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Departure ( Rapture ) Comes First, Man of Sin Revealed - 2 Thessalonians 2:3

The KJV 1611 is DEAD WRONG concerning 2 Thessalonians 2:3

Departure ( Rapture ) Comes First, Man of Sin Revealed - 2 Thessalonians 2:3



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2 Thessalonians 2:3 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)


Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition.


2 Thessalonians 2:3 World English Bible (WEB)

Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction


departing in the Geneva Bible 1599... 

departure in the World English Bible....

In most cases the words departing or departure from the Greek word 'apostasia' refer to LEAVING or GOING AWAY, and in this context it is NOT concerning a 'departure from FAITH' of born again and saved believers in JESUS which will result in 'a falling away' (from faith, according to the KJV 1611), which is NONSENSE, but it's referring to their BODIES, MINDS AND SOULS that are going to LEAVE this earth at the moment of the (pre-Jacob's Trouble) RAPTURE!

Romans 8:23 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)


23 And not only the creature, but we also which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we do sigh in ourselves, waiting for the adoption, even the redemption of our body.

1 Corinthians 15:50-56 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)


50 This say I, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I show you a secret thing, We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet: for the trumpet shall blow, and the dead shall be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption: and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible hath put on incorruption, and this mortal hath put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying, that is written, Death is swallowed up into victory.

55 O death where is thy sting? O grave where is thy victory?

56 The sting of death is sin: and the strength of sin is the Law.



The GLORIOUS DEPARTURE!

 

Brother Robert Breaker is a great teacher concerning the gospel of grace and related subjects, but like so many he believes the King James Bible is the ONLY reliable Bible in English, while the Geneva Bible 1560-1599 came FIRST and it's in most cases superior to the KJV, and it was the first 'American Bible', printed in large quantities, also in my country, the Netherlands.

 IGNORE the footnotes and especially concerning 2 Thessalonians 2:3

Nevertheless I recommend his teachings and most certainly these:

 

 

How to Get Saved

 

 

 

The KING JESUS Bible 

 

23 comments:

  1. The belief in the pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture isn't about salvation: the gospel of grace, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is: https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE
    My Blessed Hope - The Rapture https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/4X2kb7JGJkZ

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  2. +Lee Weber People who deny the pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture (pre trib rapture) are in most cases not saved according to the Gospel Of Grace, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE

    And in most cases they don't know about this: Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/MmpWC84Doho

    And about this: plus.google.com - Ephesians 2:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV) 13 But now in Christ Jesus, ye which... https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/1nNSEnTHeEr

    The book of Revelation is for the Jews:

    Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation. The entire book of Revelation, including chapters 1-3, is deeply rooted in Old Testament prophecy. It is doctrinally aligned with the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude, all of whom were apostles of the circumcision, as well as to the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, and the Old Testament. The dispensation of grace in which we now live is revealed in Romans through Philemon, our Apostle Paul's letters to the Gentiles, with Acts being the book of transition between the two dispensations.

    Source: http://www.matthewmcgee.org/7church.html

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    1. +Lee Weber Yes, I know this argument and I used to believe in it too in the past, but now I believe the ENTIRE book of Revelation is not meant for the members of the Body of Christ, and the above quote opened my eyes.

      "The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation."

      The belief in the pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture TRUTH is NOT about salvation, and the same goes for the FLAT EARTH TRUTH.

      What's really important is to believe in The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER! https://plus.google.com/106087908907898703754/posts/CQXGSTN4RUn

      And to know this too: ROMANS thru PHILEMON https://romansthruphilemon.wordpress.com/

      And OF COURSE the rapture is still our Blessed Hope https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/4X2kb7JGJkZ

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      Lee Weber
      Revelation Chapter 3 talks about the rapture too and nobody realizes that

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    2. +Lee Weber Yes, and I've read this great comment, to which I responded:

      Grace Gospel Evangelism
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viy-XTGgh5A&lc=UgzjsnA33O4aDAaTjld4AaABAg
      Many silly people think that the lukewarm means sinful Christians, but they miss the whole point.... The scenario, in metaphor would be likened to this bro. Hot would be Grace, Cold would be works, and the lukewarm is the mixing of the two, which would be worthy of being spewed out.... I bid;

      Romans 11:6: And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
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      Hans S
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viy-XTGgh5A&lc=UgzjsnA33O4aDAaTjld4AaABAg.8ccUBHl7p-w8cdrIyU67e2
      AMEN!
      I will VOMIT you out of my mouth! This is NOT concerning the Body of Christ https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/search?q=Vomit

      What's your real first (German) name?

      Hans is from the Greek-Germanic Johannes is from the Hebrew Yochanan, meaning 'I AM is merciful' and 'I AM (that I AM) is God = JESUS, which means 'I AM SALVATION'.

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      Lee Weber
      Seen my video? ;)

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    1. Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation. The entire book of Revelation, including chapters 1-3, is deeply rooted in Old Testament prophecy. It is doctrinally aligned with the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude, all of whom were apostles of the circumcision, as well as to the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, and the Old Testament. The dispensation of grace in which we now live is revealed in Romans through Philemon, our Apostle Paul's letters to the Gentiles, with Acts being the book of transition between the two dispensations.

      Source: http://www.matthewmcgee.org/7church.html

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    2. ROMANS thru PHILEMON https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/PZR5GqzCkRa

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    1. Date setting is WRONG!

      Telling unsaved people the gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, is MUCH better!
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      Brian J
      Brian J
      27 minutes ago
      Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone!
      Hans S
      Hans S
      18 seconds ago
      @Brian J JESUS is without sin and He's not going to tell ANYONE when the rapture will happen or else Satan will also know.
      The Rapture will be a BIG SURPRISE to Satan!

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      : https://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2017/09/departure-rapture-comes-first-man-of.html?showComment=1568667449946#c220758840163748284

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    3. @tassili zinzla Of course you don't believe in the pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture because you're not saved and you believe in the wrong gospel and you don't believe that JESUS is God, so 'your jesus' can't save anyone.
      JESUS is GOD:
      Isaiah 9:6 1599 Geneva Bible
      6 For unto us a child is born, and unto us a Son is given: and the government is upon his shoulder, and he shall call his name, Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The prince of peace.
      GOT THAT?
      This is about JESUS CHRIST!
      2 Thessalonians 2:3 1599 Geneva Bible
      3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition.
      'departing' is the RAPTURE!
      You won't read this in the masonic KJV!
      The KJV (King James was a Freemason) changed it into this:
      2 Thessalonians 2:3 Authorized (King James) Version
      3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
      'a falling away' is the WRONG translation of the Greek word 'apostasia' and it doesn't make sense.
      Get saved by the Gospel 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

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      Richard Lafave
      Richard Lafave
      1 day ago
      The Rapture this week sounds good to me! Lord take us away ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ™
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      Sheryl Draper
      Sheryl Draper
      1 day ago
      Richard Lafave I agree, that would be awesome, God Bless you brother
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      Debbie Bruno
      Debbie Bruno
      1 day ago
      Amen to that!!! :0)
      9
      Enrico.v
      Enrico.v
      18 hours ago
      Anytime i'm in
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      tassili zinzla
      tassili zinzla
      11 hours ago
      keep waiting rapture is big hoax
      Tommy Rose
      Tommy Rose
      10 hours ago
      tassili zinzla ๐Ÿ˜‚ I pray for you. You won’t be saying that, when that sky crack open
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      Richard Lafave
      Richard Lafave
      10 hours ago
      @tassili zinzla I hope you know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
      tassili zinzla
      tassili zinzla
      10 hours ago
      @Richard Lafave
      1st- i know jesus better then you
      2nd- show us from your book where jesus he said im god or worship me
      3rd- where in your book he said iam savior , the guy he could save himself from bunch of jews
      tassili zinzla
      tassili zinzla
      10 hours ago
      @Tommy Rose
      i dont need your pray we will see the day of judgment when jesus will say to christians go way from i dont know you I wonder why
      Richard Lafave
      Richard Lafave
      10 hours ago
      @tassili zinzla 1st base 2nd base 3rd base Rapture home plate!!!! Praise Jesus Christ ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ™Œ ๐Ÿ™Œ people don't strike out know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
      tassili zinzla
      tassili zinzla
      9 hours ago
      @Richard Lafave
      the word rapture dont exist in all bibles
      i praise who created jesus not man
      where in your book he said i am god or savior
      Richard Lafave
      Richard Lafave
      9 hours ago
      @tassili zinzla if you know me then you know my Farther.
      tassili zinzla
      tassili zinzla
      9 hours ago (edited)
      @Richard Lafave
      my father is greater than me , my father is greater than all ,i can not do anything from myself what i hear i said
      Richard Lafave
      Richard Lafave
      9 hours ago
      @tassili zinzla My Farther is the Farther of Abraham Isaac and Jacob! All glory to God.....
      tassili zinzla
      tassili zinzla
      9 hours ago
      @Richard Lafave






      Why would god die as a man in order to forgive us !! Are we talking about any drama series ?? If you check the old drama/play- scripts, you will find similar kind of stories ! Blind faith won't take you to heaven, it might take you to Hell! you need to ask questions. When you pray, ask questions to god why god came down as a human, what was the purpose? He could have forgiven the human race from up there, what's the point of doing this drama !! Is it us who actually wrote this script ?
      Jacob Pendl
      Jacob Pendl
      7 hours ago

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    4. Barry, we're not living in the days of Noah
      :
      Matthew 24:37 1599 Geneva Bible
      But as the days of Noah were, so likewise shall the coming of the Son of man be.
      Matthew 24 is for the Jews, AFTER the rapture.
      Look up on the net: Israel's Kingdom Gospel and Our Grace Gospel

      9/11 was an inside job, on behalf of the Vatican and the Jesuits and Satan.
      14 May 1948 is a secular date because the STATE of Israel is a project of the Vatican and the Vatican is the Luciferian Roman Empire.
      Netanyahu cooperates with the Pope, and the Pope is the disguised Luciferian Roman Emperor and the Antichrist by default.
      Trump is a fake Republican and he also cooperates with the Vatican.
      The members of the Body of Christ shouldn't be focused on signs, because signs are for the JEWS.
      We should be focused on telling others the Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
      We still have a lot of freedom because the Holy Spirit=JESUS in spiritual capacity is RESTRAINING the devil and the Antichrist.
      The devil is totally IGNORANT about the date and moment of the rapture.
      ONLY JESUS knows when the rapture will happen and He won't share this secret with anyone or else the devil will also know.
      Climate change is a HOAX.
      The earth is flat and JESUS isn't dead!
      Anyone who is SAVED according to the Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is ALWAYS rapture ready even while being ASLEEP or DECEASED.
      Noah's Ark is broken in two and on top of Mount Ararat.

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    5. Anyone who is saved according to FAITH
      in The Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is ALWAYS rapture ready, even while being asleep or deceased.
      We should abide our time by telling others how to get saved and to encourage each other about the rapture:
      1 Thessalonians 4: 15-18 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
      15 For this say we unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which live, and are remaining in the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them which sleep.
      16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, and with the voice of the Archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
      17 Then shall we which live and remain, be caught up with them also in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      18 Wherefore, comfort yourselves one another with these words.

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      Kim Mosley
      Kim Mosley
      1 day ago
      God bless you brother Barry!! Yes I believe we could be gathered unto Jesus any day now....looking up!! If it's a lil while longer, then we get more time to occupy and be planting seeds in truth!!
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      Richard Andrews
      Richard Andrews
      1 day ago
      Amen Kim I hope you and Alex and the dogs are well
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      Kim Mosley
      Kim Mosley
      1 day ago
      @Richard Andrews doing alright my brother!! The heat is still hanging on here and makes my health issues worse, but I so appreciate you and your prayers ๐Ÿค—thanks for checking on us!!
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      nic c
      nic c
      1 day ago
      Hey sis! The sun has finally come out here today and I got the washing dried hehehe, its the small things in life. Love you and praying constantly for you and Alex and Hannahs little paw!
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      Kim Mosley
      Kim Mosley
      1 day ago
      @nic c oh sis!! Praise Jesus!! Prayers for you too in Spain and all our brethren looking at the world now and seeing the truth that Jesus told us ahead of time for now!!
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      nic c
      nic c
      1 day ago
      @Kim Mosley love you sis, thanks.
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      Kim Mosley
      Kim Mosley
      1 day ago
      @she den I know Jesus and He knows me, and He is the truth!! Don't worry about me friend, He is my Lord!!
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      Karen Starr
      Karen Starr
      1 day ago
      Kim Mosley Amen

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    6. Matthew 24 is for the Jews and not for the members of the Body of Christ
      .

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      Delene Williams
      Delene Williams
      1 day ago
      Matthew 24:37-39 as the days of Noah. Well if they pass the Naohide laws, we will be under law and not Grace. I say we leave before then. I'm soooo ready.
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    7. @tassili zinzla So we're already in tribulation?
      ...THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN TRIBULATION since the start of the Body of Christ and before that since Jews started to believe that YESHUA=JESUS is their MESSIAH-CHRIST, but we're NOT YET in the GREAT tribulation, aka the TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE, which is in the first place for JACOB=ISRAEL.
      The Time of Jacob's Trouble (Jeremiah 30:7) is NOT meant for the members of the BODY OF CHRIST, because the Body of Christ is not appointed to God's WRATH!
      1 Thessalonians 5:9 1599 Geneva Bible
      For God hath not appointed us unto wrath, but to obtain salvation by the means of our Lord Jesus Christ.
      Again: you're NOT saved and here's how to get saved FOREVER....take it or leave it:
      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER from burning forever in the lake of fire, and having been saved through this GOSPEL also makes one RAPTURE-READY!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible
      1 Moreover brethren, I declare unto you THE GOSPEL which I preached unto you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,
      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, IF ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.
      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how^ that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,
      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      ^through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Romans 5:9 1599 Geneva Bible
      Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

      Ephesians 1:7 Geneva Bible
      By whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins, according to his rich grace

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible
      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,
      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible
      13 In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

      2 Corinthians 1:22 1599 Geneva Bible
      Who hath also sealed us, and hath given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

      JESUS promised us EVERLASTING LIFE:
      John 3:16 1599 Geneva Bible
      16 For God so loveth the world, that he hath given his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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      tassili zinzla
      tassili zinzla
      2 hours ago
      @Hans S


      1st- we are already in tribulation


      2nd-when you put your feet inside the paradise than you can say i am save otherwise you living on dream and no heaven for christians according to your book
      It's ironic how Christians constantly repeat the following nonsense: "If you believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins, and that he is your savior, then you will go to Heaven."
      "Many will say to me (Jesus) on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 7:22-23)"



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    8. These verses clearly prove that believing in Jesus as the "Savior" who died on the cross for our sins may not necessarily really save us, hence this refutes the nonsense that the Christian missionaries keep repeating, because they themselves may not be saved and are going to Hell without even knowing it.



      Let us look at further verses from the Bible that prove that most Christians are going to Hell:



      Adultery is prohibited in the Bible, and that's perfectly fine with me:



      Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."



      Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."



      Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.



      But here comes the part that will cause most Christians of today to go to Hell:



      Matthew 19:9 "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."



      Mark 10:11 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her."



      Mark 10:12 "And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."



      Luke 16:18 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery."



      Since adultery is clearly prohibited in the Bible, and since most Western Christians today are divorced and are either living with their boyfriends/girlfriends or married to other people, wouldn't that cause for them to be thrown in Hell? After all, most Western Christians according to the Bible are committing adultery!



      So to all of you divorced (except for marital unfaithfulness) Christians out there, YOU ARE ALL GOING TO HELL!
      Why do I think that adultery in the Bible would cause a person to go to Hell? Read the following:
      Let us look at further verses from the Bible that prove that most Christians are going to Hell:



      "If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 5:29)"



      , I can appreciate putting laws against sexual sinning and adultery. But the above verse is quite ironic! It clearly states that if any Christian (including our missionary friends) sins, even by looking at another human being lustfully, he/she better get rid of the body part that sinned instead of suffering the Eternal torture of Hell.



      Come on now! To all of you Christian men and women out there, including your priests and ministers (who on many occasions end up raping and child molesting), how many times did you "masturbate"?! Oh well, I hate to break the bad news to you, but YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL ACCORDING TO YOUR BIBLE!

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    9. A Christian got so freaked out from the above verse, that he decided to slice off his penis.


      3rd- all gospels are not identicals no one .


      4th-Jesus god where did you read that show me from your book he said i am god or worship me?


      5th-he could not save himself from bunch of jews how he will save you ?


      6th-Isaiah 9:6 1599
      Let us read the Verses: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God (EL Gibor), The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with justice and righteousness from hence forth even forever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. (Isaiah 9:6-7)"


      It is quite unfortunate that in the old Jewish culture, people used to be named "Godly" names. This is quite misleading and deceiving to Christians when they try to define the deity of Jesus.



      Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods" (Elohim; plural to El); you are all sons of the Most High.' " "gods" here in Hebrew is "Elohim", which is plural of "EL". It is the same exact thing as "EL" used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6, since "gods" is a combination of several "EL"s. And as clearly shown here, for someone to be called "god" or "God" in the Bible it wouldn't make him GOD Almighty Himself, the LORD or Jehovah. I also want to point out that any "Son of GOD" in the Bible is a "god" or "God".


      The Doubting Thomas:



      Doubting Thomas said "My Lord and my God" to Jesus. Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:



      Moses was called "The God" (Exodus 7:1) of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh. Jesus said he was greater than Moses. Thomas, the Disciple, called Jesus "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28). Jesus denied to be GOD Almighty. All Believers were called "GODS and Sons of GOD" (Psalm 82:6) in the Bible. "GOD" in the Bible also means master, leader, priest. Therefore, the doubting Thomas' statement didn't suggest that Jesus was his Creator. And Jesus being a "God" doesn't mean that he is GOD Almighty. He is just another mere "God" like the rest of the believing creations and nothing more.





      The Bible also says that Jesus had to be "in according to Melchizedek". And who is Melchizedek? According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20). Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.




      7th-who are Thessalonians and Corinthians the is not words of Jesus the is Paul or Saul bounty hunter of Jesus disciples man who never met Jesus the real anti-christ he is the founder of christianity man who contradict all the commandments of God .

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    10. @Delene Williams I'm totally not worried about it, because the pre-JACOB'S TROUBLE-rapture will change everything.
      We have to know what is meant for us and what not:
      Rightly dividing the Word is the goal of this article, and it is an indispensable key to proper understanding of the Bible. The abundance of scriptural evidence detailed in the third section makes it very clear that Revelation is doctrine for Israel, which was written to Jews who believed in Jesus Christ, by an apostle of the circumcision, for direct application in the prophetic "kingdom" dispensation. At the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, God placed that dispensation in abeyance in 70 AD, to be resumed in the future tribulation.

      The entire book of Revelation, including chapters 1-3, is deeply rooted in Old Testament prophecy. It is doctrinally aligned with the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude, all of whom were apostles of the circumcision, as well as to the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, and the Old Testament.

      The dispensation of grace in which we now live is revealed in Romans through Philemon, our Apostle Paul's letters to the Gentiles, with Acts being the book of transition between the two dispensations.

      Source: http://www.matthewmcgee.org/7church.html

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      Delene Williams
      Delene Williams
      1 day ago
      Matthew 24:37-39 as the days of Noah. Well if they pass the Naohide laws, we will be under law and not Grace. I say we leave before then. I'm soooo ready.
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      Hans S
      Hans S
      12 hours ago
      Matthew 24 is for the Jews and not for the members of the Body of Christ.
      Delene Williams
      Delene Williams
      5 hours ago
      @Hans S That is true. And the disciples asked Jesus 3 questions about the end times. And he answered them in Matthew 24 - He tells them what will be happening at the end. If they pass the Noahide laws, the Grace period ends, well the body of Christ is only during the Grace period. And when studying on the Noahide law you will see the Sandhiderns say it is for the gentiles. The very first law is have no other Gods. Well when you worship Jesus it is idolatry, and it is death by guillotine. We are to pay attention to what he says.

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    11. @Delene Williams That's why I read the entire Bible from the perspective of Paul
      =of JESUS what He revealed to Paul for the saved members of the Body of Christ, which is Romans through Philemon.

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      Delene Williams
      Delene Williams
      1 hour ago
      @Hans S I believe that the true church will leave before the trib. But those that are left behind no matter who you are will go through the things in Revelations. We as Christians should know what is to happen so we can make sure that those we know will be left will have understanding if they don't change what they will go through. I believe that if God didn't want us to know all that we can from all his word, then the Bible would not have so many books. Matthew 4:4: is for ALL PEOPLE. Even Jesus himself quoted it to satan from the book of Deuteronomy 8:3. When studying on what Paul writes to the gentiles, Paul takes us back to the old testament, back to the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, he even takes us to the book of Revelation. If we are to be Christ like (Philip 2:5-11) We need to understand who Jesus is and what he said. (John 3:16) is to ALL PEOPLE. So i take All of the Bible personal as the true word of God for all.

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    12. @jeff ouellette Romans 7:24-25 1599 Geneva Bible

      24 O wretched man that I am, who shall deliver me from the body of this death!
      25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Then I myself in my mind serve the Law of God, but in my flesh the law of sin.
      Isaiah 64:6 1599 Geneva Bible
      But we have all been as an unclean thing, and all our righteousness is as filthy cloths, and we all do fade like a leaf, and our iniquities like the wind have taken us away.
      1 John 1:8 1599 Geneva Bible
      If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and truth is not in us.
      Only DEAD people don't sin, and the ONLY sinless human being was JESUS when He was on earth.
      'This grace' is the ONLY way out!
      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible
      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,
      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.
      Of course JESUS is GOD!
      Only God can forgive sin(s) or condemn people who don't want to accept His UNDESERVED GIFT of GRACE through FAITH alone in His BLOOD that was shed for the REMISSION of our SINS and His RESURRECTION from the dead.
      Sinners who try to EARN salvation and who believe they can LOSE their salvation are NOT saved.

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      jeff ouellette
      jeff ouellette
      3 hours ago
      @Delene Williams Jesus is God. So it's ok to worship Him.
      jeff ouellette
      jeff ouellette
      2 hours ago
      @Hans S if we are Living in sin than we or wicked. You guys blow this grace out of proportion.

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