Friday, January 11, 2019

'Hey, if you wanna go to heaven, this is the way!' - Paul's Message

Paul's Message


Robert Breaker
Published on Jan 10, 2019
Sermon for Sunday, January 13, 2019. This is the 222nd sermon preached in English on thecloudchurch.org, by Missionary Evangelist Robert Breaker, in which he shows from the Bible the message of Paul, and how that message was given to him by Jesus Christ, and it is the message of salvation for us today!









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11 comments:

  1. fcastellanos57
    "Producing fruit is a work we need to do"
    Or else?

    PUNISHMENT?
    God will UNSEAL us and make us UNSAVED again?
    And WHO is the FRUIT INSPECTOR?
    YOU?
    Satan?
    The POPE?
    JESUS Himself, saying 'hey, you don't have fruit, so I'm going to cast you out into the outer darkness and after that I'm going to torture you in my lake of fire, because I love to see people BURN who do not 100% DO as I say'?
    JESUS (not me) said THROUGH HIS Apostle Paul the following:
    Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.
    And AFTER we ARE saved verse 10 comes into effect:
    Ephesians 2:10 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV) 10 For we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath ordained, that we should walk in them.
    So as we can see it's GOD'S RESPONSIBILITY and LEADERSHIP that we produce FRUIT, because we have become HIS!!!!! workmanship CREATED in CHRIST JESUS!
    A BAD FATHER who teaches his children to become CRIMINALS like himself will produce CRIMINALS and a GOOD FATHER = GOD-the LORD JESUS teaches His children to become LIKE His Apostle Paul, because that's why He gave us Paul as a fellow SAVED SINNER to be our EXAMPLE.
    Please watch this video:
    'Hey, if you wanna go to heaven, this is the way!' - Paul's Message http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2019/01/hey-if-you-wanna-go-to-heaven-this-is.html



    PS: Google-YouTube made a MESS of the comment section and nowadays I have to EDIT ALL of my comments....

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    fcastellanos57
    fcastellanos576 hours ago (edited)
    Renee,
    I understand that the Jews received the message first by Jesus, but what he says should apply to gentiles too. Like the parable of the talents. I think you are also interpreting being thrown out to the outer darkness and gnashing of teeth out of context. Remember Jesus says this same phrase in the parable of the talents, in the parable of the person who did not have the wedding garments, and some others. Take note that all those people in those parables have accepted a contract or an invitation, but some of them did not do something, the one with 2 talents did not do anything with them but put them into the ground, the man with the wrong wedding clothes, which represent righteousness, did not have it. We are not talking about being saved from Gehenna but we are talking about not growing in righteousness, God is expecting us to produce Fruit of righteousness. No, this is not only to the Jews, this applies to all of us. Paul talked about something similar when he says your works will be proven by fire, you still be saved or not destroyed in Gehenna, but you will be going throw suffering or as through fire, Jesus says, those who know what they should do and don’t do it will receive more punishment than those who do not know what they should have done and did not do it. Salvation is not so black and white as people understand it.
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    wtom04
    wtom047 hours ago
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    fcastellanos57 Your comment - "Salvation is not so black and white as people understand it."

    My comment - Scripture clearly teaches that salvation IS as clear as day and night. John 5:24 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is PASSED FROM DEATH UNTO LIFE.

    Eternal rewards can be forfeited, but not eternal life. To say that salvation is not so black and white is to imply that it can be lost or was never there to begin with. Is that what you're implying?
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    1. fcastellanos577 hours ago (edited)
      wtom04
      My point is that salvation is not just getting in, when you get in you enter life however, there is growth that follows, so those who just think that they are ok because the say a prayer are mistaken. Paul said, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
      wtom04
      wtom046 hours ago
      @fcastellanos57 In the context of Philippians 2:12 Paul was concerned about their spiritual well being in HIS ABSENCE. Paul wanted the Corinthians and the Philippians to be just as fired up in the faith in his ABSENCE. So in both passages Paul is NOT saying, "Examine yourselves to see if you're saved" nor is he saying "work for" your salvation with fear and trembling." The Corinthians and the Philippians were ALREADY SAVED.


      Philippians 2:12 - Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more IN MY ABSENCE, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

      This same principle is taught in 2 Corinthians 13:5 . 2 Corinthians 13:5 is not teaching for Christians to "examine themselves" to see if they're saved, but to see if they are in FELLOWSHIP in the faith. Paul didn't want for them to be slacking off and "missing in action" or in a state of spiritual atrophy and stagnancy in his ABSENCE.

      2 Corinthians 13:2 indicates that Paul was concerned about the Corinthian's spiritual well being in his ABSENCE and wanted to them to be fired up in their faith in spite of his ABSENCE.

      2 Corinthians 13:2 - " I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being ABSENT now .........."

      2 Corinthians 13:10 explains what was on the apostle Paul's mind.

      2 Corinthians 13:10 - Therefore I write these things BEING ABSENT, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction.

      The surrounding verses give the CONTEXT of what Paul is saying.
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      fcastellanos576 hours ago (edited)
      wtom04
      Well if you think you don’t have to do anything I disagree with you. Producing fruit is a work we need to do. I think you are confusing salvation with sanctification. We need to grow, I am not talking about salvation from God’s wrath to destroy those who do not accept his terms, but salvation is not enough, we need to grow. Furthermore, the prove of our salvation is the Fruit of righteousness we should produce, if we don’t have it then we should question it.
      Renee Roland
      Renee Roland6 hours ago (edited)
      Thanks for commenting. Jesus earthly ministry was specifics toward Israel n its y he mentions Abraham issac n jacob or isrsel. Those names would have had no meaning to the gentiles
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      wtom046 hours ago
      @fcastellanos57 The thief on the cross in Luke 23:42-43 did not work out his salvation with works. Discipleship is not imperative for the free gift of salvation. The example of the demon possessed man that Jesus healed in Mark 5:18-20 and Luke 8:38-39 is worth considering:

      Mark 5:18-20 - 18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil PRAYED HIM THAT HE MIGHT BE WITH HIM.

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    2. 19 HOWBEIT JESUS SUFFERED HIM NOT, but saith unto him, GO HOME to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee. 20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.


      The man who was demon possessed and healed by Jesus obviously wanted to follow Jesus as Lord as the context of verse 18 clearly indicates, BUT Jesus told him "NO", but that he should go home and tell his family and friends how God has been gracious to him.


      This same account is recorded in Luke 8:38-39: 38 Now the man out of whom the devils were departed BESOUGHT HIM THAT HE MIGHT BE WITH HIM, BUT JESUS SENT HIM AWAY, saying, 39 RETURN TO THINE OWN HOUSE, and shew how great things God hath done unto thee. And he went his way, and published throughout the whole city how great things Jesus had done unto him.



      From these 2 accounts, it is obvious that this healed man who is no doubt SAVED WANTED TO FOLLOW JESUS AND BE HIS DISCIPLE AND MAKE HIM LORD, BUT Jesus said "NO", thus debunking Lordship Salvation.

      Lordship Salvation people will no doubt despise those who believe in faith alone apart from works by attacking and calling us names, "easy believism", "cheap grace", "intellectual assenters", etc. I have encountered some Lordship Salvation heretics who went so far as saying that the demon possessed man was healed by Jesus, but not saved by Jesus. However, common sense dictates that if a person was possessed by many demons which would no doubt make the person's life an utter living hell, but then one day the person encounters Jesus, the Son of God who has mercy on him by casting out all those demons freeing him from bondage that the person will no doubt believe in Jesus and be saved.
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      wtom046 hours ago
      @fcastellanos57 I agree that we SHOULD grow and produce fruit, but those things are not imperative for the free gift of eternal life. They are not "MUST DO" or "AUTOMATICALLY WILL DO". There are many saved Christians that are lazy, but that does not negate the fact that they're still saved. If they remain in that state of spiritual atrophy and stagnancy over a prolonged period of time, then that will incur God's CHASTISEMENT upon them as a wake up call, but they are still saved. The proof of our salvation is NOT in the fruits that we produce, but the proof of our salvation is in whom we have BELIEVE IN. There are many people within mainstream Christianity that exhibit the fruits of the Spirit and fruits of righteousness such as devout Roman Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentacostals, Calvinists, Arminians, etc, BUT are not saved.

      Why? Because they ALL have a bogus "Jesus" that front loads/back loads the gospel with works making it a damning gospel. Did you know that fruits of the Spirit such as love, joy, peace, patience, endurance, longsuffering, kindness, etc, and fruits of righteousness can be seen in people like philanthropists, humanitarianists, Buddhists, Yoga practitioners, some martial artists, the Boys/Girls Scouts of America and even among some atheists. These people can sometimes exist side by side with saved Christians who don't exhibit those attributes.

      I have in my backyard 3 fruit trees. I have a lemon tree that is currently bearing much ripe and mature lemons, but in previous years it bore nothing. I have a peach tree that always bears immature peaches about the size of a ping pong ball and its been like that for years, and finally I have an Asian fruit tree that bore much mature and ripe fruit this year.


      I've had that Asian fruit tree for over 20 years, but for the first 16 years it bore no fruit at all. Finally, at the 17th year it started to bear fruit and has been bearing fruit since. It would be incorrect to conclude that since my Asian fruit tree bore no fruit during those 16 years that it was not a fruit tree.



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    3. Now, despite the erratic fruit bearing patterns of my 3 fruit trees in bearing fruit, that in no way negates the fact that they are still fruit trees. The same is true of Christians. Some Christians bear much fruit, some bear little fruit, and some bear no fruit at all during their walk with God, but that in no way negates the fact that they are saved and possessing eternal life. “Fruit” and “works” are not an accurate indicator of whether one is saved or not.


      You also need to take into consideration the fact that many saved Christians go through periods of CRISIS. Death of a dearly loved one, disease, divorce, depression, unemployment, financial loss, etc, and it is during those times of crisis that a saved Christian may bear little or no fruit at all, but they are still saved. It would be wrong and self-righteous to conclude that they are "unsaved."

      When my mother died I was severely depressed for 2 years and during those 2 years I bore no fruit at all and did not put forth any good works. A person with a Lordship Salvation mindset will no doubt dismiss me as "unsaved."
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      wtom046 hours ago
      @fcastellanos57 A person can be saved TODAY by believing on the finished work of Christ on the cross and tomorrow be involved in a tragic car accident that leaves the person permanently paralyzed full body for the rest of his life where he cannot do or show any good works and where the doctor says there is no chance for recovery. The person's spouse may decide to leave him because of that and the paralyzed person may even get very angry and discouraged and curse God and denounce his faith and die in that state of mind, but guess what? The person is still eternally saved despite his discouragement and apostasy.


      Faith without works does not mean a person is "unsaved", but that the person is LAZY and in a state of spiritual atrophy/stagnancy. James 2:14-26 is an exhortation for all saved Christians to put their faith into action. The Bible says that eternal life is a FREE GIFT - Romans 6:23. Good works are a SHOULD DO, but they are not automatic because man has free will to obey/disobey, to be faithful/unfaithful, to be obedient/disobedient. The whole point of James 2:14 is PROFIT. James 2:15-16 gives the context of what is being said in James 2:14. A saved Christian who does not put his faith into ACTION will not save him from appearing cold and insensitive in the eyes of those who are in need - James 2:15-16. It will also not save him from God's chastisement for being lazy and inactive in the faith. James 2:14 entails these implications.

      A man can have a complete weight set and weight bench in his possession as a gift from someone, but how will that weight set and bench PROFIT his physique and muscles if he never works out? The weight set/weight bench is in his possession, but he won't lose it if he never works out.

      The same principle applies to James 2:14-26. James is saying that there are 2 types of justification:

      1) JUSTIFICATION BEFORE GOD is by faith alone in Christ alone APART from works - Romans 3:20, Romans 3:28, Romans 4:2-6, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 10:4, Romans 11:6, Galatians 2:16, Galatians 2:21, Galatians 3:6, Galatians 5:4, Titus 3:5.


      2) JUSTIFICATION BEFORE PEOPLE is by our works because people cannot visually see our faith - 2 Corinthians 8:21, Matthew 5:16, 1 John 3:17-18.
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    4. fcastellanos576 hours ago (edited)
      wtom04
      I understand what you are saying, you know the passage in James that says faith without works is dead, the works there is what I am talking about, this is not salvation, but those fruits will need to happen otherwise how can you know you are a christian? Remember the demons also believe, so believe is not the prove or our faith, the same that the only way to know a good tree from a bad one is by their fruit.
      fcastellanos57
      fcastellanos575 hours ago
      Renee Roland
      Even though his ministry started with the Israelites, most of what he says applies to all of us. The saying of Jesus are not included in the letters from Paul but that does not mean they are not applicable to all believers. The gospels after all along with the rest of the new testament has been preserved for all of us not just for the Jews at the time of Jesus. What he said to Nicodemus, the words of the sermon on the mount definitely applies to all believers not just Jews. We have to read with discernment.
      wtom04
      wtom0416 hours ago
      @fcastellanos57 Your understanding of Scriptures is tainted with traces of Lordship Salvation, which is works salvation. You agree that James 2:14-26 is not talking about salvation, but then you insist that fruits need to happen as evidence of salvation. Then you say that "belief is not the proof of our faith", and that the "same that the only way to know a good tree from a bad one is by their fruit."

      If you think logically, if belief, that is, the object of our faith is not the proof of our salvation, then it logically follows that it must be OUR WORKS. Then you add your comment about a good tree and bad tree is known by it's fruit.

      "Fruit" in the context of Matthew 7:15-20 is talking in reference to the FALSE DOCTRINES of FALSE TEACHERS. "Fruit" in Matthew 7 is not referring to works.

      Christ did not die for demons, but He died for all humanity providing a way out of eternal condemnation, which is a free gift.

      You appear to be trusting in your works and the visible presence of works as "evidence" of salvation, but not the finished work of Christ on the cross.

      Many in the Lordship Salvation camp utterly fail to take into consideration that there are periods in saved Christian's lives where they go through CRISIS. Death of a loved one, divorce, disease, depression, unemployment, financial loss, etc, and it is during those times of crisis that a saved Christian will bear little or no works at all, but are still saved and possessing eternal life.
      Many saved Christians who go through crisis may get discouraged, disillusioned, angry, etc, and not exhibit fruits of the Spirit and some may even fall away from the faith, turning their backs on God, BUT they are still saved.
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      awaken4Jesus15 hours ago
      @wtom04 very nice post about the fruit trees, etc...
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      awaken4Jesus15 hours ago
      I also wanted to just add this in for consideration: to whom was James writing?
      James 1:1
      [1]James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:514 hours ago
      @awaken4Jesus James was writing to Christian (sheep) Jews who were "scattered" abroad. "smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered:" Zech 13:7
      awaken4Jesus
      awaken4Jesus12 hours ago
      @Belief is not a work Romans 4:5 is that why it says to the 12 tribes?
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      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:510 hours ago
      @awaken4Jesus Yes... The book of James is thought to be the first new testament book written. Before Paul's ministry to the gentiles really took off. So, it is thought that James was addressing Christian Jews specifically. The sheep were "scattered" abroad after Jesus was crucified. https://www.biblestudytools.com/resources/guide-to-bible-study/order-books-new-testament.html
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    5. wtom04
      I want you to understand clearly what I am saying. I am not promoting a work base salvation like the Catholics do. Because salvation is a free gift, however faith and repentance are necessary and this are not works that replace grace. I would like to know how you define salvation?, Again, we are an investment to God, He has purchase us for a costly price and He wants to see and outcome from that investment and the outcome He wants to see if a life of righteousness. We are involved in obtaining this righteousness by our obedience to keep ourselves in the narrow way, we do not create this capacity for righteousness , it is given to us by the Holy Spirit, but we must grow in it. Read what Jesus says about him being the vine and we being the branches, as long as we abide in Him we produce fruit and the Father receives glory when we produce fruit, and like Jesus said, without me you can’t do nothing. So God has to give us what we need but He gives it to those who obey his commands.
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:510 hours ago
      @fcastellanos57 wtom04 is right... you are a lordship salvationist. Hopefully you can learn a lot from Renee's channel. Are you new here? There is NO assurance in you "gospel" message. If producing fruit is something that must take place in a believer's life, then how much? And what exactly is the fruit that would prove one is saved? You say you believe salvation is free, but you really don't mean it in your heart. You are what is called a "fruit inspector." You believe the "no fruit no root gospel" which is a false gospel. You say free, but you really mean earned. If a saved person "will" have the fruit, then they MUST have the fruit. You are putting the burden of salvation right back on the believer not the savior.
      Nyanda Bundu
      Nyanda Bundu3 hours ago
      fcastellanos57 WE ARE SAVED BY THE OBEDIENCE OF ONE NOT TWO. Yes God does want us to live right but not to get or keep salvation. You say that you don’t believe like the Catholics do but you sound just like them.

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    6. fcastellanos57
      Are you SAVED by God's UNDESERVED GIFT of GRACE through FAITH ALONE
      in
      the BLOOD of JESUS that was shed for our SINS and His resurrection from
      the dead according to THE GOSPEL?

      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER from burning forever in the lake of fire!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

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      Moreover brethren, I declare unto you THE GOSPEL which I preached unto
      you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, IF ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how^ that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      ^through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

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      In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth,
      even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed,
      ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

      More: https://plus.google.com/u/0/106087908907898703754/posts/AbEj8nQJ1S6

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/EcUrVE

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      fcastellanos57
      fcastellanos5724 minutes ago
      Nyanda Bundu
      Again, I have not said that to be born again you need to do works, but if you are sinning, you will not get in, this is not an addition to salvation, there has to be repentance. So no, I do not believe like Catholics that are works before being born again have a value to God but again, how do you understand the passage, if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off, for it is better for you to enter life without a foot than to be cast with both feet in Gehenna. God is not asking for perfection obviously, but he is asking for repentance and this means stop doing evil and come to him. If you still think all you need is to believe and do nothing with your life you are mistaken.
      fcastellanos57
      fcastellanos5721 minutes ago
      Hans S
      Yes God make us grow but we have to abide in him, abiding in him is to obey his teachings. Why is the road to life hard? Because it requires us to resist our evil and selfish tendencies else we are not going to grow much.
      fcastellanos57
      fcastellanos5717 minutes ago
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      You can read about the fruit of the spirit in Gal 5:22 “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,” this is not salvation since whoever is born again cannot be unborn but the growth is a result of our obedience. Don’t confuse salvation with sanctification, both are given by God and not of us but we are involved in the sanctification process.

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    7. fcastellanos57
      Produce some FRUIT by answering my question
      :
      Are you SAVED by God's UNDESERVED GIFT of GRACE through FAITH ALONE in
      the BLOOD of JESUS that was shed for our SINS and His resurrection from
      the dead according to THE GOSPEL?

      The Gospel that SAVES FOREVER from burning forever in the lake of fire!

      1 Corinthians 15:1-4 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      1
      Moreover brethren, I declare unto you THE GOSPEL which I preached unto
      you, which ye have also received, and wherein ye continue,

      2 And whereby ye ARE saved, IF ye keep in memory, after what manner I preached it unto you, except ye have believed in vain.

      3 For first of all, I delivered unto you that which I received, how^ that Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures,

      4 And that he was buried, and that he arose the third day, according to the Scriptures

      ^through the shed BLOOD of JESUS!

      Ephesians 2:8-9 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

      8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God,

      9 Not of works, lest any man should boast himself.

      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

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      In whom also ye have trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth,
      even the Gospel of your salvation, wherein also after that ye believed,
      ye were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise

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      fcastellanos57
      fcastellanos572 hours ago
      wtom04
      Obviously the thief on the cross could not show any righteousness from the Holy Spirit since he did not have any time but the righteousness from God was given to him. We on the other hand must grow in righteousness not for salvation but for sanctification. God demands we are perfected like He is perfect, even Jesus said that. Just saying I am saved is not enough, we are considered righteous become of Jesus but we have to become righteous not just positionally but in reality by our obedience to Jesus and his command of Love one another.
      fcastellanos57
      fcastellanos572 hours ago
      wtom04
      Why do we have to label people? You say Lordship salvation as if they are different from any other christian. We all know we enter into a relationship with the Lord by faith only, if you have faith you should have repented, remember Jesus said, not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven but he who does the will of my father who is in heaven. So it is not just by saying I believe and you are done. God demands repentance, the gate is narrow, it is not easy to enter because it require us to accept our guilt before God can accept us.
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:51 hour ago
      @fcastellanos57 you are simply wrong. A non believer can also show love, peace, faithfulness, gentleness, etc. That doesn't prove they are saved. You just don't get it because you are a Lordship salvationist. You say salvation is free, but you add to what free means. Free means free! Free doesn't mean free PLUS fruit production.

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    8. Nyanda Bundu
      AMEN!
      ONCE SEALED, ALWAYS SEALED!

      THANK U JESUS!
      Hans S
      Hans S5 minutes ago (edited)
      fcastellanos57

      If you believe that you can become UNSAVED and UNSEALED again, then you're NOT saved and SEALED in the first place.
      You need to BELIEVE the following:
      Ephesians 1:13 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

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      In whom also ye have TRUSTED, after that ye heard the word of truth,
      even the Gospel of YOUR SALVATION, wherein also after that ye BELIEVED,
      ye were SEALED with THE HOLY SPIRIT of promise.
      The HOLY SPIRIT = JESUS in spiritual capacity!

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      Nyanda Bundu
      Nyanda Bundu2 hours ago
      Hans S Amen brother!
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      fcastellanos57
      fcastellanos571 hour ago
      Belief is not a work Romans 4:5
      Again, God gives us salvation and God gives us righteousness. We have none of these. No if a non believer can also show real love, faith, patience and so on then there is not need for us to be connected to the Lord to obtain these fruits. The point of us bearing fruit is essential to the Father, if we could do it without being born again then Jesus died in vain. Humanly speaking, those traits are human traits that are very conditional and full of strings attached, they cannot come from within in an unbeliever. You need to study why it is important to produce the Fruit of the Spirit and that this can only happen in someone who has been born again. So yes, Jesus need to be my Lord otherwise I am not His. Salvation makes you be subjected to the Lord, are you saying you can be saved without the Lordship of Jesus? Again, salvation is not just getting in, there is work to be done.
      fcastellanos57
      fcastellanos571 hour ago (edited)
      Hans S yes of course, but this is just the beginning, read and think about the parable of the talents, God expects us to grow in grace and Love otherwise He will take away what He gave you when you believed.
      Nyanda Bundu
      Nyanda Bundu58 minutes ago
      fcastellanos57 He’s not going to take anything away, salvation is a free gift... a gift without repentance... You keep repeating the same nonsense like we don’t get what you are saying... it’s not scriptural.
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      Renee Roland32 minutes ago
      @fcastellanos57 we will talk more on this buddy but watch my book of James videos n faith without works is dead netc. Type my name and James n videos should come up. I think you'll agree w meaning and context. GOD bless you

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