Monday, June 6, 2016

People who believe in the post-tribulation-rapture are like CATHOLICS!

#ChristianRant The pre-tribulation rapture is a false doctrine.. I understand many people will disagree, but I don't put my trust in Hollywood movies.. I trust the word of God. I'm tired of this lukewarm, western christianity. We can still purchase bibles over here. We do not have to congregate in secret, underground churches over here. We are not being thrown in jail or put to death for being christians over here in America... Meanwhile, there are christians who are being martyred in the middle-east. They were not raptured up out of here. Why do western christians think they are better than eastern christians? There are martyrs in the Bible and many martyrs throughout history that were not raptured. We christians have to come to grips with the fact that the rapture happens AFTER the great tribulation (Matthew 24.29-40)... and the great tribulation is NOT God's wrath! To assume we will be special enough to be raptured up out of here before suffering any type of real persecution is just absurd.

John 15.20

"Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his Lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also."

Revelation 2.10

"Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life."

Matthew 24.9

"Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake."

Mark 13.13

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Constantly pray for the Lord's wisdom, discernment, courage and strength to dwell in you, brothers and sisters..

May God bless the tribulation saints! šŸ˜Š

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Benjamin Brown
5:31 AM
You have a very good point and yes, many act as if they won't have to go through anything, which is false and Jesus has not appointed us to wrath, but you must take into account the church (Body of Christ) is not mentioned during the time of tribulation, truth being told we are not guaranteed to miss any of the really bad stuff , and yes the Scripture does say after the tribulation of those days.
Many can't seem to agree when we will be caught up, so we must keep a watch for when The Lord of Glory will appear.
One thing to keep in mind is who was Jesus talking to in those passages, what was their condition as far as knowing Jesus to be the Christ and are the passages you posted speaking to us the, body of Christ?

Very good, what you have posted, now I want to see what others have to say about this, because one thing for sure is we cant say that the Scripture does not say what it has said.

Hans S
6:15 AM
+Benjamin Brown  +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
No, this #ChristianRant is a whole lot of NONSENSE and based on the WRONG GOSPEL.

Another issue is the term 'CHRISTIAN'.

MANY (HUNDREDS of MILLIONS!) people call themselves 'Christians' while they are NOT BORN AGAIN and SAVED people!

Many persecuted 'Christians' only become saved just before they are KILLED, and others pretend to be Muslims too, in order to try to save their skins.

Many believers have this CRAZY IDEA that they HAVE TO become a MARTYR in order to be saved, while JESUS has already been the one and only true MARTYR!

We ALL deserve to be cast into the lake of fire, and we're saved by God's GRACE through FAITH ALONE.

There's NO WAY we can earn heaven, otherwise JESUS would have died IN VAIN.

Yes, it can happen that we become a MARTYR, but we don't NEED TO become one.

Study this and follow the links: MANY believers follow the WRONG GOSPEL

I call myself a JESUS Christian to make it clear that JESUS is my Savior and focus of my attention and WORSHIP.

The term 'Christian' was concocted by NON-FOLLOWERS OF JESUS/OUTSIDERS!

I am NOT better than other (saved) SINNERS: but I know (BELIEVE) for sure that I am SAVED=SAFE forever, thanks to God-the Lord JESUS!

I praise you and thank you JESUS, amen!

+Benjamin Brown Amen, brother. The excuse I normally get is "Jesus was only speaking to the Jews" in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, but this cannot be true considering a person doesn't have to be a jew to be a disciple of Christ. Simon (not Peter), for example was a canaanite. And Jesus says here in Mark 13.37 "And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." If Jesus was talking to His disciples and Christians are His disciples, then I believe we are not excluded from those chapters.

6:24 AM
Absolutely Feel Free to Correct me. It's been a while but I took some courses at a Bible College in Chicago called Moody Bible Institute. The three basic teachings were pre-trib mid-trib and post-trib. We were always taught pre-trib to be perfectly honest with you. But as I read, I found evidence that that's not necessarily the case. It was as if they found a small portion to grab onto and run with. Again it's been awhile so correct me if I'm wrong please.

+Hans S Nobody said anything about becoming a martyr to be saved. The pre-tribulation rapture cannot be backed up scripturally.. Period. So-called christians want to pick and choose which scriptures they like and discard the rest...

+FRED Hall III Amen! That is exactly right. They will pick one verse out and run with it... As you can see, I gave clear scriptures, but people will still deny them. They will continue to deny the Holy Spirit until they become reprobates.. Pre-tribbers are basically expecting a secret rapture before the great tribulation even though 1 Thessalonians 4.14-17 are clear scriptures talking about those who remain alive until the coming of the Lord and the catching away (rapture).

Hans S
6:49 AM
+It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
Have you become a Roman Catholic and an enemy of the Gospel of Grace and of JESUS Himself?

The pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture can be backed up by scripture, but if people are deceived by the Roman Catholic replacement theology lie, then they think that they have replaced the Jews as God's chosen people, which is a dirty lie.

Your stance is very disappointing, but (unfortunately) common among 'church-people', and most if not all 'churches' are infiltrated by JESUITS, and they influence true believers with Roman Catholic fallacies, because Satan loves to slaughter all born again, saved followers of JESUS.

Too bad for him, because the Body of Christ is not appointed to God's WRATH, and JESUS will rescue HER just before the start of the Time of Jacob's Trouble (the Great Tribulation) and Jacob is ISRAEL.

When you say "The pre-tribulation rapture cannot be backed up scripturally.. Period", I consider this as a DECLARATION of WAR!

Not on me, but on the TRUTH and JESUS is the TRUTH.

Daniel's 70th week is in the future, the NEAR FUTURE


Hans S
7:02 AM
I don't consider people who ATTACK the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture as my brothers and sisters.
They are people who try to EARN heaven and who TRY TO be RIGHTEOUS, while they (like all of us) deserve to ROT in HELL without God's GRACE in Christ JESUS!
I've been called a PIG by a so called 'sister' who attacks the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture and people who call me a PIG are NOT my brothers and sisters, but my enemies!

Goodbye and have a lot of fun while you're being BEHEADED by the minions of the Antichrist=the POPE of ROME.

Pre-Tribulation-Rapture Under Attack!

People who believe in the post-tribulation-rapture are like CATHOLICS!


MANY believers follow the WRONG GOSPEL


  1. +Anthony Pope
    When we are SAVED, we are SAFE, and the woman in Revelation 12 is NOT 'the church' but the REMNANT (one third) of ISRAEL (Zechariah 13:8-9).

    Another fallacy is the interpretation of the 1260 DAYS, which must be taken literally, because the PRE-TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE-RAPTURE/DEPARTURE is BIBLICAL and prophetically necessary, as the the Time of Jacob's (Jacob is ISRAEL, and OF COURSE not 'the church') will last SEVEN YEARS, being the 70th year-'week' of Daniel 9.

    Yes, it's possible to apply the 1260 as YEARS, instead of DAYS, concerning the history of the Vatican, because it is true that the Vatican ceased to be a combination of CHURCH and STATE in the year 1798 and resurrected from 'death' in the year 1929.
    But this interpretation is in fact OCCULT and based on the Roman Catholic REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY LIE, which states that 'the church' replaced God's chosen people the JEWS, which is EVIL and SATANIC!

    The JEWS never ceased to be God's chosen people!
    Of course Satan knew about this prophesy and he has arranged history in such a way so that the number 1260 would relate to YEARS concerning HIS VATICAN, because the Vatican is SATAN'S VERY OWN PROJECT!
    This was done because of his HATRED toward the JEWS, because of JESUS the JEW and JESUS is GOD and Satan's ENEMY!
    Only those who LOVE the JEWS, because of JESUS the JEW, are able to DECODE the prophetic word correctly!

    JESUS is coming back to ISRAEL, JERUSALEM and NOT to Rome, Washington, Moscow or Paris, Berlin or London, because Israel is God's FIRST LOVE and the REMNANT thereof will be His EARTHLY BRIDE, supplemented by those who'll become JESUS-followers AFTER the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture, and they will enter into the EARTLY KINGDOM of JESUS Christ, which will last 1000 years.

    The BODY OF CHRIST, which is the MYSTERY, will already be with JESUS during the Time of Jacob's Trouble (the Great Tribulation) and is the HEAVENLY BRIDE, and its members, who are CITIZENS of HEAVEN, will NEVER set foot on THIS EARTH AGAIN.
    They will MERGE with God's EARTHLY BRIDE after the 1000 years of peace on earth under the rule of KING JESUS and after the Final Judgement and they will live FOREVER on the BRAND NEW EARTH in a BRAND NEW UNIVERSE/HEAVEN and in the NEW JERUSALEM.
    THE PROPHETIC WORD concerning the END TIME is ALL ABOUT God's FIRST LOVE, ISRAEL and JESUS, the JEW, is God!

    (S)He who claims to be a follower of JESUS, is a follower of JESUS the JEW and such a person LOVES the JEWISH people.
    (S)He who DOES NOT love the Jewish people is NOT a follower of JESUS the JEW!!!!!
    Those who HATE God's chosen people, the JEWS/HEBREWS/ISRAELITES are followers of SATAN!!!!
    They will ALL be DESTROYED like INSECTS, by JESUS the JEW.
    Read Psalm 2!

    The Pope wil PRETEND to be the MESSIAH of the JEWS, on behalf of SATAN, hence he is so interested in JERUSALEM, and MANY JEWS (two third) will be FOOLED and they will accept the VATICAN'S MARK of the BEAST, and the (first) BEAST is indeed the POPE on behalf of LUCIFER the DEVIL.
    The SECOND BEAST SYSTEM is the USA and this will bring forth the FALSE PROPHET.
    The USA is the blueprint for the UNITES STATES of the WORLD, and this is in fact the UNITED NATIONS.
    I believe Obama will be this man, AFTER he has ended his 2nd term.
    This SATANIC CLOWN received the Nobel peace prize at the beginning of his presidency when he had done NOTHING yet!
    Of course this was arranged by the Vatican and SATAN!


  2. +Anthony Pope I proclaim with FORCE that the PAPACY/the POPE is the ANTICHRIST, and I believe and proclaim with FORCE that the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture is NOT a ROTTEN, DESPICABLE JESUIT LIE, but the BIBLICAL TRUTH, but only to those who believe in the RIGHT GOSPEL.

    What is the RIGHT GOSPEL?



    The Body of Christ started when JESUS saved *ME'.

    Too many believers in JESUS follow JESUS' instructions and warnings which are meant for HIS people the JEWS, and mainly those Jews who are/will be living in the LAND of ISRAEL.

    I mean, it's INCREDIBLE, but Adam1984 really believes that this is NOT a prophecy concerning the ONE THIRD REMNANT of the Jewish people in the LAND of Israel, but just a warning or a spiritual lesson for 'the church'???? MADNESS!!

    Zechariah 13:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
    8 And in all THE LAND, saith the *Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off, and die: but the third shall be left therein.
    9 And I will bring that third part through the fire, and will fine them as the silver is fined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my *Name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people, and they shall say, The *Lord is my God.

    *The Geneva Bible is an EXCELLENT translation and SUPERIOR to the KJV1611, but it's also NOT perfect.
    'Lord' should be translated with YHWH, but this is also NOT correct (the Jewish Bible writers were responsible for this concealment of God's name) because God told Moses His NAME and that's 'I am that I am', and in short 'I am'.
    The NAME of JESUS means 'I am salvation', so He's GOD in the capacity of SAVIOR.

    The problem are those people who were raised/BRAINWASHED in/through CHURCHES!

    JESUS did NOT start a 'church', but the LIVING ORGANISM, consisting of members of the MYSTERIOUS Body of Christ.

    Satan started CHURCHES=ORGANIZED CHRISTIANITY, so that he could control the MONEY, because the devil's power is MONEY!!

    That's why the Mark (SUN-day as day of rest, instead of the Sabbath) of the Beast (Papacy/the POPE) is so important to him, because it will give him a way to control the WHOLE world and EVERY INDIVIDUAL, except those who are able to SURVIVE without the need for MONEY.

    Satan introduced the word 'church' so that people would associate JESUS with BUILDINGS and RELIGION and NOT with God's LOVE through JESUS within the members of the Body of Christ, because the Holy Spirit is JESUS too, in spiritual capacity.

    So many people CANNOT COUNT!

    There's ONLY ONE GOD, yet they say there are THREE PERSONS within God.


    JESUS and GOD the FATHER are ONE.
    JESUS and the HOLY SPIRIT are ONE.

    Now, WHO is JESUS????


    Many people still follow ROMAN CATHOLIC doctrines and also the people of the Seventh Day Adventists, and it's a WELL KNOWN FACT that the leadership of the SDA cooperates with ROME!

    This goes for the leadership too of the Jehovah's witnesses and the Mormons.

    JESUS was/IS a JEW!!

    Many prophesies are still UNFULFILLED, and they are meant for ISRAEL and NOT for the Body of Christ (please STOP talking about 'the church').

    They will be fulfilled AFTER the rapture of the deceased and living members of the Body of Christ in the NEAR future.

    JESUS-YESHUA is coming back for His people and for those who will become believers in Him AFTER the rapture and His focus is ISRAEL and JERUSALEM.

    This is ALSO Satan's focus, because he knows that his WICKED rule over earth will end there at JESUS' 2nd coming, but he tries to THWART God's plans, because he is INSANE!
    His tools are the POPE and the other MORON, the False Prophet.

    I believe they have been IDENTIFIED (not yet revealed): the POPE and OBAMA.
    Obama will most likely become the head of the UN, and the UN was also founded by the VATICAN=the ROMAN EMPIRE.


  4. +Atheism is Madness
    We are FREE, so we may go to our assemblies on any given day of the week.

    But we do realize that it was Rome that made Sunday-worship MANDATORY throughout the centuries, AGAINST God's will, and it wants this power BACK to impose it on the whole world, and when this happens then the RELIGIOUS JEWS will know that it's against THEM, and then they'll know that the Pope is the ANTICHRIST and NOT the 'man of peace' he pretended to be, and the same goes for the False Prophet.

    The 7th Day Adventists think that's it about them, and they don't see that it's about the JEWS, because of JESUS the JEW.

    JESUS is the SOLE reason for Satan to hate ALL the JEWS, and of course also all worshipers of JESUS the JEW, the God of ISRAEL....OUR GOD.


    Atheism is Madness
    10:09 AM

    You simply don't understand the Gospel of grace through faith in Jesus Christ. The Law was to show our need for a Savior and works don't save because the only one who kept the Law perfectly was Jesus Christ

    2For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, andtheir thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

    Back to my original comment, we who are saved will be led by the Holy Spirit to love our lives according to those things which are written in our hearts and soul.
    I don't need a list of do's and don'ts and plan on cooking a large ham today to celebrate. I use to top it off with a case of beer but the spirit of God has revealed the drunkards wickedness so I quit some years ago. We can agree to disagree because my ham or going to your church building on SATURN day doesn't save. Jesus Christ saves and is the only way to salvation. Shalom

  5. +Victor Sias
    Only (spiritual) CHILDREN are able to understand, because they WANT TO be where JESUS is, because they LOVE Him so much!

    Victor Sias
    5:08 PM

    The church and Israel are two different groups of people. And there are different promises for both . The problem with the opinions of some made is that there is not enough biblical knowledge to understand that the pretribulation raptured is going to take place before the time of Jacob's trouble. And the Lord knows who they are . You can't use scripture and take it out of context to fit ones own opinion. Now all the Desciples were killed except John. Who do you think JESUS CHRIST was talking too ? There has always been Christian persecutings . But that doesn't change the fact that GOD has a group of believers that will be raptured before the tribulation period And it is all biblical that is known as the barley harvest . And none of this nonsense of somebody started the pretribulation rapture theory by this person or that person that is not biblical. The bible teaches a pretribulation rapture.

  6. +Victor Sias +Atheism is Madness +Anthony Pope
    The Body of Christ and its ASSEMBLIES are no longer mentioned AFTER revelation 3.

    Due to the ENORMOUS influence of the Roman Catholic CHURCH, the word 'church' was used by the translators of the Geneva Bible 1560-1599 and the King James Version 1611, while the right word should be ASSEMBLY.
    The Word English Bible (2002) has corrected this:

    Revelation 1:20 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
    20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks, is this, The seven stars are the Angels of the seven Churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest, are the seven Churches.

    Revelation 1:20 King James Version (KJV)
    20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

    Revelation 1:20 World English Bible (WEB)
    20 the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden lamp stands. The seven stars are the angels[a] of the seven assemblies. The seven lamp stands are seven assemblies.

    [a] Footnotes
    or, messengers (here and wherever angels are mentioned)


    I'm Dutch and in most Dutch translations the Dutch equivalent for the English word 'assembly' is being used, EXCEPT in the ROMAN CATHOLIC translation, because then the Dutch word for CHURCH (KERK) is being used!

    So this is proof to me that Satan wants people to associate a CONGREGATION or GATHERING of JESUS-worshipers with a SINISTER BUILDING, called a CHURCH.

    Why 'sinister'?

    Because a CHURCH TOWER with a peak is like an OCCULT obelisk and this is a Babylonian Phallus symbol!

    Many PROTESTANT churches are build this way!

    When I was an atheist I was NEVER attracted to these WEIRD and SINISTER BUILDINGS!

    But Satan wants people, and especially OUTSIDERS, to associate JESUS with such buildings, to make Him UNATTRACTIVE!

    This is why I strongly DISLIKE the word CHURCH in English, or KERK in Dutch.

    Yet so many people keep using this word DUE to the WRONG translation of the Greek word for ASSEMBLY, and DUE to the influence of CENTURIES of the OCCULT Roman Catholic church.

    Many people who are raised in 'CHURCHES' don't realize how REPULSIVE the word CHURCH is in the ears of many unbelievers.

    My first gathering with other JESUS-followers was at the HOME of the one who was the first JESUS-believer I dared to TRUST, after my surrender to JESUS on January 15, 1984.

    I still thought that most 'Christians' are WEIRD and NEUROTIC RELIGIOUS FREAKS.
    But for the first time I met people who REALLY were IN LOVE with JESUS and His WORD, and who were willing to ACCEPT me.

    I never have problems with BORN AGAIN people who really love JESUS according to the Gospel of Grace, but I always have problems with believers who still have ROMAN CATHOLIC tendencies in their way of thinking and theology, even if they claim to be BORN AGAIN too.

    And I always have problems with believers who don't love THE JEWS.
    JESUS is a JEW and He loves His OWN people, so we MUST love them too, or we don't know who JESUS is.
    Of course there are BAD JEWS, as there are BAD people among ALL peoples and tribes, but those who loves the Jews, because of JESUS, let God-the Lord JESUS deal with bad Jews.

    TWO THIRD of the Jewish people will ACCEPT the (Roman Catholic) MARK of the Beast, but ONE THIRD will REJECT this mark and they will be protected by JESUS HIMSELF in the desert.

    Many DECEIVED believers in JESUS, like the 7th Day Adventists, think that they will be protected during the coming GREAT Tribulation/Time Of Jacob's Trouble, because they have STOLEN the position of the JEWS!
    But they will NOT be protected and most of them will be beheaded.

  7. +Atheism is Madness
    Most people with WEIRD user names can't be trusted and I believe there are MANY TRAINED CIA- and JESUITS active on the internet on behalf of the Roman Catholic church in order to annoy true believers in JESUS.

    CIA means CATHOLIC Intelligence Agency!

    CIA people are TRAINED LIARS and JESUITS too.

    I don't waste my time on such FREAKS, because they don't WANT TO love JESUS and they don't WANT TO be HONEST.


    Atheism is Madness
    Yesterday 10:05 PM

    +Unleavened Karaite Plus Oh, so your a antisemite, and believe the church has replaced Israel. That's called replacement theology and from satan himself. Show me some verses right now deceiver that says Gentiles must not be Gentiles but be converted to Israel. We must be born again in the Spirit. I'm not going to rebuke you with my vain philosophy like you just did but instead leave you with crystal clear scripture AGAIN. Romans 11

    And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in hisgoodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.24For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

  8. +Atheism is Madness
    And the Antichrist has been identified: the Papacy/the Pope.
    People like Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye have kept us in the dark all these years, though they are RIGHT about the pre-tribulation-rapture.

    I started to discover that the Pope is the Antichrist thanks to people like Alan Lamont, and in his turn he was inspired by brother Eric Jon Phelps.
    I've also learned a lot from the renegade 'Remnant of God' 7th Day Adventists, because they are very aware of the Papacy and the Vatican as the source of evil, but I've always kept my distance concerning their unbliblical stance on the rapture, and that they in fact also believe that 'the church' (there is that word again) replaced God's chosen people, the Jews, and especially the Jews in the LAND of Israel.

    They can't explain why the IDENTIFIED Antichrist (the Pope) has not been ACTIVATED yet by Satan, and that's because they don't understand that the Holy Spirit is the RESTRAINER, and JESUS is the Holy Spirit too, because there is only ONE God.
    They don't see that this is done by JESUS so that there's still time for people to surrender to Him and to become part of the BLESSED Body of Christ, and to take part in the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture, and that it's also because JESUS is protecting HIS 'project' ISRAEL against Satan and HIS Papacy/the EVIL Vatican.

    Because they believe in the WRONG gospel (and I'm honest, because in the past I've also been deceived, because ALL 'evangelicals' are deceived), they can't see that the prophetic word is about JACOB=ISRAEL.
    +Victor Sias 

  9. +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife Don't you think I don't love you anymore, but your stance on the rapture is like being stabbed in the back.
    I forgive you, but I don't trust you anymore.

    People who believe what you believe have called me a SATANIST and WORSE!
    And yet they say they love JESUS...

    You have CHOSEN to be left behind.
    That's incredibly SAD.

    That's as if Enoch would say to God "please God, don't take me away from this EVIL world, because I still somehow like it here, and I believe I have to 'make it right with you through suffering for you'.

    That's Roman Catholic MARTYR-thinking!

    I'm prepared to DIE for JESUS, but when the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture will happen in the near future I won't say 'NO, THANKS' to God-the Lord JESUS.

  10. +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
    La'Teisha, we used to get along together so well in the past
    , and I know another sister from Texas of whom I can say the same, and she used to be so enthusiastic when I showed her that 'a falling away' is the WRONG translation of the Greek word 'apostasia' in 2 Thessalonians 2:3

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 World English Bible (WEB)
    3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction

    DEPARTURE is the right translation.

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition.

    DEPARTING is also the RIGHT translation.

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 King James Version (KJV)
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition

    A FALLING AWAY is the WRONG translation, while SEVEN English translations prior to the release of the King James version 1611, had the RIGHT translation of the GREEK word 'apostasia', which has nothing to do with the English word apostasy, because GREEK is a TOTALLY different language than English.

    At least one modern translation (the W.E.B.) corrected this by translating 'apostasia' into DEPARTURE.


    Why was this altered in the KJV 1611?

    Because King James didn't believe in the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture, because he cooperated with the VATICAN.

    Satan HATES the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture, wrongly called the 'pre-tribulation-rapture', because most CHURCH-PEOPLE have been raised with the SATANIC REPLACEMENT theology.

    Satan HATES the JEWS, because of JESUS the JEW.

    Many CHURCH PEOPLE don't believe that the JEWS are still God's chosen people and that the prophetic word is about THEM and NOT about the Body of Christ, wrongly called 'the church'.

    This is all due to the influence of the Roman Catholic church, the true church of Satan.

    And I've told you before that many JESUS-believers believe in the WRONG gospel, and they follow the instructions of JESUS to the JEWS concerning the Gospel of the KINGDOM, instead of following the instructions of PAUL (AUTHORIZED BY JESUS!) concerning the Gospel of GRACE.

    And so many believers think that 2nd chapter of Acts relates to them, while this relates to THE JEWS!
    Matthew 24 is also mainly meant for the JEWISH believers in JESUS.

    Anyone who says that what will happen after the rapture is NOT God's WRATH is not right in his her head!

    1. Immediately after the rapture the two witnesses will become active and what they will do on behalf of God-the Lord JESUS is pure HORROR:

      Revelation 11:6 King James Version (KJV)
      6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

      The whole world will HATE these two Jewish men!

      But this will only be a PART of God's TERRIBLE WRATH during this time.

      I sense in your stance toward me that no matter what I say, you already have drawn your unbiblical conclusions, because that's my experience with people who think and SAY that the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture is a false doctrine.

      To me they are spitting JESUS in His face!

      It's that bad.

      They're telling JESUS 'you have NOT done ENOUGH for me at the cross!"

      'Let me HELP you JESUS, and I'll become a MARTYR for you during the 'great tribulation', and then you can finally FORGIVE all MY SINS!".

      But the Body of Christ is not appointed to God's wrath! if you want a lot of Bible verses.

      Thank you for your support during the crisis after my ex told me she doesn't love me anymore and concerning 'jam', but I'm afraid you've come under the influence of people who teach a lot of NONSENSE concerning the prophetic word, because they don't make the right distinction between God's plans with the Body of Christ and God's plans with His chosen people Israel, simply because they don't believe that Israel is still God's chosen people, which is such a rotten lie.
      Hans S
      12:29 AM

      +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
      Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel
      Matthew McGee
      This article is divided into the following sections:
      The Old Testament Kingdom Program
      Jesus Christ's Earthly Ministry
      The Early Acts Period
      Paul's Ministry Begins
      Apostle of the Gentiles
      Mystery of the Gospel of Grace
      Understanding the Dispensations
      Peter's Gospel and Paul's Gospel
      Analogy of the Olive Tree
      Our Great Commission

      Read more:


      It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
      Yesterday 7:03 AM

      +Hans S You have not given a single scripture to actually prove there is a secret rapture, then the great tribulation, then the 2nd coming of the Lord and then I guess another rapture (according to what you all teach)... and now you are accusing me of becoming a Roman Catholic when I have quoted plenty of scriptures.. The great tribulation is not God's wrath so saying "the Body of Christ is not appointed to God's wrath" does not prove a secret, pre-trib rapture. Just make sure you can stand firm in your faith even if it means you have to die for Jesus. If mid and post-trib people are wrong, it will be a pleasant surprise for us... If pre-trib people are wrong, they will not be prepared to go through severe persecution for Christ and could fall away from the faith...

  11. +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife "If mid and post-trib people are wrong, it will be a pleasant surprise for us... If pre-trib people are wrong, they will not be prepared to go through severe persecution for Christ and could fall away from the faith..."

    I've heard this argument before, but don't you think that JESUS will reward your DISBELIEF in the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture, witch a swift evacuation to heaven, Enoch-style!!

    And MANY people who believed in the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture during their life on earth have been deceased, and many of them suffered PAIN before they died, but they knew that they will be resurrected from death at the MOMENT of the rapture, because they are members of the Body of Christ.

    Why should JESUS take people away from this world who call Him a LIAR?

    Because that's what they do when they assert that the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture is a FALSE DOCTRINE!

    Well, this so called 'FALSE DOCTRINE' was taught by the Apostle Paul ON BEHALF OF JESUS!!!!

    So you call both PAUL and JESUS LIARS!

    That is VERY GRAVE!

    I don't want to argue with you and I've given you enough information, and now fight it out with JESUS HIMSELF!

  12. +Benjamin Brown
    Yes,: just read the above again and follow the links.
    Do you LOVE JESUS and are you saved from going to hell/the lake of fire?


    Benjamin Brown
    1:29 AM

    +Hans S Do, you have Scripture to validate what you have said?
    This is a great conversation because this will allow me to increase my knowledge of the Scriptures and the truth therein

  13. +Benjamin Brown
    Yeah, why not?
    I'm an ex-atheist and I don't please people with a Christian-religious CHURCH background.

    My best friend, apart from JESUS, is a fellow ex-atheist who loves JESUS.
    People with a Christian-religious CHURCH background are very complicated people.
    To me it's as if they come from another universe.
    And I say this more than 32 years after my surrender to JESUS.

  14. JESUS is God and this is what He said concerning the RAPTURE:
    Luke 21:36 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    Watch therefore, and pray continually, that ye may be counted worthy to ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, and that ye may stand before the son of man.

    The Body of Christ is GONE after Revelation 3

    Revelation 3:22 World English Bible (WEB)
    22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies.”

    Revelation 4:1 World English Bible (WEB)
    4 After these things I looked and saw a door opened in heaven, and the first voice that I heard, like a trumpet speaking with me, was one saying, “Come up here, and I will show you the things which must happen after this.”

    Then it's no longer about the Body of Christ and its assemblies ('churches' in Catholic influenced translations), but about God's chosen people the Jews, and especially the Jews in Israel:

    Revelation 5:5 World English Bible (WEB)
    5 One of the elders said to me, “Don’t weep. Behold, the Lion who is of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome; he who opens the book and its seven seals.”

    JESUS is here called "the Lion who is of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David"

    The word JEW derives from the name Judah.

    Not all people who call themselves Jews are from the tribe of Judah, but God-the Lord JESUS knows exactly who they are and from which tribe they are.

    Why was I so interested in 'jam'?

    Because she's a mixture of north-Africa, India, China and the LEVITES.

    She had terrible fallacies, like the delusion
    she was the woman in Revelation 12!
    I sincerely hope that God-the Lord JESUS has healed her from this madness, because 'the woman' in Revelation 12 is Israel and particularly the remnant (one third) thereof.

    But she also believed in reincarnation!
    This is very serious and I think this was due to the Indian component in her soul, and the influence of her ancestors.
    I sincerely hope that God-the Lord JESUS has healed her from this madness, because reincarnation is very occult and also illogical, because we're all UNIQUE, so how can someone have been someone else in a previous existence, and in the raw form of reincarnation from India this can even be in the form of an ANIMAL...??

    Nonsense, but she really told someone else that she believed in reincarnation, which I discovered when I did my investigations.

    I can tell you that I've seen and spoken my ex on the 27th of April and it was a weird confrontation which she didn't expect, but JESUS was with me.
    I had one major question I wanted to ask her: do you still love JESUS?

    She answered with 'yes', but not very convincing and enthusiastically.

    She was together with a female friend, who is an UNBELIEVER, and this woman was quite hostile toward me, though she seemed to be friendly at first, but I'm always quick in establishing whether someone is saved or not and she is obviously not saved, so when I confronted her with that, the devil inside her got angry at me.
    I kept my calm.
    I told a brother about it and he said that he would have lost his temper and would have attacked that woman, even if it would mean jail-time, but JESUS was with me and I kept my calm.
    I know for sure she has been brainwashed, and this is what this brother also told me, because I made a video of this initial confrontation, which I showed him.
    She's in no way the woman I know so well during our 30+ years relationship.

    1. I know a sister here on Google+ and who's about the same age as my ex, and when the pain about my split with my ex was still strong, I shared my story with her and she immediately said 'she's in darkness'.

      I believe she's right, and I've seen it with my own eyes.

      But I don't blame her and I'm glad she's not saying 'I don't want to have anything to do with JESUS anymore' or something like that, and I was able to ask her a few more questions, like 'do you hate me?'.
      She said 'I don't hate anybody', but then I knew she was LYING, because that's exactly what she does, and shortly thereafter she stood up and walked away from me, leaving me with this friend of her, who became even more angry at me, because I told her she's on Satan's side, and mind you, this was in a crowd of many people on our national holiday, which is the birthday of the King of the Netherlands.
      JESUS was with me and I kept my calm and then I left the scene, shaking my head, so to speak, while I was sharing everything with JESUS.

      Why am I telling you this?

      Because it's on topic, because I testify of my INTIMATE relationship with JESUS, which helped me to control myself.

      I could have SCREAMED, I could have been VIOLENT....but no.....I was like JESUS.

      My ex walked away and she lost her 'cool'.
      And not for the first time.

      'jam' does the same and that's why she has blocked me again.

      Both my ex and 'jam' aren't mature enough to be able to talk to me, and now I'm testing you: are you still willing to listen to me, because age-wise I could have been your father?

      But I want to be your BROTHER and I don't want you to suffer during the coming Time of Jacob's Trouble.

      Again: after Revelation 3, the Body of Christ will be GONE to where JESUS is:

      Revelation 4:4 World English Bible (WEB)
      4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones. On the thrones were twenty-four elders sitting, dressed in white garments, with crowns of gold on their heads.

      ELDERS? YES elders of the Body of Christ!
      24 MALE REPRESENTATIVES of the Heavenly Bride, the Body of Christ.


      Learn this from JESUS: there are TWO gospels; Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel

      Our spiritual leader is the Apostle Paul, authorized by JESUS!

      So we INDIRECTLY follow JESUS through Paul!

      This has been a REVELATION to me last year, thanks to my contact with sister +JoyceBelieves InJesusChrist (hi Joyce!).
      She has had the same revelation a little bit earlier than me, and she was stunned, because most of what she had learned in the past through 'churchianity' could be cast into the trash can.

      You know I don't have a Christian-religious background, but even a person like me has been DECEIVED through WRONG teachings from so called evangelical people coming forth from traditional 'churches'.

      My ex has a Christian-religious (Dutch reformed) background and this is ONE reason for our split, because she doesn't understand me anymore.
      That's because she's still tied to certain aspects of churchianity, and she even had a 'Christ-mass tree' again in her house last December, while in the recent past she SEEMED to agree with me that this is PAGAN and Roman Catholic.

      I've learned this concerning Roman Catholicism: give the devil one finger and he'll take the whole hand!

      A little bit of Roman Catholicism can lead to becoming a lukewarm follower of JESUS, and JESUS doesn't like lukewarm people:

      Revelation 3:16 World English Bible (WEB)
      16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of my mouth.

      I will vomit you out of my mouth.

      SISTER, don't let JESUS have to tell you this!!!

      ONLY REAL FANATICS for JESUS will take part in the rapture.

    2. Why should JESUS snatch away lukewarm people?

      That's the whole purpose of the WARNINGS and ENCOURAGEMENTS of Revelation 2 and 3 by JESUS HIMSELF concerning the BODY OF CHRIST.

      I don't hear you say 'LORD JESUS I WANT TO BE WITH YOU!!!!!'



      That's why you believe you need some extra chastisement during the coming Great Tribulation.

      You call yourself +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife ....then BE His WIFE and TALK ABOUT Him and not just about 'God'.

      God is not a NAME!

      God's name is JESUS, meaning 'I AM SALVATION'!

      I AM GOD WHO WANTS TO RESCUE YOU, BECAUSE I LOVE YOU and I don't want to PUNISH YOU, because you believe that I DIED FOR YOU as if I were the WORST CRIMINAL IN HISTORY!

      That's how you can also look at His name.

      'jam' I want you as my SISTER IN JESUS.
      SHAKE OFF ROMAN CATHOLIC INFLUENCES and follow JESUS as the people in the assembly of Philadelphia:

      Revelation 3:8-13 World English Bible (WEB)
      8 “I know your works (behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one can shut), that you have a little power, and kept my word, and didn’t deny my name. 9 Behold, I give some of the synagogue of Satan, of those who say they are Jews, and they are not, but lie. Behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. 10 Because you kept my command to endure, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, which is to come on the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11 I am coming quickly! Hold firmly that which you have, so that no one takes your crown. 12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name. 13 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies.


      And this goes for you too, +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife !

  15. It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife:

    +Hans S You call Jesus a liar, so get yourself together
    ... You have ignored every chapter in the Bible about the end times. Until you quote a scripture that proves the only rapture is before the tribulation, you can stop commenting on my posts about it..

    1 Thessalonians 4.15-18

    "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

    This is the rapture... Plain and simple...
    +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
    La'Teisha, LaTeisha, is this really what JESUS wants?
    Satan LOVES it when JESUS-worshipers HATE each other.
    Hate equals MURDER.
    Well I don't hate you at all!
    I'm responding this way, so you're not able to delete my thoughts, but of course you're free to BLOCK me and I assure you that Google+YouTube is on your side when you decide to do so.

    You say that I call JESUS a liar and I've said you call JESUS and Paul liars in case you assert that the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture is a false doctrine.

    But you're not talking about pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture, but about The pre-tribulation rapture.

    That's because you don't see how important JACOB=ISRAEL is to JESUS.

    Do you think it's a coincidence that JESUS will come back to JERUSALEM, ISRAEL?

    You assert that I "have ignored every chapter in the Bible about the end times".


    I'm longer an adherent of the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture-teaching than that you exist in this world, but yet you assert I know nothing about it.

    So I'm DUMB and you are SMART?

    I am an UNWISE virgin and you are a WISE virgin?

    You don't take me serious anymore, so I leave it up to God-the Lord JESUS.

    You're not able to make me SAD, because you haven't created me and you didn't die for me on the cross, and I LOVE JESUS, no matter what you or anyone else say about me.

    For those who want to know more about the rapture:

    Daniel's 70th week is in the future, the NEAR FUTURE

    The Believer's Superglue - 26:49 the RAPTURE = the DEPARTURE

    Pastor James Knox The New Testament Church IS NOT The Nation of Israel Part 2

    The Pre Tribulation Rapture is the only truth, Re-Posted

    The Purpose of the Tribulation

    Jacob Prasch - The Rapture, like a thief in the night

    1. Tribulation Period = Seven Years by Dough Stauffer


      Case Closed - Evidence For Pre Trib Rapture

      Satan's Attack on The Mystery Gospel

      Les Feldick - Why We Stand On a Pre Trib Rapture

      +It's Ya Girl, Jesus' Wife
      I pray that the Lord JESUS will open your eyes.

  16. +CanWeTalk Yes, and what about my other questions?
    I'm an INVESTIGATOR and I get my information from all kinds of sources and I eat the fish and leave the bones.

    I believe the 7th Day Adventists are right about the Mark of the Beast and they are wrong on the rapture and other things.
    They are also right about the identity of the Antichrist: the PAPACY/the Pope.
    I'm not associated to any kind of religious entity, because I'm a saved member of the world wide Body of Christ JESUS.
    JESUS is my commander in chief, and the Apostle Paul is my teacher on behalf of JESUS.
    Paul has revealed to us the GOSPEL OF GRACE, and the MYSTERIOUS Body of Christ.
    I believe this MYSTERY started when JESUS saved Paul:
    Hans S
    2:50 PM

    +SpotterVideo MANY believers follow the WRONG GOSPEL
    Show your face and reveal your first name and I'll have more respect for you.

  17. MORE PROOF! Pre-Tribulation Rapture, 24 Elders Revelation 5 - John Niemela
    The better term is the pre-Time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture, because there has been tribulation for the Body of Christ since its beginning, and because the period after the rapture is about JACOB=ISRAEL.

    Revelation 5:9-10 King James Version (KJV)
    9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed US to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
    10 And hast made US unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

    Revelation 5:9-10 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
    9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof, because thou wast killed, and hast redeemed US to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation.
    10 And hast made US unto our God Kings, and Priests, and we shall reign on the earth.

    This is AFTER the rapture, when the 24 elders of the BODY OF CHRIST will be in heaven with the Lord JESUS!

  18. +Victor Sias Jr. Hi brother, and we are not correct from ourselves, but the Word of God is always correct, because JESUS is that Word:
    John 1:1-3 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    1 In the beginning was that Word, and that Word was with God, and that Word was God.

    2 This same was in the beginning with God.

    3 All things were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made.

    I'm a sinner, saved by the GIFT of God's undeserved GRACE through faith in the atoning blood of JESUS.

    Thanks for your comment!


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