Friday, May 11, 2018

TO HELL WITH 'ETERNAL TORMENT'??

TO HELL WITH "ETERNAL TORMENT"


Published on Apr 11, 2018


 
You have my curiosity peaked so I am going to study this out and get back with you. Even if at the end we still don’t agree can we disagree politely because I don’t see this as an essential. To me an essential is the gospel of Jesus Christ that He died for our sins, buried and rose again three days later all according to the scriptures.
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You have the right attitude. First we need to study the other side of an argument BEFORE we start refuting it. Then if we never agree...THAT IS OK BECAUSE THIS SUBJECT IS NOT AN ESSENTIAL.
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The subject IS an essential!
Calling it not essential is not understanding WHAT we are as human beings in this reality between heaven and hell, and then we don't acknowledge from WHAT horrific FATE JESUS has saved us.
Death was created by God and it's a SEPARATION from Him and 'the second death' is an ETERNAL SEPARATION from God in FULL AWARENESS WHY this has been decided by Him, and that's because of the following:

It's about eternal EXISTENCE and we're all meant to be like the angels, and angels exist forever, because they're spiritual beings with supernatural bodies.
So after the fall of the angel who used to be called 'morning star', or 'light bearer' (Lucifer in Latin), or 'son of the dawn', and after God called him 'adversary=Satan' and 'devil'='liar, deceiver, slanderer, accuser' and after this rebellious angel managed to deceive one third of the angels, who also became fallen angels, God had a PROBLEM.
What to do with creatures who are meant to exist FOREVER?
Angels CANNOT repent=change their minds and regret their former thoughts and actions under normal=heavenly  circumstances, but they CAN repent if they're cast into a HORRIFIC PLACE, called the lake of fire, God's eternal DETENTION CENTER.
And so God created the lake of SUPERNATURAL FIRE, in which Satan and the fallen angels and condemned humans will FOREVER confess that JESUS is LORD, because JESUS is GOD!
God needed to create creatures who are half angelic and half LIKE animals to prove He's RIGHT, and so He created MAN, but AFTER He had created the ANIMALS, and His SECRET PLAN was to become a sinless human being Himself which he foretold in CRYPTIC LANGUAGE in  Genesis 3:15 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

15 I will also put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed. He shall break thine head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

God told Satan, disguised as the Serpent, that he would 'bruise the heel of the seed of Eve', which is the bloody crucifixion of God in the capacity of JESUS by the satanic, Babylonian Roman Empire, and that JESUS in the capacity of GOD would 'break his head' by perfectly fulfilling the prophecies that relate to his suffering, his death and his resurrection in HIS land of Israel.
Of course Satan didn't know what God was talking about, because all these things had yet to happen in the future, and Satan already knew that he couldn't be FORGIVEN, so he assumed that NO ONE can or should be forgiven, and this has to do with his SICK and TWISTED god-complex.
Satan knows NO MERCY.
Our God is a MERCIFUL GOD=JESUS!
Can God FORGIVE PERFECTLY MADE angels who had rebelled against Him?
NO! This is TECHNICALLY IMPOSSIBLE because angels who have DECIDED to go against Him have reprogrammed their minds and this can't be undone, because they're spiritual beings, having a free will.
Can God FORGIVE creatures with limited free will because of their instinct = their pre-programmed biological program, who are disobedient, because they're creatures without the ability to reason: ANIMALS?
YES!
Can God FORGIVE fallen half angelic, half animal-like creatures with a free will, called HUMANS who BELIEVE that God came on earth in the capacity of JESUS Christ who shed His innocent and atoning BLOOD as if He were a SINLESS ANIMAL, the LAMB of GOD, who was dead and buried and who rose on the third day, according to the scriptures?
YES HE CAN, because God in the capacity of JESUS said  in Luke 23:34
"Father, forgive them: for they know not what they do" as if He was talking about ANIMALS!
So is there a reason to assume that there's NOT a place called the lake of fire, and is there a reason to assume it's not eternal?
No!
Why not?
Because we're meant to exist FOREVER and God had to SOLVE this problem of having to cope with rebellious angels and humans, and this is His solution, because God doesn't want to spend His eternity with creatures who DON'T LOVE Him!
Thank God for the creation of ANIMALS https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/03/thank-god-for-creation-of-animals.html
Hell-Lake of Fire http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/search/label/Hell-Lake%20of%20Fire




6 comments:

  1. Renee,
    Yes, God's mercy endures forever for those who are saved from being eternally SEPARATED from God-the Lord JESUS.

    The subject IS an essential!
    Calling it not essential is not understanding WHAT we are as human beings in this reality between heaven and hell, and then we don't acknowledge from WHAT horrific FATE JESUS has saved us.
    Death was created by God and it's a SEPARATION from Him and 'the second death' is an ETERNAL SEPARATION from God in FULL AWARENESS WHY this has been decided by Him, and that's because of the following:

    It's about eternal EXISTENCE and we're all meant to be like the angels, and angels exist forever, because they're spiritual beings with supernatural bodies.
    So after the fall of the angel who used to be called 'morning star', or 'light bearer' (Lucifer in Latin), or 'son of the dawn', and after God called him 'adversary=Satan' and 'devil'='liar, deceiver, slanderer, accuser' and after this rebellious angel managed to deceive one third of the angels, who also became fallen angels, God had a PROBLEM.
    What to do with creatures who are meant to exist FOREVER?
    Angels CANNOT repent=change their minds and regret their former thoughts and actions under normal=heavenly circumstances, but they CAN repent if they're cast into a HORRIFIC PLACE, called the lake of fire, God's eternal DETENTION CENTER.
    And so God created the lake of SUPERNATURAL FIRE, in which Satan and the fallen angels and condemned humans will FOREVER confess that JESUS is LORD, because JESUS is GOD!
    God needed to create creatures who are half angelic and half LIKE animals to prove He's RIGHT, and so He created MAN, but AFTER He had created the ANIMALS, and His SECRET PLAN was to become a sinless human being Himself which he foretold in CRYPTIC LANGUAGE in Genesis 3:15 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    15 I will also put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed. He shall break thine head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

    God told Satan, disguised as the Serpent, that he would 'bruise the heel of the seed of Eve', which is the bloody crucifixion of God in the capacity of JESUS by the satanic, Babylonian Roman Empire, and that JESUS in the capacity of GOD would 'break his head' by perfectly fulfilling the prophecies that relate to his suffering, his death and his resurrection in HIS land of Israel.
    Of course Satan didn't know what God was talking about, because all these things had yet to happen in the future, and Satan already knew that he couldn't be FORGIVEN, so he assumed that NO ONE can or should be forgiven, and this has to do with his SICK and TWISTED god-complex.
    Satan knows NO MERCY.
    Our God is a MERCIFUL GOD=JESUS!
    Can God FORGIVE PERFECTLY MADE angels who had rebelled against Him?
    NO! This is TECHNICALLY IMPOSSIBLE because angels who have DECIDED to go against Him have reprogrammed their minds and this can't be undone, because they're spiritual beings, having a free will.
    Can God FORGIVE creatures with limited free will because of their instinct = their pre-programmed biological program, who are disobedient, because they're creatures without the ability to reason: ANIMALS?
    YES!

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    1. Can God FORGIVE fallen half angelic, half animal-like creatures with a free will, called HUMANS who BELIEVE that God came on earth in the capacity of JESUS Christ who shed His innocent and atoning BLOOD as if He were a SINLESS ANIMAL, the LAMB of GOD, who was dead and buried and who rose on the third day, according to the scriptures?
      YES HE CAN, because God in the capacity of JESUS said in Luke 23:34
      "Father, forgive them: for they know not what they do" as if He was talking about ANIMALS!
      So is there a reason to assume that there's NOT a place called the lake of fire, and is there a reason to assume it's not eternal?
      No!
      Why not?
      Because we're meant to exist FOREVER and God had to SOLVE this problem of having to cope with rebellious angels and humans, and this is His solution, because God doesn't want to spend His eternity with creatures who DON'T LOVE Him!
      Thank God for the creation of ANIMALS https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/03/thank-god-for-creation-of-animals.html

      Hell-Lake of Fire http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/search/label/Hell-Lake%20of%20Fire

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      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland
      2 weeks ago
      Love your title. I get no grace while studying this even tho we r told to take the full counsel of God. We r saved from it no matter what it is..isnt thats whats important? His mercy endures forever

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  2. Are we eternally saved from being cast into an eternal lake of fire in full awareness and forever in order to realize WHY, or are we eternally saved from being annihilated and destroyed into NOTHING? Here's my answer: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2018/05/to-hell-with-eternal-torment.html

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  3. +Michael o'donnell No, threats of eternal torture, BEFORE you die!

    I'm going to BURN in HELL! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/search/label/Hell-Lake%20of%20Fire

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    Michael o'donnell
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    Threats of torture after you die?
    Worthless.
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    Chris Yau
    The dead will have their mouths shut until the day of judgement.
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    James Roberts53
    Hell is the grave

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  4. If you don't want to burn forever, being a resurrected, ANGELIC human being AFTER this existence between heaven and hell, then get saved by JESUS and by His gospel that saves FOREVER: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE

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  5. With all due respect, Is the Lords supper for the Body of Christ today? http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/10/is-lords-supper-for-body-of-christ-today.html
    When we get water baptized in this time of God's dispensation of grace, all we get is wet! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/11/when-we-get-water-baptized-in-this-time.html
    We are united through our MUTUAL LOVE for JESUS and His teachings through His Apostle Paul.
    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE

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