extent of Matthias's ability to present the facts of FE, he was letting Jim Jim lead completely, even if that meant dropping one thing and moving on before he'd even made his point. I'm not sure you were listening, itbsounds like you were busy foaming at the mouth and rabidly lashing out in the chat. Take a step back and ask yourself why you'd get so angry about this subject?
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    4. SoCalExile
      1 month ago (edited)
      I am being rational. Did you bother to read what I was replying to? Because it was someone trying to project their sin onto me.

      If Matthias ability to present facts about FE is anything like those in the chat, I'm pretty secure. I did see him leading Jim around, distracting him with accusations of satanic conspiracies about Freemasonry, which has nothing to do with the shape of the earth. Sounds like you weren't paying much attention in the chat, because I was actually presenting facts and dealing with false accusations against me personally, including from you.

      If you can't use reason and facts, then call your opponent a big meanie and try to misrepresent them as angry seems to be your modus operandi.
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      Sheila Ramirez
      Sheila Ramirez
      1 month ago
      SoCalExile I agree with you. Also the Gospel doesnt change and God doesnt change. So anything New out there we must be very discerning with.
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      SoCalExile
      SoCalExile
      1 month ago
      Thanks, Sheila. I appreciate that.

      it basically comes down to two of these three things:
      1. The Bible is the true Word of God
      2. The Science behind our global communications and space-based infrastructure are true.
      3. The Flat Earth argument is true regarding science and the bible.

      Only two of those things can be true at the same time. I think we can all agree on #1. Number 2 is true because otherwise, they wouldn't work like they do (and I can give you all a class on that). That leaves #3 as the false statement.

      FE uses proof-texts to try to make the Bible contradict the science, and there is no such false dichotomy. What is wrong is the FE dogma regarding Biblical interpretation, which by their insistence on that dogma, drives people away from Jesus and makes His natural creation out to be an unclean thing. FE isn't about faith, it's about a lack of it.
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      Sheila Ramirez
      Sheila Ramirez
      1 month ago
      SoCalExile I work in electronic assembly. I test circuit boards my company builds. Often I get to see first hand products that are built for communications and companies like Raytheon. Lots of interestings things out there. I mostly test medical devices and industrial/farming devices. One thing is certain. Stupid new age gadgetry- fridge with flat screen etc is using up precious electronic components/precious metals and prices are going up making it harder to get the components for life saving devices. Think about that and the greed the world is falling into with technology. Before anyone buys a tv etc stop to think what if a child needs a life saving device but not enough are made to save them.
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    5. SoCalExile
      1 month ago
      Shiela, please check out an economist named Thomas Sowell.
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      Sheila Ramirez
      Sheila Ramirez
      1 month ago
      SoCalExile ok. I actually learned this fact from our building manager and it stunned me.
      Angel Martin
      Angel Martin
      1 month ago
      Sheila, the globe is new, not Hebrew cosmology lol.
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      Angel Martin
      Angel Martin
      1 month ago
      @SoCalExile...I'm gonna step away for you.
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      Sheila Ramirez
      Sheila Ramirez
      1 month ago
      Angel Martin I wasnt really referring to that. I mean any new takes on Gospel or new revelations when we are warned not to add to Scriptures.
      SoCalExile
      SoCalExile
      1 month ago (edited)
      Prove it Angel (your statement that the globe is new)

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    6. You believe in Annihilationalism and that's a LIE.
      And JESUS is not dead and HIS earth is flat.

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      sincitypreacher
      sincitypreacher
      1 month ago
      Congratulations, Mathias, Renee and James conducted themselves admirably. However, there were many in the chat room who are an embarrassment to Christianity...I am referring to their rude, insulting and condescending comments. They should be ashamed of themselves!

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    7. It was a video on top of what I already knew: Scientific EVIDENCE of a Flat Earth https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2016/10/scientific-evidence-of-flat-earth.html

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      Avi Shevin
      Avi Shevin
      3 weeks ago
      Using the Bible is no better than using Harry Potter. Literally the only part of the (Jewish) Bible which might be said to have been written by God are the 10 Utterances (usually mistranslated as the 10 Commandments). Literally everything else was written by man, and man is fallible.
      Scott Parker
      Scott Parker
      1 month ago
      EArth isn't flat.
      Hans S
      Hans S
      13 hours ago (edited)
      That's what I believed too before October 1, 2016.
      Scott Parker
      Scott Parker
      10 hours ago
      What YouTube video changed your mind?

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    8. You clearly believe in the wrong gospel: Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
      http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html

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      Bethany M.
      Bethany M.
      1 month ago
      I'm sorry but why does everyone want to rush end times we will not know when please let me enjoy my life�� This is enough to send someone to a Looney bin. You do realize we may be dead before the rapture
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      Talkin' Doctrine
      Talkin' Doctrine
      1 month ago
      Bethany M. I pray the End is far away but I am ready when ever God says its "Go Time"!
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      Bethany M.
      Bethany M.
      1 month ago
      Talkin' Doctrine thanks❤️
      Scott Parker
      Scott Parker
      1 month ago
      I promise you Bethany that not one single living person will ever witness any Rapture.
      Its a horeshit fable/
      Garbage.
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      CJ for Christ
      CJ for Christ
      1 month ago
      The rapture is false. The REASON no one knows the day or the hour is BECAUSE IT IT DIFFERENT FOR EACH PERSON! Yes, people WILL die waiting for the "rapture" because it is when EACH ONE OF US DIE and that is when we will be caught up and will EVER BE WITH THE LORD. Wake up people! Christ was the FIRSTFRUITS who rose from the dead and those who WAITED FOR HIM who were under the sacrificial system were the firstfruits also.... AND THE SAINTS ROSE WITH HIM. This is the FIRST RESURRECTION. Matt 27:50 - 53. READ IT PLEASE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NO RAPTURE THE WAY HOLLYWOOD HAS DECEIVED PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING. The false rapture was made to make people think they had more time!. There will be no sign but the sign of Jonah. Who does not understand this? God is NOT the author of confusion....MAN IS. And sadly, many believe man over Our Saviour.
      CJ for Christ
      CJ for Christ
      1 month ago (edited)
      Scott Amen brother! Another deception from the father of all lies! This doctrine brings out all those who are so ABSOLUTELY SELFISH AND VAIN AND ONLY WANT TO SAVE THEMSELVES! The DISCIPLES WERE TORTURED AND BEHEADED! The very people that gave their lives to brings us the scriptures were BURNED ALIVE AND TORTURED! But these ABSOLUTELY VAIN SELFISH people think they are worthy enough to be SPARED WHENEVEN CHRIST HIMSELF SUFFERED AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE SHOULD ALSO GIVE OUR LIVES THAT MORE CAN BE SAVED. It makes me so upset in my spirit when I even hear or see that SELFISH VAIN word! Hollywood promoted it.....therefore we should believe it? I BELIEVE THE WORDS OF GOD AND NO ONE ELSE! Thank you for saying the truth! Bless those who love the truth of HIS WORD.
      Hans S

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    9. Hans S
      17 hours ago
      CJ for Christ
      Satan and the Catholic church agree with you: there is no pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture!
      CJ for Christ
      CJ for Christ
      9 hours ago
      The time of Jacobs trouble was prophesied and THAT WAS THE FALL OF JERUSALEM .Christ WEPT when they were celebrating Him coming into Jerusalem on the colt laying palm branches down and celebrating because HE KNEW what was going to HAPPEN. THIS IS WHY. When He was going up to be killed He told them NOT TO WEEP FOR HIM BUT TO WEEP FOR THEMSELVES. He knew what was to happen! And He WARNED THEM! Do you read the Word AT ALL? It is all throughout the PROPHETS AND ISAIAH AND JEREMIAH! Christ came to FULFILL ALL THINGS. AND HE DID...IT IS FINISHED! You know its funny how people act like they are so wise, yet when it comes to understanding the ENTIRE PLAN OF SALVATION all they think about is SAVING THEMSELVES.... and when someone tries to help edify the Body of Christ , you would rather mock someone who believes what GOD SAID would be done and CHRIST FINISHED, and go on to believe hollywood over Gods word. What does the words: "IT IS FINISHED" mean to you anyway? Dont you know that is what Christ came for .. to DO THE WILL OF THE FATHER AND COMPLETE THE PROPHECY GOD PROMISED.? How do you think we were redeemed? We were BOUGHT with a PRICE. Oh, thats right...most people only want the FREE GIFT so they can be saved, who cares about that stuff right? What is it many like to quote? "ITS A FREE GIFT " and "WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW" They dont want to do the will of the Father but only seek to save themselves! As long as they can save themselves and be carried away they will be glad to leave others behind! Matt 16:25 For whosoever SEEKS TO SAVE HIS LIFE shall LOSE IT, but whosoever would lose his life FOR MY SAKE AND THE GOSPELS ....will SAVE IT. The rapture was created as a snare of the devil to make you fall into it. God HATES VANITY AND SELFISHNESS . WHY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH AND CALL ME A CHILD OF THE DEVIL?! Why would you blaspheme His children that SPEAK HIS TRUTH and try to edify in love? Why do you return it with HATE and call evil good and good evil. WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THE LIES.? People need to be careful calling the Holy Spirit in a BELIEVER the spirit of the devil. THATS IS BLASPHEMY! It is calling the Holy Spirit an unclean spirit! Only the Lord knows who is His and when you call one of HIS SATAN....I would not want to have to answer for that to the Lord! Why do people not heed HIs warnings? The Pharisees said that to Jesus and He WARNED THEM OF THE PENALTY OF THAT. Take heed please! Be blessed fellow believer.

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    10. 1:46:52 globe earthers always try to convince FORMER globe earthers that the earth is a globe, just like atheists who try to convince FORMER atheists that there is no God, and just like Lordship salvationists who try to convince FORMER Lordship salvationalists that ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED* is a LIE.

      *On the basis of the gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 second ago
      Mathias, I admire your PATIENCE with these two 'globalists'
      Hans S
      Hans S
      14 hours ago
      The Earth Plane (Videobook) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb-1PHmMO2s
      Eric Dubay is not a Bible believing, saved sinner, but he's right about the shape of the earth.

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    11. Renee Roland
      And you know what's so 'funny': your worst critics, like KR and WC, also don't believe in the flat earth!


      1:46:52 globe earthers always try to convince FORMER globe earthers that the earth is a globe, just like atheists who try to convince FORMER atheists that there is no God, and just like Lordship salvationists who try to convince FORMER Lordship salvationalists that ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED* is a LIE.

      *On the basis of the gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

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    12. Bible-believing Christian KJV1611
      The uploader of this video is a Bible-believing believer in the Lord JESUS Christ and this flat earther too
      :
      Pastor Preaching Flat Earth Truth from the Bible https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/06/pastor-preaching-flat-earth-truth-from.html

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    13. Olive and Hill
      Great comment, sister!

      We must have PATIENCE with our fellow saved globe earthers, because we've been globe earthers ourselves.

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      Olive and Hill
      Olive and Hill
      1 month ago
      I am a flat earther as well. I believe that will make Revelation 1:7 even easier to take place. But, hey it's going to happen wether we see it as easy or not. Praise God! This was a wonderful discussion.
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      Reginald Cooper
      Reginald Cooper
      1 month ago
      It doesn't matter what you believe concerning flat earth. Jesus said stop sinning (living habitually in sin) or you're going to Hell. You must repent and believe.
      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 second ago
      Reginald Cooper
      And what you're saying is NOT the gospel of GRACE, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE

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    1. Mary Renee (her real first name is Mary) teaches the right gospel of grace, but she needs to get rid of some real bad influences.
      So pray for her in JESUS' name.

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  22. 'Renee' (Mary) likes videos that mock the flat earth truth:

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    Flat Earthers Full Retard Mode Episode 14
    Tau Ceti Alpha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PiettY-kKc

    29K views1 year ago
    Here comes your monthly dose of mentally challenged clowns. This video is purely for criticism and satirical purposes. Copyright Disclaimer: Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copy...
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    21:43
    Flat Earthers Full Retard Mode Episode 22
    Tau Ceti Alpha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOl3ocFQGZw

    20K views5 months ago
    Here comes your shot of intellectually disabled clowns. This video is purely for criticism and satirical purposes. Copyright Disclaimer: Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright...
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    11:53
    Flat Earther has Moment of Madness Whilst out Shopping!
    SciManDan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScSe8FJUlPw

    73K views2 days ago
    Good morning one and all and welcome to the day you didn't know you could live without, Flat Earth Friday. Today

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2vX57S7VeTU7wkhwONr9rw

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  23. Renee asserts to be neutral concerning the flat earth/globe earth debate, but it's clear she's against the flat earth truth and she loves to watch videos that mock the beautiful flat earth system that JESUS created.
    The Lord JESUS didn't create a spinning ball that's revolving around the sun in a so called 'solar system', which is in the interest of the Roman Catholic SUN-WORSHIP death cult, the Jesuits and Satan, hence the Catholic church supports and promotes Heliocentrism.
    I know the testimony of someone who was lost and an agnostic and his life was a mess and he was close to committing suicide when he decided to investigate the flat earth issue, and he had nothing to lose. The result was that he discovered the flat earth truth and from there he started to think about the possibility of God's existence, which led him to read the Bible. To make a long story short: he got saved by JESUS!
    Yes, I know it doesn't always happen that way and many flat earthers are still unsaved and searching for the meaning of life, but in this particular case a person got saved via the flat earth truth.

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    John Patterson
    John Patterson
    1 year ago
    the truth is important. The globe is impossible. If you research flat earth truth you will see that satan is being taught as truth. It will take you 1 day to do your own research. The truth is important to me.
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    Renee Roland
    Renee Roland
    1 year ago
    Honestly hon, I just don't really care. I don't care if its really purple and shaped like a kitty kat head...its God's creation and whatever the shape (which I find weird that the moon and other planets are round (NO I do not think they are holograms) and ours is not. I believe God in His wisdom can make the proper gravitational and electromagnetic natural laws to do anything He wants..He can do miraculous things. I do not believe its flat..scripture describes space/sun/moon/stars and how they move for signs and for seasons and how its a sphere, and has a roundness/fullness thereof. I think He put firmament all around the earth to protect it and give it what it needs to make all things be in its place. Its not taking from His glory and creation to disagree with flat earth or thnking its round...I know Buzz Aldrin the astronaut and had dinner with him and his wife..he says he could see the round earth from space and I believe him as well. Its not about the Lord and it doesn't matter but I respect what you believe.
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    Percy Blakeney
    Percy Blakeney
    1 year ago
    If you don't care, you don't care about God's word. Nowhere in scripture does it say the earth is a sphere. Where is it? In fact it says otherwise.

    BTW, Buzz Aldrin is a freemason and a fraud. He has never even been to space. You are in Hollywood, you should know this.
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    John Patterson
    John Patterson
    1 year ago
    @Renee Roland I'd 
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    Pacen tho
    Pacen tho
    1 year ago (edited)
    Come on, Percy. Read what you just wrote. You are literally throwing a DEVOUT sister in the Lord under the bus because you would rather focus your energy on being right about the flat earth rather than being right in Christ. I cannot stand with you when you say "you don't care about God's word". This woman films 5 vids in a row when she's sick.

    For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.- Gal 5:14

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    1. When this becomes your ultimate goal percy, you will have flat earth vs ball earth AMNESIA. Everything pales in comparison when you're chasing such a noble goal. I used to be heavy into debates against feminism, gay pride, and all that SJW nonsense, but the Lord has melted all that away, none of it matters. Because if you follow the Spirit of the Lord, you don't have to worry about winning debates because you realize that the Lord will fight for you if you would lean on him in prayer. The Lord IS reality i'm learning more and more.

      You shouldn't worry about any of this illuminati nonsense unless the Lord commands you to speak concerning so. The Lord will lead you through the lies if you seek his face. You should ask the Lord "What is most important?" He'll answer you.

      O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:- 1 Tim ****6:20

      You can see now why the Lord included this in here. This debate accomplishes absolutely nothing, but edifying the body of Christ and bearing their burdens accomplishes everything. Amen.
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @Renee Roland condemnation prior to investigation is the hieth of ignorance. What means in hillbilly is if you don't look at something before you stop thinking you shouldn't say anything. Satan is counting on your ignorance. Research flat earth truth for yourself. 
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      You may be surprised. The truth is important to God. 
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      Percy Blakeney
      Percy Blakeney
      1 year ago
      +Pacen tho How would I be throwing her under a bus? You are making assumptions, I enjoy Renee's videos.

      This is not a salvation issue, but I stand by my word. ALL of God's word is important, not just some of it.

      The scriptures you reference have no relevance at all to the point at hand.
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      Truth is easy to see if you have eyes to see. 
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      Gravity
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      Pacen tho
      Pacen tho
      1 year ago (edited)
      @Percy Blakeney

      If love has no relevance just because you're too prideful to let this flat earth distraction go, then i'm glad you're not God. Let God be true and every man a liar. Amen.

      It's better to preach that flat earth vs ball earth is just a garbage, unfruitful distraction than to make it a focus, something serious for believers to consider. It's definitely not what the Lord himself is telling me to focus on, so it's useless.

      But if he's personally told you to go on some flat earth mission, hey, what can i say.
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      Percy Blakeney
      Percy Blakeney
      1 year ago
      +Pacen tho You make no sense, what does this have to do with pride? And why are you bringing up things which have nothing to do with the point at hand.

      Flat earth is not even a distraction to begin with, it is people waking up to the truth about where they live. This is not the only truth people are waking up to in these last days.
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      THERAPTURECOMES
      THERAPTURECOMES
      1 year ago
      Listen

      It is a satanic unimportant distraction to getting the gospel out. I could care less round or flat as a micro second after the rapture I THEN will know what it is

      Stop arguing over something as trivial as this and SPREAD THE GOSPEL (1 Cor 15:1-4) This world is about to enter into the 7 yaer tribulation and you want to argue over round or flat????
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      Pacen tho
      Pacen tho
      1 year ago (edited)
      @Percy Blakeney
      The point at hand, and that's always at hand is to preach the gospel to all nations and to grow in Christ. You're missing the point SORELY. People would have no problem with you flat-earth obsessed people if you didn't try and turn it into one of the "requirements" of being a faithful Christian.

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    2. If you guys didn't go around saying "you don't care about God's word because you won't take time out of your christian walk to research the angles of the sun! the circumference of Ohio! The vanishing points of nebraska!", this wouldn't be a satanic distraction to begin with.

      If you just suggested i look into it, fine. But if you erroneously tell me it's a blemish in my walk with God i.e pretending like you're speaking on behalf of God when you're really speaking on behalf of yourself, it's only right that I call BS LOL.

      We lose NOTHING by ignoring the flat earth vs ball earth debate.

      People who want to grow in Christ simply DO NOT care about studying the mathematics of angles and sunspots to merely come up with a speculation they can't know for certain. They shouldn't care and should ignore it completely. God knows for certain, leave it to him.

      "Trust in the Lord with all you heart, lean not on your own understanding"- Prov 3:5
      honey bee 144
      honey bee 144
      1 year ago
      if you honestly just don't care about it, then you shouldn't make a public video about it.....implicating any part of it to be associated with satanism
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      Percy Blakeney
      Percy Blakeney
      1 year ago
      +Pacen tho All your points are invalid and all the bible quotes are out of context. You quoted:

      "Trust in the Lord with all you heart, lean not on your own understanding"- Prov 3:5.

      Well then, where in scripture does it mention the earth is a sphere? Show me. Looks to me you are leaning on your own understanding.

      If all that matters is salvation, then the Bible would be one page. The Bible I have is a thick book.

      People who ignore become ignorant.

      Proverbs 1:22 - How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      It's not a debate. Your not spinning on a ball. Satan has deceived all with the big bang ball thing to control your mind
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      The main reason most don't consider God as real is evolution is taught as truth. It is all a big lie. 
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      Pacen tho
      Pacen tho
      1 year ago (edited)
      @Percy Blakeney
      Oh boy, i know i shouldn't take the bait but man is my flesh weak.Anyone reading this, this is an example of what NOT to do when people try to lead you astray.

      You literally just ignored 95% of what i said LOL. Seems like now you're just speaking out of butt hurt.

      I say the point is to preach the gospel and grow in Christ- you say this is invalid. And people are supposed to take you seriously? Only God can show you the error in your heart, i can CLEARLY see it.

      "Well then, where in scripture does it mention the earth is a sphere?" -

      This is an example of the flesh mind trying to drag you into what they think is important. Not to say he isn't born again, but he needs to ask God to deliver him from his fleshly distractions. He expects me to argue about the shape of the earth. But the correct response: The shape of the earth means nothing. Christ is ALL that matters. Praise the Lord God, creator of all things. Amen.

      Did you read what i said or were you too emotional to comprehend it? You quote proverbs 1:22 as if to imply i don't seek knowledge. LOL! Looks like you forgot some scripture. As it is written:

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    3. ....So they may know the mystery of God, namely Christ. in whom are hidden ALL the treasures of wisdom and KNOWLEDGE.- Col 2:2-3

      Remember what you told me? "

      "ALL of God's word is important, not just some of it."- Truer words were never spoken.

      Looks like all that matters IS salvation. As Christ IS salvation and wisdom and knowledge are hidden IN HIM, he who IS salvation. So then when you focus on SALVATION, you get wisdom and knowledge THROWN IN, killing 3 birds with one stone. Well what do you know?

      Like i said, Let God be true and every man a liar. Praise the Lord! Amen! Praise the Lord he does not want us to sidetracked by vain things but wants all the focus to be on his son! The tree of Life!

      Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.- Col 2:8

      Amen.


      Man i just learned a lesson speaking with you. Praise the Lord! I see satan in the following:

      1. You trying to flip God's word on me to say that because i refuse of MY own EFFORT to research and become involved in flat earth and would rather trust in God to eventually reveal all things, i'm leaning on my own understanding. This really is spiritual warfare, as i'm baffled you couldn't see the contradiction in your statement.

      I feel like Jesus combating Satan with scripture in the wilderness. LOL.
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      Percy Blakeney
      Percy Blakeney
      1 year ago
      +Pacen tho What a waste of space, you might as well go to the home cooking forum.

      All of what you say is completely irrelevant to the topic being discussed.

      No more comments from me.
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @Percy Blakeney research flat earth truth
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      Lmao you are blind
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      What is a rain bow to you
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      Pacen tho
      Pacen tho
      1 year ago (edited)
      @Percy Blakeney
      This is amazing what's happening right now LOL, right out of scripture folks.

      Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.- James 4:7*

      Not to say he's the devil himself, but that the Devil is definitely speaking through him via his flesh by trying to undermine the pure gospel of Christ in favor of flat earth and he doesn't even realize it.

      "*All of what you say is completely irrelevant* to the topic being discussed."

      Translation: Why won't you take the bait and debate with me about my speculation of the shape of the earth instead of preaching Christ, who is over all, in all, and through all? Why won't you entertain my flesh?

      Not gonna happen...as it is written:

      *"and do not give the devil a foothold."*- Eph 4:27

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    4. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.- Heb 4:12

      Amen. Praise the Lord for his Word to weed out the distractions! All you need is the Word of God and God's leading folks. Amen.
      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @Renee Roland google we never went to the moon
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      Timmy watson
      Timmy watson
      1 year ago
      John Patterson satan only uses dumbasses like you to deflect from the truth of Christ in order to cloud minds and judgment concerning a "flat earth conspiracy"...dumbass
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      honey bee 144
      honey bee 144
      1 year ago
      John Patterson so many "christians" on here are wolves in sheep's clothing!! some channels are so sketchy! they are so negative, mocking and angry seeming with lots of vicious attack dogs! and hints of masonry????
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      wtom04
      wtom04
      1 year ago
      +John Patterson A full MOON can be clearly seen on a clear night and the sun can clearly be seen on a clear day during sunset and it's obvious they are ROUND in shape just like a ball. The same is true of planet earth. You cannot refute NASA satellites and the many astronauts in the space program who have taken vivid pictures of the earth decades ago and even now. The earth is ROUND.
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @Gods Willow 144 thanks for your help. I have been awake for a while, I am used to it. I think their programming is what they are spewing. I would to if I heard flat earth and didn't know. I have all kinds of things to consider. The truth is important to God
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @Rush Ron and the@wtom04 read this article from nasa. aplanetruth.info
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @Rush Ron 9@Rush Ron nasa. https://aplanetruth.info/2016/07/29/nasa-reference-publication-1207-1988-derivation-and-definition-of-a-linear-aircraft-model/
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @wtom04 read this article from nasa, https://aplanetruth.info/2016/07/29/nasa-reference-publication-1207-1988-derivation-and-definition-of-a-linear-aircraft-model/
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @Rush Ron can I ask you what do think happened on 9.11 in New York
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    5. John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @wtom04 I think a ball is easier to use
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @Timmy watson like thinking spinning and hurtling though space is easier but you never feel any thing
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      wtom04
      wtom04
      1 year ago
      @Rush Ron LOL!! Watch someone come up with BS claiming that Osama Bin Laden is still alive. Off the wall galore!
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @Timmy watson aplanetruth.info
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      wtom04
      wtom04
      1 year ago
      @John Patterson The earth is a ball.
      wtom04
      wtom04
      1 year ago
      @John Patterson It's people who have flat heads because a large portion of their mind is deluded and missing.
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      You guys can read right. 
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @Gods Willow 144 thanks again .Pray for the masses to AWAKEN, ,,,,,,,,,
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @wtom04 and butt ugly 
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      John Patterson
      John Patterson
      1 year ago
      @wtom04 you people are easy to fool. Easy because you think you're government likes 
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      Chainsmoke2
      Chainsmoke2
      1 year ago
      Yes, Buzz Aldrin is an actor-naut, and a disgusting human being who has lied to the entire world.
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      General Lee
      General Lee
      9 months ago
      Have you ever heard of people falling off the earth?
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      cha thor
      cha thor
      9 months ago
      Pacen tho I admire your faith in the lord. FLAT EARTH IS SATAN'S DISTRACTION. If only those flat earthers focus more on GOD teachings.
      Sola Ecclesia Ecclesia Dei Movement
      Sola Ecclesia Ecclesia Dei Movement
      7 months ago
      Agreed but believing in the flat earth saves no one only Jesus does.
      Access Dawah
      Access Dawah
      5 months ago
      John Patterson
      I know the globe is a joke and a laugh even, but this whole movement is very dangerous brother, we all know the earth is flat let's move on now, instead of chewing it over and over, they want to distract us while they are picking a fight with Russia and China before we know it brother it will be all over in a few days.
      So we need to be very careful.
      God bless.
      Astral Angel 777
      Astral Angel 777
      3 months ago
      Renee Roland It does matter. Because the globe takes God out of the picture.
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      Lorenzo Ramirez
      Lorenzo Ramirez
      3 months ago
      Renee Roland it is a distraction if we dive into it more than spreading the gospel of the kingdom and getting people saved etc...BUT as analytically sharp as you are (prob one of the best scripturally speaking 😊) God never not once told us that we are a spinning ball sustained in some random vacuum by a giant burning ball of fire all sustained by a mysterious force called gravity 😒. Science (anti God) and public schools (anti God) force fed us that as early as pre school if not earlier...hmmm I wonder why they were so persistent to get the jump on God before we got a chance to read Genesis, planets are nothing but wandering stars, the sun and moon are self sustaining lights placed locally WITHIN the firmament to give us light, designate seasons and run their circate throughout the earth plane. How could Joshua stop the sun if the earth was spinning while flying through the nothingness called "space" 🤔. Again this isn't a really important issue but CAN be if we look at the greater ramifications of Satan's deceptions. NASA was not founded with God in mind at all, the enemy wants no part of the truth to be received by ppl. Evolution is antichrist and to believe the earth is a round Rocky ball, that idea ONLY comes from the big bang, not the bible.

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    6. Matthew Caligari
      Amen!

      JESUS & His flat Earth https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s3aKTE

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      Matthew Caligari
      Matthew Caligari
      1 year ago
      Round earth with trillions of galaxies = Glory of evolution/insignificance of man/woman.

      Flat enclosed earth that doesn't move = biblical, importance of man/woman.

      NASA in hebrew means "to deceive"
      NASA logo is a snakes tongue, snake being the serpent.

      Flat earth absolutely does matter! Scripture talks of the great deception!

      Round globe earth = UFOs, open to alien invasion, etc.

      Round globe absolutely needs to exposed!
      No one has ever been to "space" the sun isn't 93 million miles away, the sun is local, very local and is small, very small.
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      Monorail Beyond the Veil*
      Monorail Beyond the Veil*
      11 months ago
      I realize this comment is 2 months old, but I agree. I very much respect Renee, but she and I have to agree to disagree over the subject of flat earth. The Bible makes more sense since I started to realize the earth is flat as recently as January of this year.

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    7. chilbury
      I'm saved by God's undeserved gift of God's grace through faith in the atoning blood of JESUS Christ and I'm a a flat earth adherent
      and we don't need the 'book of Enoch', and the reason why it's not in the Bible is because it's not biblical. http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-book-of-enoch-is-satanic-garbage.html
      Unfortunately Renee takes this unbiblical book very serious.

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      chilbury
      chilbury
      1 year ago
      Scientific facts!!! Water doesn't stick to a ball!!! It finds it owns level!! Wrong Renee!!! Jesus said seek the truth!! every Truth!!! Finding out the lie of the ball earth is part of finding the lies of the moon landings and other Satans lies!! You found out the lies of the NIV didn't you well We are finding out the lies of NASA ball EARTH, ....
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      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      1 year ago
      This is a salvation channela nd the argument is distracting from our purpose..taking over entire threads...GRAVITY explains the brilliance of how God makes hte water stick...its actually more amazing the earth would be round n how it all works..sorry I've heard all the arguments and I just don't care and I'm not convince. SEE how this is causing division? The FOUNDATION YOU AND ALL THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS ON HERE HAVE IS THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST, THE REAL GOSPEL so I don't want anything to cause divison..we can disagree on this..without being disagreeable. If I'm wrong then God will let me know if He thinks its important I be clear on whether I live on a ball or a flat surface...just don't really care to be honest. Bible says the SPHERE of the earth...THE ROUNDNESS/FULLNESS THEREOF AND "HE HANGS THE EARTH ON NOTHING" etc...so I don't have a problem with it..many places explain that he put the moon/Sun and stars in their place and the MOVE for "signs and for seasons" and also some star groups move and others are stationary like Orion and Pleiedes...so I trust God's word gave me all I need. xo
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    8. chilbury
      1 year ago
      Its not causing division lol silly!! I respect your opinion but please don't poo poo The flat earth theory !! Let me tell you why ,Satan/NASA have lied to us for many years ,The Ball earth theory is a total lie to give the audience the feeling GODS so far away billions of light year in fact!! The Flat Earth belief brings you so much closer to GODS creation looking At the moon now for me!! man its so close I can touch it! The firmament is a dome over our earth!! If you believe The BOOK OF ENOCH he explains the FLAT EARTH THEROY..
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      chilbury
      chilbury
      1 year ago
      Renee pray on it I did I was like you to my friend I said the same things you're saying hahaha Then I asked GOD and I could SEE in my mind GOD looking down on a flat table at his creation!! MAN I was blow away just like you will ok Bless ya cotton socks mate!!
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      Fruitivores. com
      Fruitivores. com
      1 year ago (edited)
      @Renee Roland
      I truly think people are wanting to expose a BIG LIE of Ball-Earth to be able to BITE INTO that and say to all their friends and unbelievers: "SEE WHY YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO JESUS CHRIST!!"
      And I get that because I would love that too.
      It's because not all have your gifts of scriptural discernment yet and it's difficult to have Scripture at the ready for unbelievers, or on-the-fencer's, and don't even get me started on the Atheist's ha ha ha
      Believers are sick and tired of God being removed from schools and the media spending more time on transgender bathrooms than on ANY Christian issue.
      Yes, you want the channel to be ALL TRUST IN JESUS ONLY FOR SALVATION, but at the same time you go deeper than that too.
      I think the fact that people want a HUGE LIE EXPOSED, is SO THAT they can proudly hold up their Jesus Christ signs again.
      It's still difficult to GET OUT THERE AND PROCLAIM, and being able to say: "Oh you believe SCIENCE and GOVT, and NASA..... hmm how did that work out for us with the Ball-Earth??"
      I so get their desire to EXPOSE a BIG BIG LIE of satan's.
      In this age everything is SO COOL, except proclaiming your love and obedience to Jesus Christ......... so I think people just want to get a public "win" type thing for Jesus.
      And yes, we already have the "BIG WIN" with knowing we are "SAVED" and "RESTING IN THAT" ........ but it's human nature to want to get an "of-the-World" win and shove Jesus back into the public space.
      I think that's what the big fuss is.

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    9. Renee Roland,
      'If I'm wrong then God will let me know if He thinks its important I be clear on whether I live on a ball or a flat surface
      ...just don't really care to be honest.'

      Yes, you're wrong on this and God is letting you know through others and me and you're not honest, because you love to watch videos like this that mock the flat earth truth: Flat Earthers Full Retard Mode Episode 14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PiettY-kKc

      I made a topic on my side about people who don't want to believe in the flat earth reality: God's Footstool is the FLAT EARTH - Globe Earthers want to be acceptable to the Vatican controlled society https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/07/gods-footstool-is-flat-earth-globe.html

      JESUS is the way, the life and the TRUTH and the flat earth is the TRUTH.
      Yes, it's not about salvation, but John 8:32 says:
      And shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

      I pray for you that God, our Savior and Lord JESUS will show you and Jim the flat earth truth and that He also will show you the the truth that we're saved from burning forever in the eternal lake of fire and that annihilationism is a lie. https://www.gotquestions.org/annihilationism.html
      And I pray for you that God-the Lord JESUS will show you that the 'book of Enoch' is evil garbage: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-book-of-enoch-is-satanic-garbage.html

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    1. We all deserve to burn in hell https://www.gotquestions.org/annihilationism.html Nobody deserves (earns) to be saved: it's all a matter of God's imputed righteousness by grace through faith in the forgiving blood of JESUS. Thanks to Him I'm not going to burn forever.

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      Bailey Coker
      Bailey Coker
      1 hour ago
      Nobody lives "right".
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      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      49 minutes ago
      Ha exactly
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      Awakened sky
      Awakened sky
      5 minutes ago
      Bailey Coker I believed in the finished work of Jesus & by doing THAT, I'm living right✅😂😀😂
      It's all because of Christ or nothing....

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    2. @Charles Pieters
      Then read at least the following:


      Our Great Commission

      Paul refers to the gospel he preached as "my gospel" (Romans 16:25), "that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles" (Galatians 2:2), "the gospel of the uncircumcision" (Galatians 2:7), "the gospel of Christ" (Galatians 1:6-7), "the gospel of the grace of God" (Acts 20:24), "the gospel of your salvation" (Ephesians 1:13), "the gospel of peace" (Ephesians 6:15), and "the gospel of God" (1 Thessalonians 2:2). I have frequently heard people refer to Paul's gospel as the "gospel of grace", but most often as simply "the gospel". Regardless of what it is called, it is the gospel that God revealed to Paul and it is different from the gospel of the kingdom which was preached before by John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, and the twelve.

      ..............

      Copyright © 1998 Matthew McGee. All rights reserved. http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html

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      Charles Pieters
      Charles Pieters
      2 hours ago
      @Hans S . TOO many red flags in your LINK , most prob. written by a lawless person.

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    3. @Gregory Apple Read and interpret the Bible in its right context, following this Biblical principle:
      2 Timothy 2:15 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
      Study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, dividing the word of truth aright.

      2 Timothy 2:15 King James Version (KJV)
      15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

      We are ALL SINNERS and UNSAVED sinners are in principle LOST FOREVER!
      BUT, God provided THE WAY to ESCAPE God's WRATH and that's by God's UNDESERVED GIFT of GRACE through FAITH in the atoning, the forgiving BLOOD of JESUS Christ.

      We're currently living in the DISPENSATION of God's GRACE, which means that we can ONLY receive God's ETERNAL salvation by BELIEVING in what JESUS has DONE for us, which is the shedding of His sinless BLOOD for our sins.

      He appointed a SPECIAL Apostle called Paul to be the 'Moses for the Body of Christ'.
      Moses gave God's CHOSEN PEOPLE the LAW on behalf of God and Paul gave the members of the Body of Christ the OPPOSITE of the LAW, on behalf of God-the Lord JESUS, which is UNDESERVED GRACE through FAITH alone in what JESUS has DONE for us!

      In the days of Noah the WICKED were taken away, meaning they were DROWNED by the Flood and they PERISHED.

      When JESUS said "one will be taken, the other left" He was NOT preaching to the members of the Body of Christ WHICH DIDN'T YET EXIST!
      He was preaching to His OWN PEOPLE, the HEBREWS.

      Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation.

      The entire book of Revelation, including chapters 1-3, is deeply rooted in Old Testament prophecy. It is doctrinally aligned with the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude, all of whom were apostles of the circumcision, as well as to the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, and the Old Testament.

      The dispensation of grace in which we now live is revealed in Romans through Philemon, our Apostle Paul's letters to the Gentiles, with Acts being the book of transition between the two dispensations.

      Source: http://www.matthewmcgee.org/7church.html

      Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
      http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html

      So, to answer you question: 'Did Jesus say those who are left are wicked?'

      Answer: this doesn't refer to the RAPTURE but to the TIME OF JACOB'S (ISRAEL'S) TROUBLE-GREAT TRIBULATION, after the rapture.

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      Sonic Grace
      Sonic Grace
      3 days ago
      This whole left behind stuff is foolishness . They are clueless what the rapture is . Bless you Sis :)
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      Hans S
      Hans S
      3 days ago
      The whole left behind stuff is foolishness if people haven't heard (understood) and believed the right gospel of Grace. All who are saved and born again, whether they're deceased or still alive, are rapture-ready.
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      Gregory Apple
      Gregory Apple
      1 day ago
      Even in the Olivet Discourse, Jesus said the flood took away the wicked in the days of Noah...then immediately says "one will be taken, the other left".

      Which were taken in the days of Noah? The wicked.

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    1. @IGIC KNOXVILLE IF we are SAVED, we are SAVED by God-the Lord JESUS from His ETERNAL WRATH!
      Romans 5:9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)


      9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

      His WRATH is the ETERNAL Lake of fire, the SECOND DEATH, which is the eternal SEPARATION from God, being at full CONSCIENCENESS and NOT, being DESTROYED and then being in a state of non-existence, like the ANNIHILATIONISTS assert, which is a LIE.

      We are saved from BURNING FOREVER IN THE LAKE OF FIRE!
      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 second ago
      @Recovering Baptist
      Why have you BLOCKED me, Karen Reid?
      I can read everything you say if I use another browser with which I'm not signed in:

      Recovering Baptist3 days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMo1MiGh65A&lc=UgyWj2oneKi2wRJJopV4AaABAg.8nDkINxayLt8nNGAuhGAEA
      +CJ


      Another great reply CJ! Please read mine above, too! On which video can John Hinds comments be found?

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      You will NEVER be able to block me in God's heavenly Kingdom, but here in SATAN'S REALM you can, and Satan LOVES it when believers in JESUS Christ DO NOT LOVE EACH OTHER!

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      CJ CJ1 week ago (edited)
      Thank you so much brother! There is so many who have tried to show this woman the truth but she will not listen and her followers are so indoctrinated by this garbage she is preaching because it allows them to not be convicted by the Holy Spirit and lead them unto righteousness ....it allows them to be comfortable in their sin and still believe they will be saved! There is no conviction of the heart and they end up quenching the Spirit. She has a program on her channel that blocks people now, someone showed her this to keep out anyone that tries to refute her! So not only is she leading others astray, new babes in Christ will not see any comments proving her wrong! She has set herself up to block righteous brethrenso she can decietfully present herself as an angel of light while using the word of God to make money on her channel. I dont usually go on like this speaking of others in this manner, but many are being led astray by her and defend her above even more than even their Messiah! (see John Hinds comment!) Anyway I love the Lord and LOVE His commandments and am in the Spirit and this woman vexes my righteous soul as you also have spoken of! When I recieved the Holy Spirit it made me a new creature! I cannot stand sin! I am vexed daily by this wicked false doctrine these people are teaching! What do they think Christ died for? Too bring them out of their sin and make them a new creature through the guidance of the Holy Spirit! That is what quickened is. Thank you brother I agree with all that you have said here! Bless you brother!
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    2. Recovering Baptist3 days ago
      +CJ


      Another great reply CJ! Please read mine above, too! On which video can John Hinds comments be found?
      John Hind
      John Hind3 days ago (edited)
      @Recovering Baptist Wow!!! You have acknowledged me for my love for my precious friend and beautiful sweet sister in the Lord Jesus Christ , Renee as she is by far the best evangelist on youtube , I shout it from the rooftops hallelujah , Amen Amen Amen!!!!! I think Christmas has come early!!! Happy Christmas!!! Many thanks for your acknowledgement of my love for my precious beautiful sweet sister Renee. I have assurance of my free gift of salvation in the atonement at Calvary , his righteousness imputed on me. The holy spirit led me to my beautiful sweet sister Renee's channel , since then I have never looked back and been so happy in the Lord Jesus Christ. My precious friend and beautiful sweet sister in the Lord Jesus Christ is a gift from my father god in heaven and is a real blessing to me. As for IGIC KNOXVILLE , I have nothing more to say to him , I have finished with him, that's why I have deleted all my comments and messages to him!!! While God lends me breathe l continue to defend my precious friend and beautiful sweet sister in the Lord Jesus Christ Renee Roland and her ministry and make no apologies as it my God given privilege. Amen Amen Amen!!!!!
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      John Hind
      John Hind3 days ago
      CJ CJ Many thanks for acknowledging my love for my beautiful sweet sister Renee Roland , no matter what you or IGIC KNOXVILLE or Recovering Baptist alias Karen Reid say my beautiful sweet sister Renee Roland in the Lord Jesus Christ is by far the best evangelist on youtube , immense will her rewards be in heaven , hallelujah , Amen Amen Amen!!!!
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      John Hind
      John Hind3 days ago (edited)
      Christmas really has come early having the God given privilege of defending my beautiful sweet sister Renee Roland in the Lord Jesus Christ of whom I continue to defend while my father God in heaven lends me breathe. Amen Amen Amen!!!!! Happy Christmas!
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      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      IGIC KNOXVILLE3 days ago
      @John Hind , What are we saved from?
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      IGIC KNOXVILLE3 days ago
      @John Hind , and you deleted your messages because you said we don't need to love God , and our neighbors. As well , you said you were bias.
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    3. CJ CJ3 days ago
      @John Hind How absolutely sad that your disgusting lust for Renee exceeds the praises of your Lord and Saviour.
      John Hind
      John Hind3 days ago (edited)
      @CJ CJ Wow! It seems to me you don't know the difference between love and lust!!! I simply love Renee as a beautiful sweet forgiving sister in my saviour the Lord Jesus Christ , end of! that's why I defend her against all those who ruthlessly attack her.
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      CJ CJ3 days ago (edited)
      @John Hind .... I dont participate in pagan rituals, bow the knee to baal or partake in the doctrine of the nicolaitans because my Lord and Saviour HATES IT. And I always hear His voice and try to do that which pleases him because I am led by HIS Spirit and anothers voice I will not follow. It is sad how many claim to love their Lord yet choose to love the world and lust after the things in the world and live in their lustful flesh instead of walking in the Spirit. They will not come into the Light because they love darkness rather than light lest their DEEDS be reproved. Flesh and blood will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Repent and do the first works which is works meet for repentance. But I guess thats to much work for you. What is biblical love John? And what are we saved from? WAKE UP PLEASE!
      John Hind
      John Hind3 days ago (edited)
      @CJ CJ l know my beautiful sweet sister Renee and myself are saved from the penalty of the law ( which is being cast out into outer darkness forever ) by trusting in the atonement at Calvary and now live by faith and grace. Jesus says done religion says do. Furthermore , I love the Lord with all my heart and all my soul as does my beautiful sweet sister Renee. However , I find it extremely hard to love those who take a delight in hurtful criticism and unkind gossip. I just wish to God I had such a forgiving nature like my precious friend and beautiful sweet sister in the Lord Jesus Christ Renee Roland , and here I rest my case.
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      Plane777 A5 hours ago
      @John Hind I second that, I support our sweet sister Renee too! Thank you so much for defending our precious sister, who is so unjustly misunderstood and maligned. At least you are known by all of Renee's enemies for loving Renee, well, I want to be known for my love and support for our precious, sweet sister too! Your Friend and Brother in the Lord!
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      Plane777 A5 hours ago (edited)
      @CJ CJ No, John Hind does not have 'disgusting lust' for Renee. I know John Hind very well and for you to accuse him of that when I know 110% that is not true, is definite proof that I can not rely on the information and conclusions on your videos at all. If you can accuse John like that, that is how you will accuse other people including Renee. If you can accuse on mere appearance and automatically believe the most horrible things about people, that is going to be the whole intellectual basis for making a video against Renee. So, now I know we do not have to agree with this video! I am not meaning any disrespect to you and I appreciate the fact you do want to serve God, but I must defend this accusation against my brother in the Lord. Besides, Yeshua clearly says we will know His disciples/followers by their love for one another. On Renee's channel, all of her supporters love her, and each other. We all express Christian love to each other, like the Bible says we should do. That is something I have NEVER seen on those who oppose Renee so strongly.

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    4. @John Hind Please know what 'Christmas' means: CHRISTMAS IS SATANIC!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQn-2HnOPWA
      More: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/search/label/X-mas

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      John Hind
      3 days ago (edited)
      Christmas really has come early having the God given privilege of defending my beautiful sweet sister Renee Roland in the Lord Jesus Christ of whom I continue to defend while my father God in heaven lends me breathe. Amen Amen Amen!!!!! Happy Christmas!

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    5. @IGIC KNOXVILLE Matthew 24 is for the JEWS ONLY!
      Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
      http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html

      Matthew 24 Explained Rightly Divided Proving Pretribulation Rapture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxIUpkLi7Ck

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      Plane777 A
      Plane777 A
      4 hours ago
      Although you've got the right to have your own opinion and take on Scripture, I do not agree with you either. Judging a book by it's cover ie judging and condemning Renee Roland's entire motivation, beliefs and ministry just by two videos, older ones at that from a couple of years ago, is unfair. I know what she teaches because I've watched practically every one of them. As she has progressed, her videos have become better and more doctrinally accurate, with more facts. Some people really misunderstand her message. Renee Roland simply teaches that Jesus' blood and sacrifice is so holy and infinite in nature, He has paid it all and completely for us and adding our own impure, filthy rags righteousness to stay saved is not good enough, and Yahweh deserves ALL the glory for our salvation, not just part of it. As a result of that, we have the grace that 'teaches us to say no to temptation' (Titus). When people try to threaten that grace and experience of the Father's love for us (which strengthens us against sin) by saying we can loose it or it is insecure, Renee refutes those arguments, which are based on misunderstandings of what the Bible really teaches, to give people freedom and hope, thus can serve God with a thankful, pure heart. That is what Renee is all about - serving God with a pure heart rather than just serving God for our own self - just to save our skin and keep saved. Renee never teaches that it is OK to keep on sinning and says in practically every video 'this is not a license to sin' 'you should repent and turn from your sin once you're saved' 'if you sin, there will be consequences.' Renee is just animated and thus it is easy to misunderstand and pick on her (accuse her of saying it is now OK to sin) - ie she is not telling people we can sin now, she is just refuting the idea that we have to live in fear and be terrified of God just because we are not perfect.
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      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      4 hours ago
      God bless you , this video makes it clear that she does not understand what she is teaching or affirming.
      https://youtu.be/bkjZq0aemWQ
      She is one of the people I have seen skew the written text the most , some are anoited to teach and others are not. Baruch HaShem.
      Plane777 A
      Plane777 A
      4 hours ago
      @IGIC KNOXVILLE I think you are the ONLY one of Renee's opposers who has ever said 'God bless you' to me. I thank you for that and it shows me that you do sincerely love God, but with all due respect, I just disagree with you for opposing Renee and your take on Scripture. God Bless You too.
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      4 hours ago
      @Plane777 A , You should read Isaiah the prophet"s view on the gospel "Glad tidings" , unfortunately a lot of people can misuse and misunderstand the writings of Paul (2 Pet. 3: 15-17) , but fortunately we have many more witnesses , prophets, and apostles to learn from , amen! Shalom aleichem.


      Mat. 24: 11-14
      And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

      And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

      But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

      And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
      Plane777 A
      Plane777 A
      4 hours ago
      @IGIC KNOXVILLE One thing we can both agree on, and that is, we love Israel/Jews. I have so much pride in Israel/Jacob/Abraham, because the LORD choose him/that nation. Shalom

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    6. @Plane777 A Yes, ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED is the truth for those who believe we are saved by God's UNDESERVED Gift of GRACE through FAITH alone in the BLOOD of JESUS that was shed for our SINS and that JESUS rose from the dead.
      But from WHAT did JESUS save us?
      From a short stay in the lake of fire and then eternal NON-EXISTENCE?
      No, the Lord JESUS Christ saved us from His ETERNAL WRATH which is the SECOND DEATH, the ETERNAL SEPARATION from Him and TOTAL DAMNATION in full AWARENESS and CONSCIOUSNESS!
      Renee agrees with Luke sincitypreacher and others who believe in ANNIHILATIONISM, which is a LIE.
      Annihilationism is in the interest of the Satan the devil.

      Annihilationism goes AGAINST the CORE message of the GOOD NEWS, the GOSPEL.
      Are annihilationists saved? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Are+annihilationists+saved%3F&t=ffsb&ia=web

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      Karly
      Karly
      1 day ago (edited)
      I do not agree with you. Your open condemnations and accusations of my sister Renee only serve to strengthen her. You scare me rather than uplift me but my new sister Mary gave me the courage to not walk in fear. Renee is annointed and elevated and inspires hope. Please stop fearmongering and hating and denying truth. Renee is beloved and loved by the lord. What an honour to step up to the plate for dearest Renee. Thank you Jesus for the opportunity to provide me courage to speak out when I am not articulate but Jesus gave me words. Thats right...JESUS!
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      Micah Ysrael
      Micah Ysrael
      1 day ago
      You are Being lead bye blind. Leaders.This woman is Full of the anti Christ Spirit.
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      1 day ago
      Heb 12: 28-29 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

      For our God is a consuming fire.
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      1 day ago
      Jude 1:21-23 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

      And of some have compassion, making a difference:

      And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.


      Shabbat Shalom , elohim baruch atah. Shabbath peace and God bless you , sister.
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      1 day ago
      This video shows she does not properly understand the knowledge of truth , I hope it blesses you. https://youtu.be/bkjZq0aemWQ
      IGIC KNOXVILLE

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    7. IGIC KNOXVILLE
      1 day ago
      @Micah Ysrael , Shabbat Shalom brother.
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      James Eads
      James Eads
      1 day ago
      @IGIC KNOXVILLE Shabbat Shalom
      John Hind
      John Hind
      17 hours ago (edited)
      Karly you are a breathe of the fresh pure clean air of the holy spirit , those nut jobs who openly condemn our beautiful sweet sister Renee are only serving to strengthen her , they too scare me rather than uplift me , Mary too gave me the courage not walk in fear ; those nut jobs are like those stuck in bog or quick sand , the more they struggle the more they sink , they are more to be pitied than scorned! Like you I feel privileged and honoured and regard it as a gift from our father god in heaven to be able speak out for her and defend her ministry. Our beautiful sweet sister Renee , is a gift from our father god in heaven to me and many others!

      God bless you and agape love xo ,

      Your new friend and brother in the Lord Jesus Christ ,

      John.
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      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      17 hours ago
      @John Hind , Luk 6: 32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
      Mat 5: 46-47 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

      And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
      John Hind
      John Hind
      17 hours ago (edited)
      @IGIC KNOXVILLE It's interesting I have never seen Renee's enemies exchanging agape love xo to one another. I have even known them to be at each other's throats! Renee has always uplifted me , given me peace , joy and freedom in the Lord Jesus Christ by the power of the holy spirit working in her. On the other hand those who criticise her have always scared me and given me the creeps!
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      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      16 hours ago
      @John Hind , I have no idea what you are talking about sir , I am not her enemy , she is the enemy of the cross, I teach to edify believers and to bring those in darkness into light, your character needs vast improvement, you come across very hypocritical. You told me we don't need to love God or our Neighbors, now you say you haven't seen Renee's enemies loving each other. Sir , according to you they don't need nor have too , so why does it even bother you? You are only trying to cause strife and contention, I forgive you for your attempts to do that and say, God bless you.
      John Hind
      John Hind
      15 hours ago (edited)
      @IGIC KNOXVILLE For all I care Renee's enemies and those who criticise her can punch and kick each other into eternal oblivion!!!! Then there will be no more strife and contention , Renee and her friends will be able to spread the true evangelical gospel of the cross in peace , and live without any body trying to destroy the peace joy and freedom we have in our precious saviour the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.
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      Plane777 A
      5 hours ago
      Karly, I agree with you. I think Igic should be careful because when people make videos trying to expose Renee, what actually happens is people listen to eg Igic, then go and investigate Renee themselves, then feel the Spirit moving from Renee and hear Renee's teachings fully, then actually unsubscribe and subscribe to Renee's channel! They realize what Renee is actually teaching and that she is accurate, and NOT teaching people it is now OK to sin. They also realise how unfair Renee's critics are, because they feel the love of God oozing out of her and see her Christ like behavior. Renee has over 7800 subs, some of them from people who watch videos like this too. That is why our precious and beloved sister does not refute videos like this anymore. Agape love to you Karly, your new friend and brother in the Lord Jesus Christ.
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    8. Plane777 A
      4 hours ago (edited)
      @John Hind, I can not agree with you more, my wonderful brother! The people who make videos against Renee NEVER have a positive message. It is ALWAYS negative and frightening in some way or just outright mean. After watching Renee's always uplifting videos, my obedience to our Holy Father has increased; because I am no longer relying on my sinful, stinking flesh to obey Him, but relying on His grace to please Him. Renee's videos are for those who have woken up to themselves and realise that Yahweh is really, really Holy and you CAN NOT ever hope to please Him with our obedience. The whole point of the law was to stir up sin in us (Romans). So the only way to obey Him is to totally rely on Him for salvation and give Him ALL the glory for our salvation and for every good we do. That is why OSAS is the better way, not this fearmongering 'God has given us a spirit of fear' theology (Romans says that in relation to works (obedience and salvation), God has NOT given us a spirit of fear and bondage, but one of son ship, we can cry out ABBA Father! The one thing I can say for Igic in his defense is that, although I totally disagree with him, he is one of the better/nicer ones who oppose our beloved sister Renee. There are those who are just pure venom. God Bless, brother and friend in the Lord.
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      John Hind
      4 hours ago (edited)
      @Plane777 A ln reading your comment , do you think I have reacted to Igic too harshly? I think you are right , he is one the nicer ones who oppose Renee , with hindsight I am beginning to think in my disagreement with him l should have been more diplomatic. I love your gift of diplomacy , one of my weaknesses has always been knee jerk reactions like Peter who chopped off one of the ears of those who came to arrest Jesus. I guess I ought to apologise to Igic for my lack of diplomacy , I could do with your advice brother as we are all growing in grace , God bless.
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      Plane777 A
      4 hours ago
      @John Hind I think Igic will read this and see for himself that you did not mean anything harsh. This shows that you just disagree with him and are sick of people misunderstanding our sister Renee. Only a Godly person would write this to me on an opposers page, about an opposer. You showing love to Igic in this comment to me should hopefully be proof to him what Renee is all about (by our fruits we shall be known) and that you are not a hypocrite at all. If you wanted to be harsh, somehow, I do not think you'd be writing this to me on HIS channel. All of Renee's viewers love God and obviously love people, and that is evidenced in you. That is THE defining fruit of Christianity and whether you truly know Yeshua or not.
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      John Hind
      3 hours ago (edited)
      @Plane777 A Cheers and many thanks brother for your kind words of encouragement and God bless.

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    9. tony costanzo
      Amen, Tony, we're saved FOREVER, thanks to JESUS!

      Once Saved Always Saved https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2017/07/once-saved-always-saved.html
      Renee is LOST because she doesn't believe she's saved from God's ETERNAL WRATH=the eternal LAKE OF FIRE.
      She believes we're saved from NOTHINGNESS!!
      Annihilating Annihilationism http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/11/annihilating-annihilationism.html#comment-form

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      tony costanzo
      tony costanzo
      20 minutes ago
      you can not loose your salvation , love JESUS , I dont like her any way , but you are a works lordship salvation person ,

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    10. tony costanzo
      Once Saved Always Saved
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2017/07/once-saved-always-saved.html
      Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
      http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html

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      tony costanzo
      tony costanzo
      11 minutes ago (edited)
      SO YOUR THE ONE THAT CARRIED THE CROSS , YOU ARE DIRTY AS A FILTHY RAG YOUR TEACHING THAT YOU CAN LOOSE YOUR SALVATION saved people are joyful , happy , and love JESUS ,and dont have to worrie about hell anymore

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    11. @John Hind I'm glad we agree on this and our Saviour JESUS NEVER commemorated His day of Birth, so why should we?
      Something else, John, and I know you love Renee and I love her too, but she believes in something which is very wrong and which goes against the SIMPLE Biblical truth: Pray for Renee: she believes in ANNIHILATIONISM and she's AGAINST the FLAT EARTH truth and she's NOT against 'Christmas' http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/06/pray-for-sister-renee.html
      I'm a follower of our Lord JESUS through His Apostle Paul and of no one else.
      God-the Lord JESUS bless you!

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      John Hind
      John Hind
      5 minutes ago
      @Hans S l agree Christmas has it's routes in paganism , the Romans I understand to them was the celebrating the passing of the winter soltice and the 25th of December is incorporated into this festival. The emperor Constantine , the 1st reputed Christian Roman emperor decided to celebrate Christ's birth to coincide with this pagan festival and over time has gone from there.There is nowhere in scripture which says Jesus was born on the 25th of December. However , there are indications Jesus was born during the feast of tabernacles. God bless you brother.

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    12. @IGIC KNOXVILLE The Gospel of the KINGDOM is for the JEWS:
      Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
      http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html

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      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      IGIC KNOXVILLE
      2 hours ago
      @Hans S , you are the same the same person that said Mt. 24 is ONLY for the Jews , right ?


      Mat. 24: 11-14

      And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

      And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

      But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

      And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

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    13. @John Hind John, JESUS created the earth flat and round, with a firmament and He didn't create a Roman Catholic ball in 'space' and He's God and He has the right to cast ALL of His enemies in HIS eternal lake of fire so that they will be PUNISHED for the fact that they even DARED to have become His adversaries=satans, and He created all humans to be LIKE the angels, so He has NO other option than to cast them into His TRASH CAN, the SECOND DEATH = eternal separation from Him, and subsequently He will IGNORE them forever because He will have FAR BETTER things to do and that's to MARRY HIS BRIDE and be HAPPY forevermore with her.

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      John Hind
      2 hours ago (edited)
      @Hans S To be it's obvious to me that the world is a spherical globe , so on this point to be fair we will have agree to disagree. Like me Renee believes in the suffering of the lost in hades , but when death and hades are cast into the lake of fire , which is the second death we believe all who are cast into the lake of fire will ultimately perish like those in Sodom and Gomorrah. The Lord bless you.

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    14. ShieldOfTheKingdom
      3 hours ago

      Karly I do not believe Renee is anointed, the prophets and apostles were not smokers who were telling people don't turn from sin, Jeremiah and Ezekiel and Isaiah's message to Israel was stop sinning, not turning from sin is self righteousness which is what Renee teaches, you heard me correctly, Renee has stated before in her videos that turning from sin is self righteousness. She like all Fundamental Baptists are Antinomians (preach lawlessness and encourage it).

      So while you fundamentals are preaching believe for salvation, you are missing the point when you turn right around and encourage homosexuality, gay marriage, drunkenness, adultery, smoking, drug use etc. One thing I have noticed among fundamentals is there are number of them that like Satanic metal bands, like Slayer, Renee listens to Slayer and says the band Slayer are actually born again Christians.

      Here is Slayers last Album repentless we have a pentagram behind a black eyed demon possessed Jesus head
      https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91QvGPUjBKL._SL1500_.jpg
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      ShieldOfTheKingdom
      ShieldOfTheKingdom
      3 hours ago
      Plane777 A go and investigate Renee themselves, then feel the Spirit moving from Renee and hear Renee's teachings fully.

      So you are telling us it is the Holy Spirit moving from Renee that is teaching Satanic metal bands are actually born again Christians? And that turning from sin is what the devil wants you to do?

      Quote: Renee has over 7800 subs, some of them from people who watch videos like this too.

      So doctrine is correctly based on how many people sub to your channel? Well then by your logic the amazing atheist must be true then with his 1,031,784 subscribers. There is also no difference between Agape and Phileo and even one of your own Sam Gipp has already proven this.

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    15. @CJ Barnes And should I now feel sorry for you, because you believe you can lose the UNDESERVED GIFT of God's GRACE through faith alone in the BLOOD of JESUS that was shed for our sins?
      If you want to believe you can lose this UNMERITED Gift, then why should I try to stop you?
      You seem to be VERY HAPPY with what you believe.....

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      CJ Barnes
      CJ Barnes
      1 hour ago
      @Hans S
      OSAS is a sneaky little trick from the devil which you and many people are falling for unfortunately.

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    16. @CJ Barnes So God's Holy Spirit inside of me is a DEMON, according to you?
      You know, I'm so FED UP with all those RELIGIOUS FREAKS who think they are more saved and holier than me.
      I'm SO GLAD that God-the Lord JESUS is my BEST FRIEND, so who do you think you are?
      More important than Him?
      Are you His MANAGER?

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      CJ Barnes
      CJ Barnes
      13 minutes ago
      @Hans S
      You don't have to feel sorry for me at all...I already understand the truth of Jesus.....I am not perfect in any way , I make mistakes and I repent ,and ask God for forgiveness and then try to move forward obeying him and growing in Christ ,my Lord and Saviour.and I have no problem with that at all...…..You would call that works and trying to earn your way to Heaven...….I would say nonsense...….This is just a part of being a true Christian with true faith, not a false one with dead faith that only believes in their mind. I would say that I love Jesus and I want to obey him as he commands us to and live a life that he wants us to live which shows true saving faith, out of love and submission to him and what he has done for us on the Cross.
      Unfortunately you are following a false demonic doctrine ,thinking that all you a have to do is believe in your mind and nothing else is needed.....no true faith ,nothing....thinking you will still be going to heaven.

      Don't forget ,you have been warned many times about the false demonic doctrine you are following. When the time comes you wont have any excuses.

      God Bless You.

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    1. @Decebal Trandafir It's about loving JESUS!
      Those who love Him, trust in Him and those who don't, live and die without Him.

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      Decebal Trandafir
      Decebal Trandafir
      1 day ago
      The reason i beleive in God is that i dont have to do good works like religion teaches to go to Heaven. I do good works because i want so. ...and i do it for free. 😇 I was lke a prodical son for God but he broght me back.
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      Hans S
      Hans S
      1 day ago
      There is none righteous no not one.....except JESUS CHRIST https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/11/there-is-none-righteous-no-not.html#more
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      Decebal Trandafir
      Decebal Trandafir
      6 hours ago
      We all make good works but this doesnt mean it counts before God. Im not good wiith all my good deeds. 😎 Stil
      a sinner.

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    2. wtom04
      I told my dad that I had found a new father who wanted to become his father too, and I meant JESUS.

      He thought I had become INSANE, because he was an atheist, and I used to be an atheist too.
      Not long after this he suddenly died due to his unhealthy lifestyle, being an alcoholic.
      I wasn't there when he died, but JESUS was, and JESUS gave me a dream that I was drowning in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, after I saw my mom (his ex-wife) at the shore of south west England, standing like a statue in a niche of the chalk cliffs, and then a strong current drew me away from her toward the ocean and I shouted at her 'hey, you're abandoning me!'. Btw, I live in the Netherlands.
      My dad used to be a ships engineer, sailing all over the world.
      Then amidst huge ice cold waves I thought I would die from hypothermia, and just as I was about to drown I awoke from my dream, because my younger sister rang the doorbell to tell me that our dad had died.
      At the same time my youngest sister, who lived there in south west England when she was married with her ex, was also dreaming with her bedroom window open.
      Our dad came flying through the bedroom window to say goodbye to her and he looked great and much younger and like an angel and he was happy and he called my sister's name and said goodbye to her and left through the open bedroom window.
      This is my only proof that I believe he's saved, but it's more than enough for me, because there was also someone else who dreamed about him when he died and this dream was positive.
      When we asked God if my dad was saved a brother saw a vision of white carnations.
      At the day of the cremation (my dad didn't want a grave) there were white carnations on his coffin.....
      Later my youngest sister became a saved believer in JESUS too and the other one is still unsaved.
      There is none righteous no not one.....except JESUS CHRIST http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/11/there-is-none-righteous-no-not.html

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      wtom04
      wtom04
      1 day ago
      My half brother was like the prodigal son where he believed the gospel decades ago, but then when he immigrated to the U.S., he became pre-occupied with the "pleasures of life": fornication, partying, drinking, and gambling and was carnal up to the very day of his death. He squandered all his money on those pleasures and was so broke that when he died me and my cousin basically paid for the funeral expenses, casket, and his burial. He had no money and before he died he basically left a note on top of his dresser with my name, phone number, and my cousin's name and phone number. Whether or not God chastised him in this life I don't know because I never lived with him.

      I will see him again in heaven when I kick the bucket where he will be utterly void of eternal rewards and the privilege of reigning with Christ, but he will be there because of Jesus and what He did for him.

      1 Corinthians 3:10-15 - 10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.



      11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.



      12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;



      13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.



      14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.



      15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: BUT HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire.
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      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      1 day ago
      I'm so sorry u went thru that. Similar situation w my son's dad

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    3. josh lausch
      "when these things begin to come to pass then lift up your head for your redemption draws nigh"

      Where do we read this?
      In Luke 21:28
      Luke 21:28 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads: for your redemption draweth near.

      To WHO was JESUS speaking? To you and me and the members of the Body of Christ?
      The Body of Christ didn't yet exist when JESUS said that!
      He was addressing His Jewish disciples and His OWN Jewish people.
      The same goes for Matthew 24.
      LEARN to DISCERN what is meant for us and what not:
      Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
      http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html

      Jesus vs Paul - a VERY IMPORTANT message!
      https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/hVEhywxdqhg

      Once Saved Always Saved https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2017/07/once-saved-always-saved.html

      God's Timeline and the Jews http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/05/gods-timeline-and-jews.html

      The Day of Christ vs The Day of the Lord http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/03/the-day-of-christ-vs-day-of-lord.html

      The Kingdom of God vs The Kingdom of Heaven http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2017/09/the-kingdom-of-god-vs-kingdom-of-heaven.html

      Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/5wBxq9LyqHg

      The Plain Truth - Romans through Philemon https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/1gxPAWdzpiJ

      My Blessed Hope - The Rapture https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/4X2kb7JGJkZ

      Satan's Attack on The Mystery Gospel https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2015/07/satans-attack-on-mystery-gospel.html

      Matthew 24 Explained Rightly Divided Proving Pretribulation Rapture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxIUpkLi7Ck

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      josh lausch
      josh lausch
      1 day ago
      I'm find myself growing very weary of the Lords return�� I find myself turning to other things for joy rather then God. All I hear about is the rapture the rapture, and times end times and still another year goes by and were still here! I turn to the world for this joy but always end up disappointed and feeling more empty. What's taking so long!!!???? I'm afraid of being so discouraged that it makes give up and give in. Jesus said " when these things begin to come to pass then lift up your head for your redemption draws nigh". These things have begun to come to pass a while ago and my neck hurts from lifting up my head so much!!
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      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      1 day ago (edited)
      He came to give us life more abundantly now! Grsb onto promises here not just later. I.understand but he wsnts us to occupy and rejoice n build our treasures in heaven now
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    4. javirod281
      1 day ago
      I know what your saying...but what would happen if we didn't lift our heads up when he returns. I feel like as long as we stay in his word and fellowship with him...that is looking up... everyone talking and saying he is returning is hope but we can't rely on their dreams and visions or words from God. We have to rely on God himself!
      God bless you brother... keep looking up.
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      Brendan Stewart
      Brendan Stewart
      15 hours ago
      Don't worry man, you've described word for word the exact situation I'm in. You're definitely not alone in your current circumstances, and I'd imagine that there are many others going through the same. I've also noticed that a lot of watchmen, if not most of them, are also dealing with some form of financial difficulty (as my family is as well). Just to shift the perspective a bit, I find it kind of amazing how similar people's circumstances are in these last days. If anything, it continues to show just how close we really are. And trust me, I know exactly how you're feeling right now, and it SUCKS. Being so on fire with the rapture watching for such a long time, and to get so weary and distracted so suddenly. And once again, I also think this is a major sign of how close we are. People just "all of the sudden" getting really weary from the rapture watching. I'll pray for the Lord to bless us with the strength we need to finish off this extremely long race! ;)

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    1. I AM saved!
      From what? From myself? From an eternal NON-EXISTENCE after death, in which I believed when I was an ATHEIST?

      When JESUS RESCUED me, He made it VERY CLEAR to me that I was going to HELL and that it would last FOR EVER!
      NOT the devil, but JESUS Himself made that clear to me and then He SPOKE to me and He told me 'Hans, there are two things you can do: commit suicide or start reading the Bible'.
      Now suppose JESUS would have told me 'Hans, you may kill yourself and then I will punish you and you'll burn for a while and then you'll be NON-EXISTENT for EVER'.
      Would this have motivated me to receive the FEAR OF GOD, which is the BEGINNING of WISDOM and would I have bought myself a BRAND NEW Bible, because I had NEVER read that book?
      NO! I HATED this STUPID life because I was a believer in the 'BIG BANG' and 'EVOLUTION' and God DID NOT EXIST, and my dad was an atheist and my mom was a non-practicing Catholic who didn't know much from the Bible, and LUCIFER had slipped into my mind due to the music of Black Sabbath and Deep Purple and similar rock bands and I grew up in a time when people said 'God is DEAD'. http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/11/lucifers-globe-earth-lie.html
      I was as CYNICAL as can be: people were merely STUPID ANIMALS or stupid BIOLOGICAL ROBOTS and if there were a creator he was the DEVIL himself playing the role of the good guy in order to DECEIVE. God-devil!
      I grew up during the 'cold war' and the Vietnam war and I was born about 15 years after the end of the 'second world war' and I was SURE a THIRD world war would come, and back then I still believed in the existence of 'nukes', so I was 'sure' this would be the end of everything. http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/01/nuclear-weapons-dont-exist.html
      And from that mindset I lived my life, and it was no wonder I was attracted to PUNK music at the end of the '70s, with its message of NO FUTURE. http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2016/01/song-on-behalf-of-pope-obama-and.html
      But God had not forgotten the CHILD I used to be who believed in JESUS, even though it was only during one school season when I attended a Protestant kindergarten and when our pretty and kind teacher could read so well aloud from the children's Bible, which made me a believer in Him....until the devil stole that faith away due to the fact that the Dutch (original) Santa Claus visited that school and I thought He was God, because he was so impressive, and because he opened the book of the good and bad deeds of the children, which was like the Final Judgement. I was relieved when I belonged to the good children, but after some time I found out that Santa didn't exist and that adults had LIED to me. So I concluded that the stories about God and JESUS were also a LIE and Satan had won this spiritual battle. I grew up without God-JESUS-the Bible and faith in creation and despite this I had a very nice childhood and I was a good student at a public and non-religious elementary school.

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    2. But then I went to a public and non-religious high school and this was during the early '70s of the previous century, which was a time of increasing church abandonment and secularization in my predominantly protestant Dutch country.
      Socialism was on the rise, and socialists are comparable to liberals in the US, and they are ANTI-CHRISTIAN.
      My country was one of the first countries in the world that legalized abortion, euthanasia and gay-marriage and it condoned the use of 'soft' drugs and God became increasingly irrelevant in society. HUMANISM was now the norm and it means that you can do whatever you want as long as you don't bother somebody else, which sounds reasonable.
      But God-the Lord JESUS was left out of the equation., and frankly, I didn't CARE. Who needs God if all goes well?
      But everything didn't go well, and that is too extensive a story, but in short I knew that something was MISSING in my life, but I didn't know WHAT.
      Due to my BELIEF in 'evolution' and the 'Big Bang' I had become an atheist=God denier, but in the late '70s I discovered that 'scientists' had used FRAUD in order to prove the 'missing link' between humans and apes.
      I discovered it thanks to a Dutch evangelical TV broadcaster that broadcasted programs about evolution vs creation, with in it creationist scientists from the US and Britain, and one of them them was the former atheist professor Arthur Ernest Wilder-Smith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._E._Wilder-Smith
      How was it possible that such an intelligent person could believe in 'madness' like 'creation' and 'God-Jesus-the Bible'?
      This intrigued me enormously, but still I concluded that all believers in God-creation-the Bible are insane.
      The reason is simple because I was still an unsaved SINNER and unsaved sinners are pawns of Satan, and Satan does everything to keep sinners away from the truth.
      To avoid making this comment too long I refer to my testimony on my site: JESUS is my BEST FRIEND! What about you? http://xembryo.blogspot.com/2014/09/jesus-is-my-best-friend-what-about-you.html

      What's my point?
      If annihililationsim is true then I'm saved from NOTHING! https://www.gotquestions.org/annihilationism.html
      When the assassin of the leader of the Dutch revolt against the Spanish occupation of the Netherlands on behalf of the Vatican, was executed, he was LAUGHING until he was DEAD!
      This man was SO SATANIC that even the worst kind of TORTURE meant NOTHING to him! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balthasar_G%C3%A9rard
      But would he have LAUGHED if this TORTURE would last FOR EVER?
      Now I don't say this kind of punishment is acceptable, but this was during a different time than ours.....but still: the CIA is still torturing people...
      And this brings me to the role of the USA from a prophetic viewpoint: yes, the US is NOT 'Mystery Babylon', but it is PART of it!
      Washington D.C.'s original name was Rome, Maryland http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2014/09/washington-dcs-original-name-was-rome.html
      The Founding Fathers: a bunch of SATANISTS on behalf of the VATICAN http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-founding-fathers-bunch-of-satanists.html
      The Founding Fathers of America: All opposed to the Gospel of Jesus Christ! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-founding-fathers-of-america-all.html
      The Second beast of Revelation 13 - The United States http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-second-beast-of-revelation-13.html
      THE STATUE OF LIBERTY is Lucifer http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2011/05/statue-of-liberty-is-lucifer.html

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    3. @Renee Roland The 2nd death simply means the eternal separation from God and His love.
      You believe that SOULS of condemned sinners will CEASE to exist, and i can give you an example of 2 REAL humans who will experience eternal torture FOR EVER: the Antichrist and the False Prophet:
      Revelation 19:20 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      20 But the beast was taken, and with him that false Prophet that wrought miracles before him, whereby he deceived them that received the beast’s mark, and them that worshipped his image. These both were alive cast into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

      Revelation 20:10 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      10 And the devil that deceived them, was cast into a lake of fire and brimstone, where that beast and that false prophet ARE, and shall be tormented even day and night for evermore.

      Now how is this possible if you are right?
      They are genuine people with a physical body of flesh and blood and they will BE the FIRST two condemned who will be cast into the lake of fire, because this place is currently EMPTY.

      All people are meant to be LIKE the ANGELS

      Matthew 22:30
      For in the resurrection they neither marry wives, nor wives are bestowed in marriage, but are as the Angels of God in heaven.

      and that's the whole purpose of our existence, because it's about a SPIRITUAL WAR about our SOULS and where will we spend eternity? In heaven and on the new earth with JESUS or in the lake of fire with those three aforementioned IDIOTS?

      And it's also about Satan's ACCUSATION that FREE will DOESN'T EXIST!
      Well, this IDIOT knows very well that free will exists, but he decided to forfeit his privileged position with God, being the highest angel, by rebelling against God's authority.
      A sickly jealous morning star http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/09/a-sickly-jealous-morning-star.html

      Matthew 25:34-46 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      34 Then shall the king say to them on his right hand, Come ye blessed of my father: take the inheritance of the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

      35 For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I thirsted, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in unto you.

      36 I was naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

      37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or athirst, and gave thee drink?

      38 And when saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in unto us? or naked, and clothed thee?

      39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

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    4. 40 And the king shall answer, and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it to me.

      41 Then shall he say to them on the left hand, Depart from me ye cursed, into everlasting fire, which is prepared for the devil and his angels.

      42 For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I thirsted, and ye gave me no drink:

      43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in unto you: I was naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

      44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

      45 Then shall he answer them, and say, Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

      46 And these shall go into everlasting pain, and the righteous into life eternal.

      We will simply FORGET about the existence of the condemned after the Final Judgement because then we'll have much better things to do than worrying about them, because then we'll be HAPPY FOREVER during the eternal wedding feast of our Savior and Lord JESUS Christ when He's marrying His bride.

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      Renee Roland
      21 minutes ago (edited)
      We r saved from the 2nd death. Bible tells us we will perish n God destroys both body and soul in hell. We r not immortal without Jesus giving us eternal life. Destroyed by eternal fire will be horrific. Being without love of Christ is horrific. But i love your testimony. Bible says hell itself is cast into the lake of fire after his millenial reign.

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    5. @Steve M This is what I believe: God is GOOD and everything He has made is GOOD, so also the eternal lake of fire is GOOD, because it serves a PURPOSE: it's God's TRASH CAN and His eternal detention center for reprobate entities.

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      Steve M
      Steve M
      52 minutes ago
      @Renee Roland Same question I ask you...and of course feel free to keep the answer to yourself because it's something between you & Jesus.
      "If".... rejecting Jesus Christ were really to send the rejector to Hell to be tormented night and day forever and ever....if this were to be really true, would you still receive this Jesus ...or Reject Him?

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    6. @@Steve M
      Steve M said: 'Hans S I can't make anyone believe that Hell is Eternal
      and the only reason I believe is because the Holy Spirit revealed it to me...in full measure! I am now a believer by the Grace of God. That H...'
      40 minutes ago
      Why did you delete this comment, Steve, because I agree with you and more importantly I agree with God-the Lord JESUS, who is also the Holy Spirit?
      I believe that BEFORE God created anything He thought about the problem that could arise if one or more of His intelligent creatures with a free will would rebel against Him, and He knew that once an intelligent creature would exist, He could never erase that PERSON out of existence, because all intelligent creatures with a free will are in the first place SPIRITUAL BEINGS.
      So He came up with a SOLUTION: of course His obedient intelligent creations would enjoy His presence in eternity, but His disobedient intelligent creations, like Satan=adversary and the other fallen angels, would have to go to a place of eternal DETENTION and PAIN in order to FORCE them into SUBMISSION.
      After the creation of PEOPLE/HUMANS He also determined this place for sinners=transgressors of His commandments, and He provided a WAY OUT for HUMAN sinners by becoming a SINLESS human Himself in the capacity of JESUS Christ, and the rest of His SALVATION PLAN (GRACE through FAITH in what JESUS has done for us: the shedding of His BLOOD for the remission of our sins) is known to you, PRAISE JESUS!
      In case you want to talk to me, you can go to this page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrQt7f9DU2To5kdlSC1YQWg/community
      Hans S
      Hans S
      10 minutes ago
      ​@UFCNUTTA YES! Because JESUS talked to me as if I were in heaven and with the sweetest voice I've ever heard.
      But moments before that I was on my way to hell, and I'd wish ALL people would receive such an experience, because it was WORSE than the WORST NIGHTMARE and an awareness of TOTAL DESPERATION and GODFORSAKENNESS and I knew I was totally LOST by my OWN FAULT and I had ran out of excuses.
      I didn't ask for it, just like Saul, when he was on his way to Damascus to get more Jewish believers in JESUS arrested and killed.
      I've always compared my experience with his, with the difference that I didn't see Him, but I immediately knew THIS IS GOD!
      The crazy thing is that I was so STUBBORN that He had to give me this SHOCK THERAPY twice: at the end of 1980 and on January 15, 1984.
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      Hans S
      4 minutes ago
      @Steve M What's happening to your comments, Steve?
      This is the second time I see part of your comment when I click on the notification bell, and when I go to this thread your comment is GONE!
      This is part of your comment:

      Steve M said: 'Hans S Another possible reason some don't want to believe that Hell is Everlasting....it would reveal who they really are or were prior to the Saving Grace of Jesus Christ. How many times have we r...'
      11 minutes ago
      Can you please repeat what you said? Thanks.

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      UFCNUTTA
      UFCNUTTA
      43 minutes ago
      @Hans S Brother if I may ask, was you saved when Jesus said you have two options , suicide or start reading the bible?

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    7. @UFCNUTTA Just share everything with JESUS, because he knows us better than we know ourselves and make Him your BEST friend and tell Him EVERY little detail, and especially the things you don't want or dare to share with people, because He understands everything.
      It's not a sin to think about suicide, but just don't do it, because when everything SEEMS to be useless, committing suicide is useless too.
      Let it pass by and focus on our BRIGHT future and our BLESSED Hope, which is the rapture and the redemption of our mortal bodies.
      Check this out: OUR BLESSED HOPE, the RAPTURE https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/HwZuYVFm9Ag
      Tell somebody about JESUS=I AM SALVATION and this is the best we can do and pray for lost people that JESUS will save them.
      We cannot save anyone, including ourselves, but JESUS can!
      He wants us to be HAPPY!
      Satan wants us to be SAD.
      He's allowed to do so, whenever we sin again, but then confess (talk it over) everything to JESUS and say 'I'm sorry and help me not to sin again' and He sees our hearts and if we're sincere He restores the relationship, because He's our FATHER, MOTHER, BROTHER and SISTER too! Listen to this song and sing along:
      Mike Farris "Thank You Jesus" Mike Farris "Thank You Jesus" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hggt21iE5pM

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      UFCNUTTA
      UFCNUTTA
      25 minutes ago
      @Hans S I'm so glad you're alive brother , I have suicidal ideation daily but I'm battling and I'm breathing.

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    8. @Renee Roland Our God is a God of justice and also a God of logic.
      All intelligent creations with a free will are in the first place spiritual beings, like angels and humans.
      Even God can't make them disappear.
      He thought about it before He created anything and He came up with a solution to deal with rebellious spirits He doesn't want in His realm, and so He created the supernatural lake of fire, which is also the final separation from Him, called the Second Death.
      He also created death, which is a separational force between Him and what He has cursed Himself, due to the rebellion of Eve and Adam, in that sequence.
      When death will no longer be needed He'll cast it into HIS lake of fire, which also functions as His trash can.

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      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      31 minutes ago
      @Hans S it says they perish. Where does it say man is immortal? Nowhere it says God is only immortal. God tells angels they shall die like men in the old test. U r welcome to believe God tortires ppl forever but after much study i found bible doesnt say that. Hell itself is cast into the lake of fire. Either way its aweful n Jesus saved us from it. Its y i dont discuss my viewes on hell bc the catholic doctrine of eternal torture n man being immortal is common. I give grace on this area

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