Wednesday, October 10, 2018

Flat Earth v Round Earth is a SATANIC DISTRACTION?

Flat Earth v Round Earth is a SATANIC DISTRACTION

Published on Dec 29, 2016

How this is a distraction to cause division in the church and divert us from our true purpose as the Body of Christ.




Renee and other Bible believing globe earthers,

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There are people who want to commit suicide when they 'realize' (through brainwashing by the school system and 'science') that they're living on an insignificant particle, called 'earth', in a vast expanding 'universe' containing BILLIONS of GALAXIES, yet you believe God=JESUS really created this globe earth NONSENSE..
But let me try to see it from your perspective:
You believe God=JESUS created the earth as a SPINNING BALL, in an EMPTY 'universe', THREE DAYS before He created the sun, the moon, the stars and the planets, and subsequently He could hardly find the TINY earth back again in this insanely HUGE 'universe, containing GAZILLIONS of 'galaxies', 'suns' (stars) and 'moons', planets and comets and other stuff that's floating around in this crazy and endless 'universe', not to mention exploding and imploding stars and so called black holes and other weird phenomena...


I believed in this MADNESS most of my life and also after JESUS saved me, before I first became an adherent of the stationary earth truth (the geocentric model) back in 2013 and subsequently I became a flat earth adherent on October 1, 2016.
But I already believed that the manned moon landings were FAKE and that 'satellites' don't exist and MUCH more, so I didn't become a flat earther out of the blue.
MANY flat earthers have a similar background and they all used to believe in the globe earth deception.
Now try to see it from my perspective:
I believe in the beginning, God=JESUS created a DARK and EMPTY, ROUND AND FLAT Earth, SURROUNDED by WATER.
Genesis 1:3 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)


3 Then God said, Let there be light: And there was light.

God=JESUS had not yet created the sun, the moon and the stars, so this LIGHT emanated from HIMSELF and of course this was a SUPERNATURAL LIGHT.
Genesis 1:4-5 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)


4 And God saw the light that it was good, and God separated the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the Light, Day, and the darkness he called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

The BIBLE (not me) makes it clear that BEFORE the sun and the moon and the stars existed there was already a difference between DARKNESS and LIGHT, NIGHT and DAY!
If we want to take the Bible seriously and God-the Lord JESUS too, because JESUS is the CREATOR and the WORD of GOD, we must base our interpretation of what happened during creation on what HE says and not on what SINNERS (and in many cases people who are against the Bible) assert who call themselves 'scientists'.


Let's see what happened next, ACCORDING to
Genesis 1:6-8 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)


6 Again God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.

7 Then God made the firmament, and separated the waters, which were under the firmament, from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament, Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.

So here we read about the creation of HEAVEN: the FIRMAMENT! 'Heaven' in this context is the blue sky we see by day and the starry sky we see by night.

We DON'T read about the creation of an EMPTY so called 'universe', and keep in mind that the sun, the moon and the stars and the planets (wandering, luminous objects in the firmament) did NOT yet exist!

And what did God=JESUS create on the SECOND DAY of creation?
He SEPARATED the WATERS, which were above and around the FIRMAMENT or DOME, from the WATERS which were under the firmament and He created in fact a GIANT AIR BUBBLE (containing a lot of carbon dioxide), as if the earth plus air had become a HUGE stationary SUBMARINE within a VAST SPACE containing WATER!


Let's see what happened next according to
Genesis 1:9-13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)


9 God said again, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land, Earth, and he called the gathering together of the waters, Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, Let the earth bud forth the bud of the herb, that seedeth seed, the fruitful tree, which beareth fruit according to his kind, which hath his seed in itself upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth the bud of the herb, that seedeth seed according to his kind, also the tree that beareth fruit, which hath his seed in itself according to his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 So the evening and the morning were the third day.

Here we read about the creation of the SINGLE, HUGE continent (dry land) which existed before the Flood, and mind you that COLD and ICE and SNOW didn't yet exist on earth, so there wasn't yet an ICE WALL surrounding the earth, and the FIRMAMENT, shaped as a DOME, kept and is still keeping the waters surrounding the dry land WITHIN the FLAT EARTH system, and it's also keeping the waters that surround this system OUT.

We also read about the creation of vegetation, which produces OXYGEN, which is essential for animal and human life.

Again, all this happened BEFORE the creation of the sun, the moon, the stars and the planets and we can find the word 'planets' in the Bible: https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=planets&qs_version=GNV

I believe that during and after the Flood the one huge continent started to divide into several continents and islands and some of the land masses ended up at the EDGE of the round and flat earth system, restrained by the dome or the firmament and covered with ICE and SNOW, which we call Antarctica, because COLD and ICE and SNOW were for the FIRST TIME introduced within this system:
Genesis 8:22 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)


22 Hereafter seed time and harvest, and cold and heat, and Summer and Winter, and day and night shall not cease, so long as the earth remaineth.

This can be explained by the following: BIBLICAL flat earth adherents believe that before the Flood the sun and the moon circled CLOCKWISE in a stable and unchangeable circle ABOVE the flat and ROUND earth and this ONE huge continent.

During and after the Flood this changed and now the sun and the moon circle above the flat and round earth in varying sizes of circles, depending on the seasons, around the so called 'North Pole' being in fact the center of the flat earth system, so it's in fact the CENTER pole.

Now my question is, to you and fellow globe earth, solar system, universe-adherents who are SAVED and who believe the Bible is the WORD of GOD and that our creator is JESUS: did God create the earth and the universe and everything within it through the so called BIG BANG, which is a concept that was concocted by a JESUIT (Jesuit Priest Georges Lemaître Invented The Big Bang Theory - LIE http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2016/06/jesuit-priest-georges-lemaitre-invented.html ), or do you BELIEVE what the Bible actually says?
I'm not condemning you, because I've been a deceived globe earther myself, but asserting that the flat earth TRUTH, which is supported by the Bible, is 'taking away God's glory' is a very UNWISE thing to say.
I hope I made myself clear, being a Dutchman who's trying to talk English.


Peace and grace in our Saviour JESUS!



Renee believes in The INSANITY called ANNIHILATIONISM







 

30 comments:

  1. An example of the nonsense (Mary) Renee likes to watch, and I believe it has a lot to do with her 10 years old son, James/Jim who's already brainwashed by the school system: How Far Are The Nearest Stars?

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    1. +Jaffa Hank In fact I know God and Satan exist.
      satan simply means adversary, btw.


      In that sense JESUS is the satan of Satan.

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      Jaffa Hank
      +Hans S is that all it takes for you to believe?

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    2. +Jaffa Hank That's illogical, because even when I was an atheist=deity denier I knew that JESUS Christ existed as a historical figure.

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      Jaffa Hank
      +Hans S i know that, its not real, god and jesus and satan dont exist

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    3. +Jaffa Hank Do you know why you have a body and a head and a brain?
      I know: This is the REAL YOU and Satan HATES it! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2016/05/this-is-real-you-and-satan-hates-it.html

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      Jaffa Hank
      +Hans S so does Beowulf, so does Herucles
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      +Hans S king Arthur and Merlin? do you believe in them?

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    4. +Phuc Bug That's what I thought too when I was an atheist.
      Can you show me just one genuine undoctered photo from space of the earth as a globe?
      So not faked photos like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zDqP6dFnrMw/maxresdefault.jpg
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      Phuc Bug
      +Hans S is that how it works? do you have a photo of god?
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      Hans S
      +1
      +Jaffa Hank Of His earthly face, during His resurrection from the dead: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/07/i-was-dead-and-behold-i-am-alive-for.html

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      Phuc Bug
      +Hans S i have a brain, head and body, because we evolved that

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    5. +Jaffa Hank Of His earthly face, during His resurrection from the dead: https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/07/i-was-dead-and-behold-i-am-alive-for.html

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      Jaffa Hank
      +Hans S is that how it works? do you have a photo of god?

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    1. I became a flat earther on October 1, 2016, about three years after I became an adherent of the geo-centric model, and a friend of mine and a fellow believer in our Lord JESUS Christ became a flat earther after I told her that water is always level.

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  4. @Jacob Graves
    So you believe that THREE DAYS after the creation of the earth God gave the earth a spin
    , while the difference between day and night, light and darkness already existed BEFORE God created the sun and the moon and the stars, and you believe He made the earth revolve around the HUGE sun, which didn't even exist when God started creation?

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    Bethany M.
    3 days ago
    Renee it's ok if we don't agree on flat Earth isn't it?!I believe the Earth is round. I sometimes feel that I don't have a right to my beliefs because they push it on to you. I do believe in eternal security and find it as the most important because Christ died for our sins.
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    Hans S
    Hans S
    1 day ago (edited)
    Bethany M.
    I accept you as my SAVED sister in JESUS if you believe we're living on a spinning ball, because you believe we're saved by Grace through faith in what JESUS has done for us and in His undeserved gift of eternal security.
    JESUS saved me before I became a flat earth believer, so this proves that the flat earth/globe earth issue has nothing to do with salvation.
    Still I encourage you to investigate because I don't believe in the globe earth concept anymore since October 1, 2016 when I was 56, and most of my life I believed we're living on a spinning ball, revolving around the sun, though I had already become an adherent of the geocentric model in 2013.
    Just contemplate this:
    God-the Lord JESUS created the sun and the moon and the stars and the planets THREE DAYS after He had created the earth.
    Now you believe that THREE DAYS after the creation of the earth God gave the earth a spin, while the difference between day and night, light and darkness already existed BEFORE God created the sun and the moon and the stars, and you believe He made the earth revolve around the sun, which didn't even exist when God started creation.
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    Jacob Graves
    Jacob Graves
    27 minutes ago
    Doesnt matter yet ..now .. .. when we are raptured .. id say Jesus will show us soon about the Earth. 🙂 So at this point id say its no big deal.

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    1. Yes, I know you don't agree with me, Renee, but I'm so glad I don't believe in the globe earth anymore and in the 'universe' and the 'solar system' and in 'galaxies' since God showed me the flat earth truth on October 1, 2016.
      You don't realize how OCCULT the globe earth LIE is, because it was invented by Satan himself and also through his minions, the Jesuits and associated 'scientists'. Heliocentrism is SATANISM on behalf of the VATICAN! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2017/08/heliocentrism-is-satanism.html
      And what happened? I was attacked by a 'Christian' female with Catholic tendencies who I believe is a witch, and she calls me a Satanist because I believe in the flat earth, and she praises NASA which was founded by (German) ROMAN CATHOLIC Nazis like the late Werner von Braun.
      Many German Nazis went to the US after the 'second world war' with the aid of the Vatican, which is the disguised Roman Empire, and Satan's headquarters on earth.
      The other German Nazis went to the former Soviet Union with its former leader the JESUIT PRIEST Joseph 'Stalin' and that's why the Russians are complicit in the globe earth lie and in the 'space exploration' and universe lies, and communism was invented by the Jesuits and fascism too. China is still a communist country and its also complicit in this DELUSION.
      The CATHOLIC former president Reagan said that an 'alien invasion' from 'outer space' would UNITE the world.
      That's exactly what the Vatican wants to accomplish!
      The True History and Purpose of NASA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzTA-0tJnFQ
      When I was an atheist I loved to watch the original TV series Star Trek which was produced by a Satanist, which I know since several years: STAR TREK, GENE RODDENBERRY and the COUNCIL OF NINE by Brian Moonan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YumrF9dv5vE
      And I loved to watch the programs made by the late Carl Sagan, like 'Cosmos', and now I know they were also very occult.
      'Aliens' are simply fallen angels.
      They know they can't get out of the flat earth system with a firmament, so they came up with the UNIVERSE and 'OUTER SPACE' lies, because they want to escape God's coming WRATH, which is impossible of course.

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    2. Kenzie Smith
      Forced to go to Catholic Church? That's terrible! The Roman Catholic church is the true church of Satan!

      The Pope is NIMROD from Babylon and he's the ANTICHRIST by default, and 'mary' is SEMIRAMIS from Babylon and 'jesus' is TAMMUZ from Babylon!
      Don't go to that HELL HOLE! Mystery Babylon The Great - The Truth About The Roman Catholic SEMIRAMIS='mary' CULT http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2016/08/mystery-babylon-great-truth-about-roman.html
      Watch this great video with the right GRACE gospel: Why I am NOT a Catholic! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F8ZRfUpcJU
      Visit this site: Ex-Catholics For Christ - Spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ! http://www.excatholicsforchrist.com/

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      Kenzie Smith
      Kenzie Smith
      17 minutes ago
      Yo so when I’m forced to go to Catholic Church with my family every Sunday, every time we are suppose to pray to a saint, I SHUT my mouth. I might say the prayers or whatever just to fit in... but anytime it mentions praying to a saint, I don’t say it. And the whole time my mouth is shut, I can FEEL the priest and the bishop stare into my soul. I just smirk back lmao they’re pathetic. It cracks me up just thinking about it 😂😂

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    3. @Kenzie Smith I pray for you: Dear Father, protect your child Kenzie against the false teachings and influences of the satanic Roman Catholic CULT, in the name of JESUS Christ, amen!

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      Prayer Warrior 777
      Prayer Warrior 777
      1 hour ago
      Kenzie Smith I'm assuming you are under 18 if you are forced to go to catholic mass with your family. They cannot make you pray what you don't want to. God bless you.
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      Kenzie Smith
      Kenzie Smith
      1 hour ago
      Hans S oh trust me I know it’s evil. They can take me there but the can’t force me to believe it!
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      Kenzie Smith
      Kenzie Smith
      50 minutes ago
      Prayer Warrior 777 yep you guessed it! They don’t seem to understand that they can take me to a Catholic Church... but it doesn’t make me Catholic...

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    4. @Mary Miller Great testimony Mary! Our Savior JESUS is with us!

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      Kenzie Smith
      Kenzie Smith
      13 hours ago
      Hans S AMEN!!
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      Kathy Pileggi
      Kathy Pileggi
      3 hours ago
      Kenzie Smith ..praying for you Kenzie. I know. I was a C...don’t even want to spell the word ...I pray for all C’s it’s not C bashing ...it’s the
      Institution...stay strong, your father in Heaven sees and knows your situation.
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      Kathy Pileggi
      Kathy Pileggi
      2 hours ago
      Kenzie Smith ...have to share this one......a few years ago my husband and I went to visit his son, wife and grandchildren in Washington D.C ..it was Christmas...we went to the National Cathedral..very beautiful..really ornate..as we walked in..there was that familiar smell..I call it the catholic smell ..candles, incense...then there was a huge bookstore full of life sized saint statues 😱.. then .....the mass .....I call it ...the black mass ...oh my.....most of the time my eyes were shut ...couldn’t watch it..well of course the statues were everywhere and Mary over powered Jesus 😡. At the end, when everyone was leaving, there was a couple behind me, and one of them said,” boy, was that a circus “ ...I was walking with the grandchildren and they all wanted to light candles and pray 🙈...boy, I wanted so bad to turn around and say something to them, like 👍but all my family are strong Catholics...
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      Mary Miller
      Mary Miller
      1 hour ago
      @Kathy Pileggi Oh wow! my dear sister...I remember that smell very well...they clean the outside of the cup and plate...but inside are full of dead man's bones. Prayers for you and all your family lost in dead religion.
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      Mary Miller
      Mary Miller
      52 minutes ago
      Prayers for you dear sister Kenzie. It's tough having to sit and pretend with them. My mother constantly begs me to go with her to her baptist church up the street. I've just had to tell her again and again that I don't believe the way they do, she doesn't understand and won't listen to what I think is different. Ironically, she is Catholic at heart, she is native Italian, but has been in this country so long, she switched to baptist, cause that's mostly all around us here in the South... It's the same thing, boring dead religion is all it is...we know the TRUTH in our hearts and are FREE from all their dogmas and laws. Jesus sets our hearts free by simply trusting in His finished work on the cross. I feel so broken that all my family members want is the worthless rituals they do at their churches...when they can have the JOY of knowing they are forever sealed with Jesus and He will never cast us aside. God bless you dear sister. I will pray God give you strength until you are able to get on your own and worship where you prefer.

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    5. @Kathy Pileggi ,” boy, was that a circus “ Please read this: The word CHURCH derives from the word CIRCLE or CIRCUS! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-word-church-derives-from-word.html
      The right word for 'church' should be assembly or congregation: https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?qs_version=WEB&quicksearch=Assembly&startnumber=145

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    6. @ed _____ Amen.

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      Kathy Pileggi
      Kathy Pileggi
      49 minutes ago
      Mary Miller ..oh, just remembered this one ... I went to catholic school and went to mass every day so at that time in the 60’s We knew the mass in Latin ...and to this day....I remember at the communion them wiping the inside if the chalice with a towel....well when I brush my teeth, I wipe out the cup before I put it away ...and every time I do that it brings back what was done 😱...so you too remember that “ sent” ..it is unique to them ..blessings to you sister ...OUR FATHER sustains us in these days
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      ed _____
      ed _____
      19 minutes ago
      Dear Kenzie,
      I am former Catholic and in fact I am relocating from Ontario next year back home to Europe. My whole family knows I am born again Christians and I told them I can't be attending RC church with my parents because that would give them false message is for their own good I cut all ties from church of satan.
      I know you want good but in reality you are just confusing them by still attending the RC church. Surely you have free will but bear in mind we can do anything we want but not everything is PROFITABLE.
      bleessings

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  6. @Renee Roland That's what you say, but to me the opposite is true. I'm so glad I no longer believe in that weird concept called 'universe'. You believe that on the fourth day of creation, and when the earth already existed for three days and when there was already day and night and light and darkness, God created the sun and the moon and the stars en He made the earth subordinate to it as a tiny spinning particle hurtling through 'space'.
    When I read Genesis I see another story, apart from the fact that water can't curve around a ball and that water always seeks its own level, which is flat.

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    John Hind
    John Hind
    20 hours ago (edited)
    Hi Renee , sweet sister , in bed now as I have been listening to your wonderful messages of assurance and God's grace ; knowing am heaven bound and having the option of exploring the stars and planets in the heavens , the orion nebula , the pleiades and many more wonders in the heavens ; I can sleep peacefully come what may. I wonder whether the blue white super giant star in the constellation of orion Rigel , the name of yours and Jim's beloved new kitten has any earth like planets orbiting it. To sum it up your videos are always a blessing to me and always look forward to your next ones. I always love your responses , cheers and many thanks. I pray you will have a good night's sleep and sweet dreams and wake up feeling refreshed.

    God bless you and your ministry and restore you to full health and strength ,

    Your friend and brother in the Lord Jesus Christ , as always , agape love xo ,

    John.
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    Renee Roland
    Renee Roland
    5 hours ago (edited)
    God's mysteries r breathtaking. Flat earth takes the joy of God's creation...the heavens and his glorious universe. I love how u worded that

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  7. @Bethany M.
    I was SAVED FOREVER by God's undeserved gift of grace through faith in the forgiving blood of JESUS
    when I was a globe earther and after I became a flat earther. I have no conflict with Hans the globe earther, because I understand why he believed in that concept, because he didn't yet know what Hans the flat earther knows.

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    Bethany M.
    Bethany M.
    59 minutes ago (edited)
    I'm glad you only talk about salvational doctrine and not about the unimportant doctrine because disagreements on flat Earth and creation will only further us apart. Salvation and love is the only thing that will bring us together
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    Renee Roland
    Renee Roland
    1 hour ago
    IF they have the RIGHT JESUS AND RIGHT GOSPEL..THEY ARE MY FAMILY AND CHRIST. Christians are SO dogmatic and think they are ALWAYS right on ALL doctrines and if you disagree they break fellowship but we are ALL GROWING IN GRACE AND IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR LORD Jesus Christ yet they show no grace for this process. Satan LOVES that dogmatic closed eared shut eyed thinking bc we are powerful when together. I give liberty on nonessentials and MOST won't even listen to WHY we might believe something different to even understand our stance..they just condemn. Its sad and they stand on all tradition and lose their minds if its threatened

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    1. @Renee Roland I agree with myself, so that's okay ;)

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      Renee Roland
      18 minutes ago
      @Hans S ive heard all evidence for 2 years n remain sphere earth. We agree to disagree

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    2. @loonypics Yes, we know that, but try to explain that to globe earthers who think the flat and stationary earth is nonsense.
      I tried to explain it from the Bible but even that doesn't work: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/10/flat-earth-v-round-earth-is-satanic.html#more

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      loonypics
      loonypics
      32 minutes ago
      Hans : I know something for certain the Earth does NOT spin OR revolve around the sun period !.

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    3. @loonypics Yes, we know that, but even saved believers don't believe that.
      They don't realize that the Vatican is behind ALL evil, because it's Satan's headquarters.
      When the Vatican was so called against the globe earth, centuries ago, they knew the earth is flat, but the Vatican was in fact behind the globe earth lie, and when flat earthers proclaim this truth in our time, the Vatican says the earth is a globe and that flat earthers are insane.
      Satan can only LIE!
      All Freemasons obey the Vatican: The Satanic Power Tree http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/04/the-satanic-power-tree.html
      I know the testimony of a former atheist who was close to suicide who started to investigate the flat earth, because he said he had nothing to lose.
      The result was that he became convinced of the flat earth reality!
      Of course this didn't turn him into a saved man, but then He started to realize that this flat earth system had to be created by an intelligent being and to cut things short: He started to read the Bible and He got saved.
      I also know an ATHEIST who believes in the flat earth and he says that it's due to 'mother nature'...
      Some people simply do NOT WANT TO believe in God-the Lord JESUS!
      I believe ALL people that lived before the Flood knew the earth is flat...it didn't get them saved, even though it's the truth.
      I'm glad there are saved gospel of grace brothers and sisters who believe in the flat earth truth!
      God-our Saviour JESUS is with us on His flat and round earth with a firmament, surrounded by water!
      https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2018/07/gods-footstool-is-flat-earth-globe.html

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      loonypics
      loonypics
      1 day ago
      Hans S : Yep It's a bit like sharing the Gospel with an atheist. They have to accept that there is a creator God FIRST. While the same person easily swallows the indoctrination BS that teaches we live on a spinning ball you wont stand a chance. That just cant see that what they have been taught is based on pagan sun god worship, Copernicus was a mason, so was Newton and many other teachers of science so called !

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  8. @Renee Roland and what about the word VAULT?

    Amos 9:6 Amos 9:6 World English Bible (WEB)
    It is he who builds his rooms in the heavens, and has founded his vault on the earth; he who calls for the waters of the sea, and pours them out on the surface of the earth; Yahweh is his name.

    Translations of vault
    noun
    vault, arch, vaulting, roof
    bow, arc, arch, archway, vault, camber

    Sounds like a DOME.... ;)

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    Renee Roland
    Renee Roland
    30 minutes ago
    @Hans S firmament is just surrounding atmosphere so round or flat earth would both have that

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    1. And Renee Roland believes in Lucifer's Globe Earth...

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