zaterdag 12 mei 2012

YEAH, let's CRUCIFY the BASTARD!

Hanss on said:
 
>>>I think the character and ideals of Jesus are mostly pretty great, Too bad God could not be more like Jesus. The Bible shows Jesus’s kindness, acceptance, humbleness- but God as pretty much the exact opposite. (IF God=Jesus, then Godjesus has a split personality disorder- just another one of hundreds of reasons I question the veracity of the claims of religion)<<<

Allright Cris, here's something for you to think about and it's from Ann Barnhardt, who really loves Jesus, but who paradoxically feels connected with the (pernicious) Roman Catholic Church*, but apart from that she's intelligent and she has written a very good article about this theme with which I agree, because I wrote something similar in Dutch on my site, before I read her piece: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2011/11/god-evil.html

* http://one-evil.org/acts_holocaust/acts_vatican_holocaust.htm
  • I did read that article, but like everything revolving around religious claims- there always seems to be a smoke and mirrors element.

    “Think about it. If God just started snuffing beings out of existence when they made a choice that wasn’t in accord with His will, wouldn’t that cheapen all life and existence to the point of meaninglessness? ”

    Think about it. This only works if God DOESN”T KNOW what will happen. The Bible is full of stories of God being “surprised” or “angered” when something UNEXPECTED happened. Yet, on the “mirror side” there are also repeated claims of God’s omniscience and omnipresence.

    To put this on a human scale- If I knew that tomorrow a guy would walk by my house and throw a rock through the front window, would I then wait for tomorrow, sit around and do nothing, then suddenly get “surprised” and “angered” when the guy threw the rock?

    I knew it was going to happen, even if I didn’t want to intervene (the excuse made for God) I certainly would not be surprised or angered.
    “In other words, the Heisenberg Timelines are the timelines that WOULD have happened IF we had made a different choice. ”
    This still solves nothing, as an omniscient God would be aware of every single possible outcome of every timeline. This just adds unnecessary complication to the original premise.

    In the end, omniscience is a trap by definition. If God knows everything, then he cannot change anything- if he does something that he didn’t know he would be doing in the first place, then he wasn’t omniscient in the first place.
    If he KNEW that he would change something, then it wouldn’t be a CHANGE, because that is what he KNEW he was going to do in the first place.
    True omniscience would be a prison to any being that had it.

    • Exactly. Which just means that god created millions of people TO GO TO HELL. He knew they wouldn’t choose him and created them anyway. What kind of monster is this god???











>>What kind of monster is this god???<<
 
'YEAH, let's CRUCIFY the BASTARD!!'*

*of course this is meant to be sarcastic


'Christ remains in waiting
Christ has paid the toll

He died for you, He broke the chains
Unlocked the prison doors

Why do you choose to run from Him?
There's nowhere else to go

The sinless Priest, the awesome King
I think you probably know

SO!

Go ahead, suit yourself
Forget the truth
Do it on you own
Your time is just wasting'

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